8800GTX + Vista Ultimate 64 = Nightmare

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Hi guys, I'm expering something xtremely annoying. I've just finished building/installing/configuring my new KILLER GAMING computer. I installed Battlefield 2142 and Bioshock for starters. When I had played Bioshock for about 15 minuits the BSOD (bluescreen) apperead saying somethin about "processs hard locked" at the top of the screen. Then it start to dump physical memory, and then the computere reboot. When Vista started it telled my that something was wrong with my video card OR with the drivers for my video card.

I had the latest WHQL certified drivers, so I thought maybe it would be a good idea to try the latest (beta) 163.71 and so I did. Then I tried to play Battlefield 2142, same problem!

But I think the text told me "process has locked pages" this time. Almost the same text but yet not.

Then I thought It would be a good idea to uninstall the drivers and install an older driver, so I tried the 158.XX (i forgot) but when I uninstalled the 163.71 drivers [you know you have to reboot in order to finish uninstallation] exactly before rebooting BSOD appeared!!! Very strange, with the same text "process has locked pages".

Here's my system:
Gigabyte GA-P35 DQ6
Q6600 (G0) [I've connected the 8pin 12v power connector to the cpu]
Mushkin PC6400 5-5-5-12 2*2048
Leadtek 8800GTX [I've connected two 6pin power connectors to the video card]
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty
Western Digital Raptop 150GB Gamer
Windows Vista Ultimate 64
PSU=Silverstone Decathlon DA750 750Watt
Logitech G15
Logitech G5 version 2


Please help me! I'm on the edge of commiting suicide :/
 
Vista = not the best for gaming

64 = no use unless you do a lot of video editing, 3d rendering, etc.

Vista + 64 = issues

Windows XP = awesome

XP 64-bit = best solution for those needing 4gb of RAM or more

I'd rather have the OS not use 4gb in one program than have it use all, and have to deal with Vista+64. :)
 
It's not just going to turn out to be a Vista problem. The games work fine in Vista. You don't just get random bluescreens because it's vista, or because it's 64-bit. You have something else going on there... Feel free to install XP and find similar problems.

I'd guess you have some hardware issue, seeing as you just built the thing. Double check the bluescreen you're getting.. I've never heard of that error message.

I'd run memtest 86+ (you download the .iso free, burn to cd, then boot to the cd and wait for it to finish.. 100%)

Does this only happen when in games? If you leave your system there for 8 hours without gaming and just use it for the web does it still happen?

When gaming, video card and cpu temps go up, upping the potential for problems if something is awry to begin with.
 
funny that someone mentions that vista gives problems, someone has to chime in that xp is the ONLY solution.

I run a GTX + Vista 64 Ultimate with an oc quad, 4 gb

no problems with gaming.

First you need to download quite a few patches specifically aimed at gaming, 64-bit, 4gb ram, etc...

http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_vista_hotfixes.html

Second, if you follow any of those links for the hotfixes, you will find OTHER hotfixes that may pertain to your system. These ARE NOT available through windows update at the moment. Once you have every hotfix available, then post back and see if you still have issues.
 
Spoudazo said:
Vista = not the best for gaming

64 = no use unless you do a lot of video editing, 3d rendering, etc.

Vista + 64 = issues

Windows XP = awesome

XP 64-bit = best solution for those needing 4gb of RAM or more

I'd rather have the OS not use 4gb in one program than have it use all, and have to deal with Vista+64. :)
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All four of those points are somewhat wrong.
 
Spoudazo said:
Vista = not the best for gaming

64 = no use unless you do a lot of video editing, 3d rendering, etc.

Vista + 64 = issues

Windows XP = awesome

XP 64-bit = best solution for those needing 4gb of RAM or more

I'd rather have the OS not use 4gb in one program than have it use all, and have to deal with Vista+64. :)
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This post = load of crap
 
Are u using the new drivers released this week for the x-fi? I read something about this error today. exactly the same error, try installing the previous version.
 
you know what I am really starting to hate this xp is greater than vista bs. I had one genuine problem in vista ultimate 64 that I still can't figure out, which was SPDIF passthrough on my x-fi xtrememusic. I install xp, and I can now get the passthrough but I am left with plaguing audio driver issues that won't let me properly output DTS in 5.1 and stupid issues with extending my desktop onto my tv, which I had no problems with in Vista.

Really now that I am back in the XP camp for a few minutes.. I hate it! It looks awful in comparison and I now remember why I gladly jumped on the Vista bandwagon when it first came out... random glitches and driver errors.

Oh and Vista media center > all else :)
 
I'm doing fine in Vista 64 myself, except for a few games, Armed Assault and GRAW 2.

Running Q6600, 8800, 4GB.

Games working as they should so far: Call of Juarez, GRAW 1, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas, Company of Heroes, World in Conflict.
 
Hi guys! Thank you all for relying! I REALLY appriciate it! I do.

Okay, I've already been running Memteste86+ version 1.7 when I started this thread, now It has been running for 3hours without any errors at all.

And I think I've already installed all those hotfixes that you gave me SLADE, thx. I wll stop the Memtest if you think 3 hours if enought, AND when I do so I will double check and make sure that all of those hotfixes already are installed.

Just so you all know I havt NOT started to overclock anything at all [yet, but first I must solve this BSOD problem that's KILLING ME].

I've tried serveral drivers, so probably it's anything else?

I havenä't checked the tempatures yet, I will do that as well after I stopped the memtest (once again 3hours= enought ..or??)

I good thing though!
I've got a Gainward 8800GTS 640 in this house, AND a MSI Radeon RX2600XT 256MB Silent. Toghether with
Corsair XMS2 2048MB DDR2 XMS2-5400 675MHz (4-4-4-12)
and
Corsair XMS2 Xtreme PC-6400 2x1024MB 800MHz DDR2 CL4
and
Auzentech 7.1 Xplosion
so if I wanna troubleshoot by changing hardware, I'm fully capable of doing so... IF, then how? Which way is "the best"?

Edit:
By the way, I have updated my BIOS to the latest version "F6"
 
Above poster-

Me: My car has a flat tire
Them: Oh that's cause you bought Honda. Get an Acura... it doesn't get flats.
 
You may want to Google X-FI Vista 4GB RAM issues. I think there are problems with that combo.
 
I had a problem with Bioshock locking up with a blue screen in Vista 64 with my 8800GTS and it turned out to be that tablet pc services was causing the problem
 
If all else is normal, and that is a big if......Bioshock + Vista 64 is VERY buggy.
I have Home Premium 64 bit and my Bioshock freezes and crashes at random, unless I have EAX and Reverb disabled. It runs on XP as smooth as silk.
If I disable EAX/Reverb the game will run rather smoothly. I'll bet you'll find the same. For Bioshock in particular make sure you have the latest Open AL driver installed. You can Google this.
 
@Silverado SS!!! YES, I discovered Tablet PC as hidden in the start menu, HOW did you solve it? What did you do?

MANY thanks!

@cooter
Which driver would you recommend?
 
Spoudazo said:
Vista = not the best for gaming

64 = no use unless you do a lot of video editing, 3d rendering, etc.

Vista + 64 = issues

Windows XP = awesome

XP 64-bit = best solution for those needing 4gb of RAM or more

I'd rather have the OS not use 4gb in one program than have it use all, and have to deal with Vista+64. :)
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Don't spread misinformation. I've been running Vista 64 with no similar issues until the last couple drivers. It's likely a driver issue as of 165.69 WHQL and 163.71 beta. OP, if you drop back to 163.44 you should notice they stop. I think it has something to do with the 'fixes' for 8800 GTS 320MB owners. Hopefully they'll solve things for the rest of us in the next revision. If not Nvidia can expect numerous angry emails and more than one petition, by my estimation.

Also, someone should've told you that X-Fi + Vista = hell. Creative is the one that can't get their act together, and 32/64bit makes no difference there.
 
Slade said:
funny that someone mentions that vista gives problems, someone has to chime in that xp is the ONLY solution.
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not the only solution, but it is the best one. and lets face it when on OS comes out that is not as good as its predecessor, its is a joke.

vista is slower.

vista has many compatability issues

vista has very intrusive DRM

dx 10 has very, very little support, is alot slower than dx 9, and not much better looking anyhow. programmers had only just scratched the surface of what dx9 could do.
 
redrum_237 said:
@Silverado SS!!! YES, I discovered Tablet PC as hidden in the start menu, HOW did you solve it? What did you do?

MANY thanks!

@cooter
Which driver would you recommend?
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If i remember right you can disable tablet PC through services. Haven't been on vista in bit.
 
j1979 said:
not the only solution, but it is the best one. and lets face it when on OS comes out that is not as good as its predecessor, its is a joke.

vista is slower.

vista has many compatability issues

vista has very intrusive DRM

dx 10 has very, very little support, is alot slower than dx 9, and not much better looking anyhow. programmers had only just scratched the surface of what dx9 could do.
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Have you used it? I was very anti-Vista until I gave it some time. I prefer the 'look and feel' of XP, but there is no denying that my Vista machine is far more stable for longer periods of time and as a general rule (since selling my X-Fi, which I was totally unimpressed with anyway) is not problematic when compared with XP. It's not any slower, either -- if anything, it's faster after the first week or two, once the caching system has done its thing. Yes, the DRM is annoying, yes I hate DRM, yes I want it gone... but it's a lot easier to say 'I shouldn't have to go through this shit for a $50 game' than 'I shouldn't have to go through this shit for a $300 OS'.
 
I'm not anti-vista, but I speak from experience that I will not use vista again until SP1 release and it is proven before I move anything back to it.

If you have the option to either move down to the 32bit ultimate edition or put in XPpro, I recommend the latter, do that. For my buddies PCs that came with Vista they are so much a pain in the ass getting out the quirks, most games need to be run in admin mode and have the compatibility set to Winxp SP2. Then using Voip software with said game sometimes doesnt work without some work around or some obscure option settings too.

But to sum it up, Vista is not a gaming OS, yet...
 
azuldenial said:
I'm not anti-vista, but I speak from experience that I will not use vista again until SP1 release and it is proven before I move anything back to it.

If you have the option to either move down to the 32bit ultimate edition or put in XPpro, I recommend the latter, do that. For my buddies PCs that came with Vista they are so much a pain in the ass getting out the quirks, most games need to be run in admin mode and have the compatibility set to Winxp SP2. Then using Voip software with said game sometimes doesnt work without some work around or some obscure option settings too.

But to sum it up, Vista is not a gaming OS, yet...
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http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_nvidia_windows_vista_driver_performance_update/

Gaming is almost identical on vista compared to XP.

been running Vista Ultimate 64bit for 3 weeks now, not 1 issue with gaming or games period.

Anyway just my .02
 
silent-circuit said:
Have you used it? I was very anti-Vista until I gave it some time. I prefer the 'look and feel' of XP, but there is no denying that my Vista machine is far more stable for longer periods of time and as a general rule (since selling my X-Fi, which I was totally unimpressed with anyway) is not problematic when compared with XP. It's not any slower, either -- if anything, it's faster after the first week or two, once the caching system has done its thing. Yes, the DRM is annoying, yes I hate DRM, yes I want it gone... but it's a lot easier to say 'I shouldn't have to go through this shit for a $50 game' than 'I shouldn't have to go through this shit for a $300 OS'.
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Not to argue, but what do you mean it's stable for longer periods of time? I've simply got XP 32 bit and I leave the machine on for a week+ at a time.

Is there a limit to your XP stability? What problems were you having?
 
I must say that people who are like "wtf my Vista rig works flawlessly!" are bit short sighted. You guys do understand that even if your systems work ok, that does not mean everybody else is fine.

I thank Vista for one reason. If no Vista I would not have a job currently, plain and simple. 90% of the troubleshooting/problem cases I get at work are Vista related. Theres even a whole line up of computers (of a major computer maker I might add) that just freeze multiple times a day due to Vista + Nvidia drivers. Iam talking about thousands of computers in a very small country, I can only imagine how it is in bigger countries. Sure you can blaim it on low quality OEM parts and whatever but there are just too many little quirks that are Vista related. Things like having to upgrade Routers firmware just because otherwise a machine with Vista cannot connect it through WLAN and so on.

So yes I can say Vista is causing major issues. If it works for you, be extremely gratefull for your good luck, but please lose the "Vista is ok for me, it should work for you too" attitude.
 
JStudrawa said:
Not to argue, but what do you mean it's stable for longer periods of time? I've simply got XP 32 bit and I leave the machine on for a week+ at a time.

Is there a limit to your XP stability? What problems were you having?
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After 2-3 days XP would start to act odd -- browser slowdowns, apps occasionally crashing, stuff like that. Nothing specific. Vista doesn't do any of that.
 
sam0t said:
I must say that people who are like "wtf my Vista rig works flawlessly!" are bit short sighted. You guys do understand that even if your systems work ok, that does not mean everybody else is fine.

I thank Vista for one reason. If no Vista I would not have a job currently, plain and simple. 90% of the troubleshooting/problem cases I get at work are Vista related. Theres even a whole line up of computers (of a major computer maker I might add) that just freeze multiple times a day due to Vista + Nvidia drivers. Iam talking about thousands of computers in a very small country, I can only imagine how it is in bigger countries. Sure you can blaim it on low quality OEM parts and whatever but there are just too many little quirks that are Vista related. Things like having to upgrade Routers firmware just because otherwise a machine with Vista cannot connect it through WLAN and so on.

So yes I can say Vista is causing major issues. If it works for you, be extremely gratefull for your good luck, but please lose the "Vista is ok for me, it should work for you too" attitude.
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How many Vista- specific issue threads do you see here? It usually turns out to be something hardware related. The single most common issue I've seen would be driver signing issues in Vista 64bit, which boils down to uninformed consumers. Vista does try to use IPv6, and yes that does have a number of potential issues connected to it, but in the end it's your fault for not keeping your router firmware up to date in the first place. I'm running Vista and Nivida drivers on my desktop and laptop both. My machines don't lock up at random. As a general rule they don't lock up at all. This is definitely one of those situations where for every person with an issue there are hundreds if not thousands with no issues. Yes, there are quirks, but there are plenty of quirks in XP too. Hopefully the bulk will be sorted out in SP1 much like they were with XP. Maybe they won't be.
 
sam0t said:
I must say that people who are like "wtf my Vista rig works flawlessly!" are bit short sighted. You guys do understand that even if your systems work ok, that does not mean everybody else is fine.

I thank Vista for one reason. If no Vista I would not have a job currently, plain and simple. 90% of the troubleshooting/problem cases I get at work are Vista related. Theres even a whole line up of computers (of a major computer maker I might add) that just freeze multiple times a day due to Vista + Nvidia drivers. Iam talking about thousands of computers in a very small country, I can only imagine how it is in bigger countries. Sure you can blaim it on low quality OEM parts and whatever but there are just too many little quirks that are Vista related. Things like having to upgrade Routers firmware just because otherwise a machine with Vista cannot connect it through WLAN and so on.

So yes I can say Vista is causing major issues. If it works for you, be extremely gratefull for your good luck, but please lose the "Vista is ok for me, it should work for you too" attitude.
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that also means that people who say omg vista sucks cuz they had an issue are short sighted. The fact is, I have installed many copies of vista, that worked very well, with little to no problems, are far more stable, and more user friendly to the clients that use it.

I have installed xp on many more machines, so my sample is a bit skewed when I say i have more problems with xp then vista =p but still so far on a PROPERLY WORKING machine, with supported hardware, vista works better then xp. and chances are, if you are having an issue with vista, (or even xp) you have a hardware problem (on install) which could also extend to drivers. Which you can't blame on the OS entirely.
 
silent-circuit said:
How many Vista- specific issue threads do you see here? It usually turns out to be something hardware related. The single most common issue I've seen would be driver signing issues in Vista 64bit, which boils down to uninformed consumers. Vista does try to use IPv6, and yes that does have a number of potential issues connected to it, but in the end it's your fault for not keeping your router firmware up to date in the first place. I'm running Vista and Nivida drivers on my desktop and laptop both. My machines don't lock up at random. As a general rule they don't lock up at all. This is definitely one of those situations where for every person with an issue there are hundreds if not thousands with no issues. Yes, there are quirks, but there are plenty of quirks in XP too. Hopefully the bulk will be sorted out in SP1 much like they were with XP. Maybe they won't be.
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Indeed mostly all the issues are due to uninformed consumer not updating his drivers and so on. But you can imagine how it is to try and explain to your average joe sixpack how to update their routers firmware when the fellow hardly knows how to turn on the machine. And on top of that they yell at you "why the hell do I have to do that!", "Because you have Vista" and then it gets messy ;)

Also I did not intent to spell doom on Vista (maybe I sounded just too bitter or something), I very well remember pre XP SP2 days and hey it got better too.

Point was that Vista is out there right now and is causing lot of grey hairs for alot of people. I too hope SP1 fixes the damn OS cause all the "VISTA SUCKS" calls I get are getting old and annoying :)

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But yes maybe we should say that Vista works ok for most of the enthustiastic people, but not so great for most average joes. Because when you look at the numbers they speak their own lanquage. Currently Vista has about 10% market share and it causes 90% of my work load, soo it really is not that hard to do the math ;)
 
sam0t said:
Point was that Vista is out there right now and is causing lot of grey hairs for alot of people. I too hope SP1 fixes the damn OS cause all the "VISTA SUCKS" calls I get are getting old and annoying :)

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But yes maybe we should say that Vista works ok for most of the enthustiastic people, but not so great for most average joes. Because when you look at the numbers they speak their own lanquage. Currently Vista has about 10% market share and it causes 90% of my work load, soo it really is not that hard to do the math ;)
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Taking in to account that machines running XP are going to be older (and thusly, you probably already did this sort of work with the users of said machines, if there was that sort of work to be done) the math gets much more difficult. Borders on impossible. Over all, Windows just isn't that great an OS. Neither is Linux, for different reasons. Neither is Mac OS, again, for different reasons. There's no such thing as a good OS -- they just suck for their own reasons. ;)
 
Spoudazo said:
Vista = not the best for gaming

64 = no use unless you do a lot of video editing, 3d rendering, etc.

Vista + 64 = issues

Windows XP = awesome

XP 64-bit = best solution for those needing 4gb of RAM or more

I'd rather have the OS not use 4gb in one program than have it use all, and have to deal with Vista+64. :)
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You are wrong. Vista 64bit IS FINE and Vista in general is good for gaming now. XP 64 sucks, driver support is bad for one. Vista 64 is quite useful if you have 4gb of ram.
 
like some of the posters abover
it's not your vid card
it's the X-Fi vista driver in vista w/ 4GB ram
try the older driver 2.12 or something like that
 
OKay, now it crashed again while playing bioshock. And now I fixed (before it crashed) so the comp doesn't restart automaticaly, and the bluescreen says:

"process has locked pages" (at the top)

and then the error code:
*** STOP: 0x00000076 (0x0000000000000000,0xFFFFFA80007840040, 0x0000000000000028, 0X0000000000000000)

Collecting data for crash dump
Initializing disk for crash dump
Beginning dump of physical memory
Dumping physical memory to disk
Physicalmemory dump complete
Contact your system admin or tech...


does this say anything?
 
Nothing at all. Roll back the X-Fi driver, or better yet, pull it and sell the piece of junk, and I bet all your problems will disappear.
 
silent-circuit said:
Have you used it? I was very anti-Vista until I gave it some time. I prefer the 'look and feel' of XP, but there is no denying that my Vista machine is far more stable for longer periods of time and as a general rule (since selling my X-Fi, which I was totally unimpressed with anyway) is not problematic when compared with XP. It's not any slower, either -- if anything, it's faster after the first week or two, once the caching system has done its thing. Yes, the DRM is annoying, yes I hate DRM, yes I want it gone... but it's a lot easier to say 'I shouldn't have to go through this shit for a $50 game' than 'I shouldn't have to go through this shit for a $300 OS'.
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the short answer is yes ive used it, but i have no plans at present to install it on my pc.
and this comparison is only one reason why.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/
 
silent-circuit said:
Nothing at all. Roll back the X-Fi driver, or better yet, pull it and sell the piece of junk, and I bet all your problems will disappear.
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j1979 said:
the short answer is yes ive used it, but i have no plans at present to install it on my pc.
and this comparison is only one reason why.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/
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Come on, seriously... stop with the flames and random unrelated crap guys. Bottom line is according to all recent tests, it works/performs as well as XP. Either way you feel though, this is *NOT* the thread for it.

OP... try using the older X-Fi driver, I have a system about identical to yours and it works fine (4gb, Q6600, GTX, Vista Ult. x64, X-Fi). I did find the newer X-Fi drivers caused crashes when I tried them. See if the older ones will help you... :).
 
GoldenTiger said:
Come on, seriously... stop with the flames and random unrelated crap guys. Bottom line is according to all recent tests, it works/performs as well as XP. Either way you feel though, this is *NOT* the thread for it.

OP... try using the older X-Fi driver, I have a system about identical to yours and it works fine (4gb, Q6600, GTX, Vista Ult. x64, X-Fi). I did find the newer X-Fi drivers caused crashes when I tried them. See if the older ones will help you... :).
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im just trying to convince people that vista is not worth it. it offers very little advantages over XP and lots of downsides. The problems the OP is having will be solved by installing XP. fact.
 
j1979 said:
im just trying to convince people that vista is not worth it. it offers very little advantages over XP and lots of downsides. The problems the OP is having will be solved by installing XP. fact.
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COMPLETELY and UTTERLY incorrect, this has nothing to do with Vista. Save the personal crusades for elsewhere.
 
I run Vista 64 bit with little or no issues. Granted , things were not smooth sailing at first but it did not take long to fine tune things and I have no issues with Bioshock , or any of the newer games. AS for BF2 and 2142, they never worked properly in Xp much less Vista. Sometimes they are fine sometimes they are not...........cool games but coded like shit
 
j1979 said:
im just trying to convince people that vista is not worth it. it offers very little advantages over XP and lots of downsides. The problems the OP is having will be solved by installing XP. fact.
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The problems the OP is having will be solved by removing the hunk of trash that is the Creative X-Fi. Fact.
 
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