And teach kids about the dangers of picking one up and "playing" with it early.
Even if you are anti gun, basic knowledge of firearms is not a bad idea.
Well said!Guns, like games, are blameless objects. How they are used, and by whom is the issue. Loaded gun in reach of an eight year old whose only education regarding guns is GTA IV? Yeah, bad idea
It is not the game, it is not the guns, it is the lack of proper education, upbringing, and supervision.
I'd rather see one of a thousand kids failing in their reach for the stars devastated now and then than a bunch of hood rats bursting into violence every time they feel "disrespected" that end up attracted to crime since they developed no other useful marketable skills.Nah, They just jump off a building when they get an A- in "Piano for Moms Ego."
something tells me a lot of the people who posted in this thread haven't seen an 8 year old in person in years, based on the posts i'm reading
by the age of EIGHT, you have the ability to use critical thinking, and know what's socially accepted as right and wrong. you know what death and life is, and you know the difference between make believe and reality
if a videogame is a factor in determining why an EIGHT year old kills someone, then the kid already has severe psychological problems to begin with.
When I was a kid, it was cops and robbers, or cowboys and indians. We used fake guns back then to 'shoot' at, and to catch each other. Its ingrained in our minds as kids, because its FUN to role-play. Just like girls love to dress up, and play house, and play with dolls. AND THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. But we need to teach our kids the difference between life and death, and what respect with guns means, and obviously this boy was not taught the difference. This is bad parenting plain and simple.
Many factors involved. For once, it may be true that the game was a contributing factor. You don't let an 8 year old play that kind of game and you don't leave a gun lying around.... Clearly nobody educated the child about the difference between games and reality either.
Not necessarily. This kid could still be learning right from wrong, and that killing is wrong. Kids are all very different, and all of them whine and toss a fit about something and become violent, or a brat in some sense when they become excited. This happens to all different degrees with kids. Kids are not adults, while they 'might' be able to rationalize something, it doesn't mean they do when it matters such as in this case.
Obviously you think just because somebody has the ability to use critical thinking, that they 'automatically' know right from wrong, and when to use restraint, and when not too. Do you not think that when an adult commits a murder, they don't have the ability to realize the difference of right and wrong? 8 years old is not an adult, that's why there are laws that he cannot be charged as an adult. Kids are curious about guns, if they are not taught about guns, they think all guns are toys they can 'play' with.
That said, the kid was 8. At that age, having access to a gun is dangerous under any circumstance.
Possibly off topic, but I find it slightly ironic that a family, clearly living with limited means, somehow managed to be able to afford a $300-400 dollar gaming console. Priorities!
You don't see how fucking nuts that is? Gun violence unheard of yet your house is armed like a drug dealers?
Apparantly you are drinking the kool-aid or you are too young to speak. The kids were all fine, I was fine, we all knew what a gun was, what it could do, how to shoot it (if we were big enough to be able to hold it, we went shooting with pops and learned it).
We weren't a society of mind weak whimps and pushovers, like you are. Face it: You are a product of pussification. You should never even see a real gun in person, for your own sake.
Heck yea it's a great point, how many kids have shot each other while they were visiting someone else's home and the kids just were not taught to not play with guns.
Guns are no different and even if they aren't in your house they often are in someone else's house.
Teach them; show them what a gun is.
Teach them; show them what a gun does, (the noise and a watermellon make an impression).
Teach them; explain that they will get to learn to shoot guns later when they are older.
Teach them so you don't have to bury them, or have them deal their entire life with having killed someone else by age 8.
Yeah, we came a long way. One thing is for sure: We never had a school shooting. No one was dumb enough to even think about trying it. Even the dumb kids were smart enough to know better.
So, how far has society really taken us and for what means?
I let my niece play GTA 3 and Vice City on my phone and she likes it a lot.She talks about runing people over,killing them to get the money,but she is aware its just a game and not to be taken seriously.She is also 6 not 8.Again this crap how the game is to blame?Maybe the stupid/crazy parents who keep a gun around in the house and gave that child a bad education are to blame...Many factors involved. For once, it may be true that the game was a contributing factor. You don't let an 8 year old play that kind of game and you don't leave a gun lying around.... Clearly nobody educated the child about the difference between games and reality either.
...I think it should be considered criminal negligence to have firearms in the home that are not locked, unless they are not fully assembled and just for display purposes.
I would have no problem with a law that says all firearms have to be locked. ... you can have it on your person on a holster but when you take it off it needs to go in a safe.
I have been criticized for showing my then 10 year old how my (competition) shotgun works, its safety features, how to handle it, how to secure it. "Making my son a gun nut" was the phrase thrown around.
I'm pretty liberal in general, but this sort of mentality is insane. Showing my son safe use of real things in the real world is being a "nut" now? It isn't clear how this is being less safe than pretending guns don't exist, then dealing with the fallout of a child playing with something they don't understand if one falls in their hands.
I also show him to cut away from his hands when helping in the kitchen, to wear glasses when using power tools, and wash his hands before handling food.
This makes me a knife nut, a tool nut, and maybe a soap nut.
It's no one else's business how you raise your kids.