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9800 GX2 Pictures and Specs

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9800 GX2 Pictures and Specs - NVIDIA's yet-to-be released 9800 GX2 in the "flesh." We reveal some of the specs and what should be expected.

**Updated: AT LEAST 30% faster than Ultra....
 
YES I CAN GO X38 NOW NO MORE SLI MOBO at least i hope you can run it on a non nvidia mobo :)

JOY !!
 
This is the best nVidia can do? Take an architecture that is 15+ months old, slap 2 cards onto 1 PCB and call it a day? Sigh. There are games out there (cough Crysis) that wipe the floor with the current 8800 cards. Honestly, nVidia has no real competition from AMD/ATI right now so they are content to sit back and reuse the same architecture first introduced in 2006 as their "new" high end cards because AMD/ATI has nothing comparable.

The enthusiast in me is still excited for an expected 30% increase in peformance compared to current cards. But let's be honest, Crysis averages about 30 frames per second on most 8800 series (generally speaking) so 30% more is an extra 9 frames per second which still falls below that magic 60 frames per second mark.

Hey Kyle, any news on the 9800GTX?
 
Sweet! I have been waiting for this. Is it wrong to get aroused from looking at those pictures? :eek:
 
I kinda dig this look they've been going with. The 8800GT and this anyways. It's really simple. Nothing crazy looking.
 
Hm... Doesn't look like it would be too much longer than an 8800 GTX, if it isn't just the same length. Any other opinions on the size of this thing? It isn't as big as I thought it would be.
 
is it just me or is that card really really ugly with that chinsy looking cooler?
 
Looks like two PCB with the DVI arrangement. I wonder how well would it perform against HD3870 X2 since Crossfire is slightly more efficient at the moment.
 
Completely retarded. This isn't what anyone really wants, NVIDIA.

I like their products and all, but this is stopgap bullshit.
 
I'm kinda disappointed. Only time will tell I guess.
 
The 9800 GX2 is said to be 30% faster than a 8800 Ultra. While it is not clear from the pictures below, we are told it will support "Quad SLI."
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I was hoping for more of a perfomance gain. :(
 
so what the 9 series is just gonna be a rehash of 8? that sucks. where is the new archecture? the crysis killer?
 
If based on G92 does this likely mean a 256-bit memory bus? If so this card is a bit rubbish to be honest and the reason why it is only 30% likely over a 8800 Ultra. The card will likely be highly bandwidth limited. They could potentially go for 512-bit but that's way to high and the card would be insanely expensive. To me it seems like a lot of fuss about nothing and frankly the 7950 GX2 was a horrible product and I don't expect much more from this card. Nvidia SLI support is still far from great (that's not sayings horrible or even bad, mind you) and to lay so much down on a graphics card configuration... eh.

Lots of unanswered questions and I'll state it again, this card will be entirely dependent on memory bandwidth.

Making my 8800GTS 512MB purchase feel A LOT better as well.
 
So it's like a 2 card SLI setup in one?
Will this mean that all the problems that come with SLI apply to this card, or will it work like a single card at the driver level?
 
Real world performance compared to the 3870x2 will make or break the 9800gx2.

People shouldn't be overly concerned about the hardware, the key here is driver support with each given chipset (nvidia, intel and amd).
 
mcravenufo said:
Sweet! I have been waiting for this. Is it wrong to get aroused from looking at those pictures? :eek:
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Not at all,between this abomination,and my shares,plus the talk of a buyout via INTC,and the share price raising noticeably,I am right there with you. :) :eek:
 
"The 9800 GX2 is said to be 30% faster than a 8800 Ultra. While it is not clear from the pictures below, we are told it will support "Quad SLI.""

Why Quad SLI when even regular SLI is not doing the trick??

And what the hell, you'll need "outer space" room to fit 2 of those things in your case. And sub-zero temperatures to keep it cool.

*sigh* stop-gap indeed.
 
mekkanic said:
"The 9800 GX2 is said to be 30% faster than a 8800 Ultra. While it is not clear from the pictures below, we are told it will support "Quad SLI.""

Why Quad SLI when even regular SLI is not doing the trick??

And what the hell, you'll need "outer space" room to fit 2 of those things in your case. And sub-zero temperatures to keep it cool.

*sigh* stop-gap indeed.
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I dont undestand how this is only 30% faster ? 256 SP at one would assume higher speeds then a current ULTRA's SP's...WTH !?? Have they yet again crippled it (G92) with a measly 256bit memory bus,and not enough memory ? Given Kyle mentions 1Gb of ram (on the whole card) it would seem so.And why do they need two pcb's when AMD can do it with one !

Gimped from the get go ? :confused:
 
WhiteZero said:
So it's like a 2 card SLI setup in one?
Will this mean that all the problems that come with SLI apply to this card, or will it work like a single card at the driver level?
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Two cards basically "glued" (it's actually a difficult engineering task, though) together. It operates just like normal SLI would. Look at the 7950 GX2 for an example. It has all the pitfalls except the potential to not need a SLI motherboard, but other than that you don't gain any magical ability to leap over other SLI issues.
 
Manny Calavera said:
I dont undestand how this is only 30% faster ? 256 SP at one would assume higher speeds then a current ULTRA's SP's...WTH !??
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No, I doubt that. The clocks on each core are likely quite low due to thermal restrictions. Each "card" is probably a good bit slower than a single GT.
 
Manny Calavera said:
I dont undestand how this is only 30% faster ? 256 SP at one would assume higher speeds then a current ULTRA's SP's...WTH !?? Have they yet again crippled it (G92) with a measly 256bit memory bus,and not enough memory ? Given Kyle mentions 1Gb of ram (on the whole card) it would seem so.And why do they need two pcb's when AMD can do it with one !

Gimped from the get go ? :confused:
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Memory bandwidth limited, I wouldn't be surprised if its worse off in some cases, actually.

Also AMD can do it on one because the GPUs they're working with a significantly smaller, also realize that AMD's per GPU performance is lower.
 
Another 2 card bodge job that nvidia will market as a single card and the review sites will most likely agree with them when its clearly not.

And if it turns out to only be 30% faster with a setup thats basically sli stuck together its kinda weak.
 
Looks like summer or later before a real GTX/Ultra replacement is released.
 
Looks like another Nvidia sandwich. This is no doubt the last push of the G92 GPU until they roll out the next truly new GPU architecture. I was gonna step-up to this, but now I don't know. It would be a good way to get SLI on my IP35 I guess.

Do you guys know if I could run SLI on my IP35 with this? Or would I even need to?
 
Manny Calavera said:
I dont undestand how this is only 30% faster ? 256 SP at one would assume higher speeds then a current ULTRA's SP's...WTH !?? Have they yet again crippled it (G92) with a measly 256bit memory bus,and not enough memory ? Given Kyle mentions 1Gb of ram (on the whole card) it would seem so.And why do they need two pcb's when AMD can do it with one !

Gimped from the get go ? :confused:
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Each card on this will likely have 128 SP with only 512MB GDDR so having 2 together will not equal the same as a single card with 1GB GDDR and 256 SPs.

On a positive note I remember the DX9 API being the limiting factor in true quad performance scaling, DX 10 is supposed to be much better built for Quad SLi and Quad Crossfire so with 2 of these it's possible Crysis at the highest settings @ 1920x1200 in the 60fps area can come to be true with a setup like this. That might make it worth it for some.

I myself plan to wait for the 9800GTX myself. I have a feeling that this card will be out only a few months after this one and be a much better product. I also believe 2 9800GTX > 9800 GX2 :D
 
It would require SLI support. Otherwise only half the card would be used.
 
Nvidia has no reason to push the envelope with ATI lagging behind so bad. Might as well kick back, choke back the release schedule, and enjoy the profits until ATI can catch up.

What? Did you all think that Nvidia would not milk their performance lead out of the kindness of their hearts?
 
phide said:
No, I doubt that. The clocks on each core are likely quite low due to thermal restrictions. Each "card" is probably a good bit slower than a single GT.
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:eek: Damn phide your right,I forgot about that likelyhood.The clocks on the first GX2 were low... :)


Skrying said:
Memory bandwidth limited, I wouldn't be surprised if its worse off in some cases, actually.

Also AMD can do it on one because the GPUs they're working with a significantly smaller, also realize that AMD's per GPU performance is lower.
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True,true.Not thinking clearly here....(just woke up,its my bday)



Chris_B said:
Another 2 card bodge job that nvidia will market as a single card and the review sites will most likely agree with them when its clearly not.

And if it turns out to only be 30% faster with a setup thats basically sli stuck together its kinda weak.
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Agreed in that this is a weak offering.Nvidia is seemingly putting out just enough to thwart AMD's releases and nothing more. :( J Guru was right.


Kowan said:
Looks like summer or later before a real GTX/Ultra replacement is released.
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If the rumors hold true,we will see a true refresh only a few scant months after this arrives.How long after the first GX2 arrived on the scene,was it before we started hearing about the GTX,and seeing die shot leaks/pcb shot leaks from Taiwan/China ? :confused:
 
What worries me is that the card is called 9800GX2, not 8900GX2. If the 9800GX2 is this, image how bad the 9800GTX would be. Maybe the G92 8800GT and 8800GTS were actually planned as 9800GTS and 9800GTX.
 
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