Zarathustra[H]
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Might have to pick one of these up. Now ill need a nice new hard gaming surface to use it on
It's a shame the Ratpadz are no longer on the market
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Might have to pick one of these up. Now ill need a nice new hard gaming surface to use it on
It felt immediately familiar holding it for the first time. My only disappointment is it seems it's using the same mousewheel from 15 years ago. It's also around 10g lighter than the original MX518. I thought it wouldn't be noticeable, but it is. Don't know how I feel about that, yet. Still, the shape is more than enough for me to ditch the G502. I'll have to play with the mouse settings and see if I can get practical use out of the full 16K DPI.Please let us know how you like it! (not that I have to wait long to find out how I like mine mmyself or anything, but...)
I'm going to test mine. If I like it, I'll keep it at home. If I don't, I'll bring it to work. Even if I don't like it for gaming, it will certainly be better than this M310 wireless POS they gave me, which judging by recent news is probably vulnerable to some sort of script injection...
It felt immediately familiar holding it for the first time. My only disappointment is it seems it's using the same mousewheel from 15 years ago. It's also around 10g lighter than the original MX518. I thought it wouldn't be noticeable, but it is. Don't know how I feel about that, yet. Still, the shape is more than enough for me to ditch the G502. I'll have to play with the mouse settings and see if I can get practical use out of the full 16K DPI.
The way this thing is put together I'd be afraid of breaking it trying to crack it open. I don't even see a practical space to squeeze my tool in.Hmm. That's disappointing. I like HEAVY mice, but the trend over the last 10 years has been to make them lighter and lighter.
Maybe you can crack open the case and hotglue a lead fishing sinker in there
I might actually try this if I am unhappy with the weight. With that big bulbous plastic body, there has to be some empty space in there.
It felt immediately familiar holding it for the first time. My only disappointment is it seems it's using the same mousewheel from 15 years ago. It's also around 10g lighter than the original MX518. I thought it wouldn't be noticeable, but it is. Don't know how I feel about that, yet. Still, the shape is more than enough for me to ditch the G502. I'll have to play with the mouse settings and see if I can get practical use out of the full 16K DPI.
I don't even see a practical space to squeeze my tool in.
The way this thing is put together I'd be afraid of breaking it trying to crack it open. I don't even see a practical space to squeeze my tool in.
Probably, but those things are on there pretty good. They're more like "pads" than "feet:" There is one large half-moon pad on the front and back and then one small foot to the right of the sensor when looking at it from the bottom.Huh. That's a shame. Don't they usually hide screw holes under the adhesive feet?
Probably, but those things are on there pretty good. They're more like "pads" than "feet:" There is one large half-moon pad on the front and back and then one small foot to the right of the sensor when looking at it from the bottom.
Hmm. That's disappointing. I like HEAVY mice, but the trend over the last 10 years has been to make them lighter and lighter.
Maybe you can crack open the case and hotglue a lead fishing sinker in there
I might actually try this if I am unhappy with the weight. With that big bulbous plastic body, there has to be some empty space in there.
Well, being the wild and crazy guy that I am, I decided to try something new and do an unboxing video. I've ridiculed them in the past, and I probably will in the future, but why not have a little fun with it. If anyone cares (why would you? ), here it is:
Next step for you is fornite streaming
I remember really liking an MX300, and/or MX310. I did also use for awhile an MX510, but after that went to a nice laser mouse with a better shape and never looked back. Ikari by steelseries is my favorite mouse of all time. Hard to find now though, and the ones on Ebay are usually refurbs I'm using a newer steelseries that has a different shape but is adequate. I still have both the mx310 and mx510's.. the 510 is my lanparty spare, but I don't like it anymore after using the laser mice, and always bring the steelseries to lan's. Those rubberized surfaces only last a few years, then get grossly sticky... had that with one of the Ikari's... so, pass for me.
And yeah, once you find a mouse you really really love, buy like 5 more! I wish I had more Ikari's...
Lol. Do you knock it 'til you've tried it I guess
My stepson does that shit. It's not for me though.
More seriously though, I plan on opening my MX518 to add some weight.
Maybe I'll record myself doing that for good measure.
Instructional videos. That's what YouTube is for!
Yeah. But I thought Ikari was the model/style, Steelseries the brand. This is the one I love: https://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelSerie...:sc:USPSFirstClass!73110!US!-1&frcectupt=true
Looking around my search results, there are some brand new ones! Ugly color scheme "Iron Lady" but hey, at least its the mouse I love. Going to order 2 of the new ones!
Now, Microsoft, bring me back a proper 5 button intellimouse!
Jinx on the world map mouse pad Zarathustra
I have an original IntelliMouse Explorer, it's my emergency backup. It's all faded and worn out but it works great. My son picked it out the drawer the other day. He's like what's this? I laughed and said that mouse is older than you and it still works. He turns 18 in May.
I would be interesting in what is inside that so let me know when you do. I am sure there is plenty of wasted space inside there.
I have had a busy weekend helping a friend move, so I havent gotten around to starting this project yet, but I did make an interesting discovery on the weight front.
For kids who participate in derby car contests and want to fine tune the weight of their cars they sell some sort of tungsten putty, which is very dense, moldeable and somewhat tacky. it seems almost perfect for this application.
I have ordered three ounces of it and will likely use it to weigh down the mouse a little when I get it.
I received mine and it feels like the left and right buttons are too stiff compare to G703 or G502 Hero. Not sure if I could get used to that again. However, the shape still perfect fit for my hand. Still contemplating if I should keep the mouse.
EDIT: also the back/forward button sometimes does not register. Anyone have experience this problem?
I only briefly had mine plugged into the computer before disassembling it in preparation for adding weight.
My tungsten putty arrives this evening, after which I will reassemble it and let you know.
My general philosophy is that if you receive a new product and some aspect of it isn't working, it is probably defective and to RMA it. It happens sometimes even to the best of companies, especially with a new launch.
Alright, so I took a few minutes to crack the mouse open today.
You do have to remove the two large pads, but this is super simple. Just use a flathead screwdriver, the thinner and wider the head the better, to avoid tearing the pad. Once you get the pads started you can just pull them off with your fingers. The adhesive on them is tacky, so they should be able to be pulled off and replaced countless times, as long as you don't do something stupid like get dirt on the sticky side. I stuck mine on the thermoformed plastic tray the mouse came in, in the package, to protect them.
It was really quite simple, only three screws, one under the pad on the bottom and two under the pad on the top.
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Unlike the original MX518, there was no screw under the little pad on the side.
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Once the screws are removed. the seam between the bottom and the top of the mouse is very tight and pretty concealed. I couldn't really get my fingernails in there to separate the two. A little jiggling was - however - enough to get them apart. No prying necessary. The mouse cable is attached to the bottom half, so you can try carefully lifting by it.
Be careful when opening it, as there is a small ribbon cable going to the top half of the mouse, you don't want to damage. When I finally got mine opened, a little spring decided to go catapulting out of it. I am going to need to find where it came from so I can return it to its proper place.
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Here it is all open. As you can see LOTS of space to add weights should you want to, especially if you use a very dense and formable material like tungsten putty. I'm guessing the parts that make the mouse work just take a lot less space than they used to. See a comparison to the original MX518 innards at the bottom of this post.
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It's a mouse, not a race car, so weight distribution probably isn't SUPER critical, but when I add mine, I am going to try to balance it around the center as much as possible, so it winds up not having a weight distribution to either side. One possible place to put it looks to be along the plastic wall on the side. (the one inside the seam to the top half clamshell. I could roll the tungsten putty into one long strand and stick it along that wall. I'll have to see when my tungsten putty gets here.
Also, I did some troubleshooting to try to figure out where that spring came from. I placed the top half back on and tested every button and function. They all seem to work without it. In the end I think it added extra springy support for the scroll wheel. It looks to fit quite nicely here, so I am hoping this is the right place for it:
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And here for comparison is a picture of the original MX518 innards. (I stole this one from the internet) Look at how old and large all those parts look! It's only been - what - 15 years? And they were using large chips with through hole board mounts? Nuts.
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Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I'll do more testing. Keep us posted how you modded yours.
nice mod. Although my max weight on mouse probably around 110-125g. I'm testing my back button and I need more testing on other games. Maybe it was just me and i hope it's just me. I actually used the mouse for over 2hrs last night and seems the back button works just fine when browsing, but rapid execution in game seems a little off.