960 EVO NVME + 850 EVO SATA: Where to Install OS vs. Games?

Codhein

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New system build about to happen. This one is kind of special: first AMD build since my 1400MHz Thunderbird build in 1999, so we're splurging [yes, 1800X is a waste of money] due to nostalgia.

Specs:
Ryzen 1800X (OCed to whatever I can get long-term stable @ ~1.35) on water
32GB Trident Z RGB 3200 CL14 (G.Skill Techs say 4-DIMMs @ 3200MHz should be possible with some tweakery)
Asus X370 Crosshair Hero VI (only missing part...)
Asus Strix RX480 8GB (Filler till we see how Vega 10 performs)
Seasonic 750W Titanium
1x 1TB 960 Evo NVME @ PCIe 3.0 x4
1x 1TB 850 Evo SSD @ SATA 6Gbps
Various Shiny/flashy/glass/sleeved things (...for performance...)
Windows 10 Home (because games)

I've watched vids, I've read posts. I see conflicting data as to NVME vs. SATA and I haven't seen anything with this exact scenario. Load times. Hate them. I get that small random read-writes from games seldom max SATA3 bandwidth, but there is some variance between games and even a second faster level loading is worth pursuing to a silly degree. [I was 'traumatized' by 5400rpm HD at a tender age.]

Where do I want the OS, where do I want the games and where do I want all other programs? Why?

Common sense says put everything on the NVME because the OS randoms probably won't get past QD2, but we're not dealing with this sensibly and I'm not especially familiar w/Win10s disk usage. Clearly, I'm nuking [over-thinking] this. Help me stop.


Notes/?s:
*I WILL RAID0 the fuck out of 1-3 more EVOs if I have to. [Haven't had ONE failure in 15-years, so save it] Anyone know about TRIM w/RAID on X370?
*Anyone seen load times contrasted between Ryzen 7 and i7 Kaby? Honestly, this waiting on the mobo and early bios thing has had me dithering on just building blue again. :/ I'm a whore, I know.
 

arestavo

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Load times are affected by single core speed (CPU and RAM speed) more than by NVME vs. a good quality SATA III SSD.

As to the difference between game load times on NVME vs SATA III SSD specifically?

https://hardforum.com/threads/nvme-...a-iii-ssd-game-load-time-comparisons.1911914/

Unfortunately there really isn't a difference.

Check the bottom of the first post for professional game load time comparisons and Windows boot time comparisons.
 
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Codhein

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Load times are affected by single core speed (CPU and RAM speed) more than by NVME vs. a good quality SATA III SSD.

As to the difference between game load times on NVME vs SATA III SSD specifically?

https://hardforum.com/threads/nvme-...a-iii-ssd-game-load-time-comparisons.1911914/

Unfortunately there really isn't a difference..
Above and beyond that link, the relative importance of CPU and storage can swap places between open world [a faster CPU being somewhat more important) vs. static games [somewhat more storage bandwidth dependent]. But, end of day, you want as ungodly quick a CPU and storage as physics and/or budget allow.

http://www.pcgamer.com/what-goes-on-behind-the-loading-screen/

This is actually what prompted my OP question re: 1800x vs. i7 Kaby: I'm quite curious as to how AMD chips perform relative to Intel on program/OS/level loads. We all hate loading; where are these benchmarks? I'd give up 10% 1080p fps for 10% faster loads.

But, just to wrap up the gist of my original post re: what goes where -- I'm 96.42% sure I'm being paranoid -- as long as I'm not using up the majority of the drive, OS, games and apps go on the NVME and personal data goes on the SSD for optimal results. Was just looking for any caveats someone might be aware of.

Heh. On new boards of a new chip. Braver man than I gungadin.
I'm not saying I've never had problems with RAID in general [I hate 5], or had a disk go bad, but (once I get the OC solid) I've never had a RAID0 disk failure or data corruption problem. Haven't learned to worry because I haven't been bit. Regardless, disk images are kept on a NAS, so...doesn't matter much.
 
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