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9800 GX2 Pictures and Specs

Whats funny is Toms Hardware posting their own 'exclusive' a whole day later.


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A bit off topic but why does everyone talk about that crysis game, I played it and its not even that good.
 
because crysis is teh benchmark fro pc gaming atm. no cards can handle crysis in MAXIMUM detail. and about this card, well if the price is right i may get it. im tired of waiting to build my rig and ditch agp altogether honestly i should of didtched agp loong ago when 8800 first came out. i never imaged 8800 series lasting this long
 
What I'm curious to find out is how much faster this 9800GTX is supposed to be. 5%? 3%? Can't be much if 2 of them can't even do more than 30% more than a 8800GTX. And they'll price it at over $600 dollars when cards like the 8800GT offer most of the performance for next to nothing, what a joke. This has to be the worst Nvidia launch since the 5 series, only this time ATI isn't here to save us
 
nigerian_businessman said:
Whats funny is Toms Hardware posting their own 'exclusive' a whole day later.
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Yup, Neowin posted a post about it and I just had to raise a stink about it over there. Tom's does have more pictures, but I saw here what I needed to see, so I don't see why Tom's is trying to toot their own horn. They got beat to the punch, so to speak!
 
isn't the point of SLI having the extra slot to accommodate all the extra bandwidth use

So wouldnt it just botttleneck cause it has only one PCIe slot?
 
So I'm looking at the sli setup on Tom's:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/exclusive_nvidia_geforce_9800gx2/

How the fuck do you even get to any connectors with that shit? It covers the entire bottom of the board. SATA's, CMOS reset, front panel connectors, everything is covered.

Does anyone else think this sucks?

I bet it puts a shit ton of stress on the PCI-X connectors as well...not to mention the heat build up and air flow restrictions.

 
D-OveRMinD said:
How the fuck do you even get to any connectors with that shit? It covers the entire bottom of the board. SATA's, CMOS reset, front panel connectors, everything is covered.
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If you look at the new 780i boards they don't have ANY connectors behind the PCI-e slots for this very reason.

D-OveRMinD said:
I bet it puts a shit ton of stress on the PCI-X connectors as well...not to mention the heat build up and air flow restrictions.
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It looks to me like the card intakes from the rear of the casing on both sides and exhausts through the front of the card just below the DVI ports. Seems pretty smart to me.
 
D-OveRMinD said:
So I'm looking at the sli setup on Tom's:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/exclusive_nvidia_geforce_9800gx2/

How the fuck do you even get to any connectors with that shit? It covers the entire bottom of the board. SATA's, CMOS reset, front panel connectors, everything is covered.

Does anyone else think this sucks?

I bet it puts a shit ton of stress on the PCI-X connectors as well...not to mention the heat build up and air flow restrictions.
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ROFL that thing looks ridiculous! In this day and age of 45nm technology everything getting smaller Nvidia is going to drop a behemoth of a videocard that dwarfs the mobo to which it is attached? This seems like a hoax to me, it can't be true.
 
D-OveRMinD said:
So I'm looking at the sli setup on Tom's:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/exclusive_nvidia_geforce_9800gx2/

How the fuck do you even get to any connectors with that shit? It covers the entire bottom of the board. SATA's, CMOS reset, front panel connectors, everything is covered.

Does anyone else think this sucks?

I bet it puts a shit ton of stress on the PCI-X connectors as well...not to mention the heat build up and air flow restrictions.
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LOL. Very true. Pray that your case have long cables to manoeuvre around the cards to reach the connectors of your motherboard.

Another thing is that you better have a very good air cooling case because by the look of it, these 2 cards are dumping heat right inside the case/system.
 
It seems that like the 7900GX2 with no SLI profile you will end up only having the use of one GPU,.It also looks like it will only have a 256bit memory bus with the 512mg of ram
 
Leadsled said:
It seems that like the 7900GX2 with no SLI profile you will end up only having the use of one GPU,.
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And, thus, only at a $450 would this be worth it. Quad-SLI was butchered with the 7950GX2s and I doubt nVidia has learned the lesson.

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Glad to see HDMI and some audio port built-in. Shame it is on the $450+ card, though. :(
 
xp3nd4bl3 said:
If you look at the new 780i boards they don't have ANY connectors behind the PCI-e slots for this very reason.
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SATA connectors look to be outward facing at the back of the board, but other connectors like USB headers, CMOS clear, additional jumpers, fan headers, and front IO connectors are scattered in that area depending on the manufacturer.

xp3nd4bl3 said:
It looks to me like the card intakes from the rear of the casing on both sides and exhausts through the front of the card just below the DVI ports. Seems pretty smart to me.
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I was more concerned about the airflow of the rest of the case. That, and the double stack DVI pushes the air vents on the back to a 1x1 inch square. Seems restrictive. The intake is on the side instead of the back...right up against the side panel of your case. Again, seems restrictive.
 
Not sure but do the 8800GT and GTS have a HDMI output like the GX2? Can you use that output just as you would a DVI ect... I was wondering if the HDMI output was only used for movie playback or everything:confused:
 
rodman said:
Not sure but do the 8800GT and GTS have a HDMI output like the GX2? Can you use that output just as you would a DVI ect... I was wondering if the HDMI output was only used for movie playback or everything:confused:
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HDMI is both sound and DVI data - usefull if you want a single digital out source to your receiver. In my case, all my electronic equipment goes HDMI out to the TV - 120hz Samsung 46" widescreen TV is my computer monitor, and I use a digital optical out to my receiver (because it does not have HDMI jacks). If it did, I could route all my components to the receiver and then anytime I wanted to switch the video input, I'd just turn on the TV and then select a different input source on the receiver and it would automatically put the appropriate image on the screen, rather than me having to switch inputs on two devices. That's the nice, fluffy reason for it. The bitter truth is the man is trying to keep you down, by preventing you from copying protected digital sources - so HDMI (the later version of it) allows for secure HDCP connections, which prevent direct digital copying of protected formats.

edit: You can buy a DVI to HDMI converter for cheap - like $18 bucks for a 10' (buy in the PC cable section - avoid the home theater, they charge 6 to 10 times the price)
 
jonneymendoza said:
because crysis is teh benchmark fro pc gaming atm. no cards can handle crysis in MAXIMUM detail. and about this card, well if the price is right i may get it. im tired of waiting to build my rig and ditch agp altogether honestly i should of didtched agp loong ago when 8800 first came out. i never imaged 8800 series lasting this long
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Indeed, I waited and waited, finally decided to upgrade just as September rolled around the corner, just wish I would have done so earlier.
 
Blackstone said:
The solution I am looking for is 1680 x 1050, 4xaa, very high shaders and post processing, and pretty much everything else on high or very high, 40+ fps.

I'm not even playing Crysis until I can hit those settings. And even if a quad sli setup could pull that off, I have a hard time justifying ditching my perfectly good GTX, which rips through every other game just to play Crysis.

I'm not sure Crysis is the start of a trend, considering it did not sell well. I doubt Battlefield 3, Starcraft 2, and whatever else is on the horizon will be as ambitious with the graphics. Call of Duty 4 and Orange Box is probably the model that game developers will follow, not Crysis. It would be one thing if there were other games in the pipe like Crysis, but can anyone even name one game that has been announced that will probably have system requirements similar to Crysis?
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alan wake and far cry 2 both come into mind
 
aFive said:
Indeed, I waited and waited, finally decided to upgrade just as September rolled around the corner, just wish I would have done so earlier.
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i think i will get the 9800GX2 if the price is ok, i realy cant be asked to wait anymore. if the 9800GX2 gets outdated surely i can just simply slot in the 10800 nvidia card or whatever the next true gen card is without replacing my mobo, cpu etc right? how long will pci 2.0 last?
 
This card seems like a perfect candidate for the EVGA step-up program!!!

Get a 9800GX2 in Feb and in March step-up to the 9800GTX.

GTX better be 2x faster than a 8800GTX or I'm not jumping!
 
Sunin said:
This card seems like a perfect candidate for the EVGA step-up program!!!

Get a 9800GX2 in Feb and in March step-up to the 9800GTX.

GTX better be 2x faster than a 8800GTX or I'm not jumping!
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Why do you think that the 9800GTX will be faster than the 9800GX2?
 
Sunin said:
This card seems like a perfect candidate for the EVGA step-up program!!!

Get a 9800GX2 in Feb and in March step-up to the 9800GTX.

GTX better be 2x faster than a 8800GTX or I'm not jumping!
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If you go by the nVidia roadmap [H] posted, the 9800GX2 will be replacing the 8800 Ultra and the 9800GTX will replace the 8800GTX- and, as I recall, correct me if I'm wrong, ofc, the 8800 Ultra is faster than the 8800GTX.
 
jmackay said:
Could be. Its basically 2 GT(s)'s stuck together, which each retail for ~220-300 (MSRP anyway).

They got blasted for how stupidly expensive the Ultra was, so maybe they learned.
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well if its 256sp then that means its basically two 8800gts 512mb cards and those have an msrp of &#8220;$299-$349&#8221; but sell for well over $350 each.
 
cannondale06 said:
well if its 256sp then that means its basically two 8800gts 512mb cards and those sell for well over $350 each.
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Only because they can get the extra money from the demand... think of Intel's processors, the ones that are barely faster cost $100+ for every like .1ghz.

There isn't much difference in the GT and GTS so I doubt the GTS really costs much more to produce.
 
jmackay said:
Only because they can get the extra money from the demand... think of Intel's processors, the ones that are barely faster cost $100+ for every like .1ghz.

There isn't much difference in the GT and GTS so I doubt the GTS really costs much more to produce.
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well the 8800gts 512mb official msrp does go up to $349. so two of those stuck together for just $449 is only $100 more. it does seem a little low considering Nvidia could charge whatever they want and plenty of people would buy it. just look at all the idiots that paid nearly $1000 for an 8800 Ultra when it was first released.
 
Frag0Lution said:
Sounds very probable to me. All these sites aren't pulling $449 out of their asses IMO.
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If the 9800GX2 is using G92 GPUs than it really makes quite a bit of sense. Afterall 8800GT's are cheap for the 256MB versions and the 512MB versions aren't that bad either. So I can see how they could keep the cost around $449.99.
 
cannondale06 said:
well the 8800gts 512mb official msrp does go up to $349. so two of those stuck together for just $449 is only $100 more. it does seem a little low considering Nvidia could charge whatever they want and plenty of people would buy it. just look at all the idiots that paid nearly $1000 for an 8800 Ultra when it was first released.
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Well considering NV released the GT which came close to GTX for 1/2 the price, I could see them releasing this GX2 for the price of the current GTX's.

And remember, it doesn't cost them $300 to make a GTS card, thats what they charge for it. So they can lower their per-product price in order to sell more and thus make more overall, and gain more market share.
 
jmackay said:
Well considering NV released the GT which came close to GTX for 1/2 the price, I could see them releasing this GX2 for the price of the current GTX's.

And remember, it doesn't cost them $300 to make a GTS card, thats what they charge for it. So they can lower their per-product price in order to sell more and thus make more overall, and gain more market share.
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Yep.

They might have learned a thing or two about pricing as I'm betting the 8800 Ultra didn't sell like they wanted it to. I'd also wager that while the 8800GTX probably did sell well very few people bought two of them for SLI due to their cost. No doubt having to use an NVIDIA chipset based board also put people off to SLI'ed 8800GTX's but that is another matter. ;)
 
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