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7900 GTO now out for $250 - 7900 GTX in disguise?
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I just pulled the trigger on this http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=512-P2-N573-AR
512 MB EVGA with 1.2 ns memory 259.99 Shipped from Zipzoomfly.
512 MB EVGA with 1.2 ns memory 259.99 Shipped from Zipzoomfly.
Silus said:
You're actually wrong about that and I'm not quite sure where ppl keep getting that info. The reverse is true. The GTO actually has the faster memory (1.2ns), whereas the GT is using 1.4ns (NVIDIA's reference design is clocked at 700MHz exactly and 1.4ns is rated at ~715MHz).
Like I said, calling this card the deal of a lifetime is an understatement because you're getting a GTX (since 800MHz on the memory is within 1.2ns' max spec: 833MHz, you're pretty much guaranteed to hit it) for $250 (less if you've got a decent card to sell on eBay).
jcll2002 said:
Lol, I don't think they mean obsolete in the traditional sense, but rather that the 7900 GT/X and 7950 GT are obsolete because no one in their right mind would buy one when you've got the GTO priced the way it is and almost guaranteed to hit GTX memory speeds.
I am almost 100% sure that the eVGA 7900 GT KO 512 MB version also uses the same chip as any 7900GTX's out there.
Right now, I'm overclocking it at 650 MHz with stock voltage (although it cannot go any higher). With the stock single-slot cooler, this 7900GT reaches over 90 degrees Celsius under load at 620 MHz, so I had to slap a Zalman CNPS6000A CPU heatsink on this card in order to cool it down to 60 degrees and be able to overclock it to 650 MHz stable without any artifacting. There are two fans attached to a Zalman bracket, blowing directly across this beautiful flower heatsink.
The memory is also overclocked to 1600 MHz (could reach 1650 max., but it gets HOT!!!). I'd rather run it at just below the maximum for guaranteed stability and guaranteed artifact-free performance in *any* games that I might come across later on.
It seems that on one hand the voltage has been slightly decreased, or on the other hand, the chip was a "bad" 7900GTX that did not run at say, 690 MHz. Supposedly, I would guess that eVGA tests its cards at slightly higher clock speeds in order to ensure that they have some headroom (especially if it sells "overclocked" versions).
Right now, I'm overclocking it at 650 MHz with stock voltage (although it cannot go any higher). With the stock single-slot cooler, this 7900GT reaches over 90 degrees Celsius under load at 620 MHz, so I had to slap a Zalman CNPS6000A CPU heatsink on this card in order to cool it down to 60 degrees and be able to overclock it to 650 MHz stable without any artifacting. There are two fans attached to a Zalman bracket, blowing directly across this beautiful flower heatsink.
The memory is also overclocked to 1600 MHz (could reach 1650 max., but it gets HOT!!!). I'd rather run it at just below the maximum for guaranteed stability and guaranteed artifact-free performance in *any* games that I might come across later on.
It seems that on one hand the voltage has been slightly decreased, or on the other hand, the chip was a "bad" 7900GTX that did not run at say, 690 MHz. Supposedly, I would guess that eVGA tests its cards at slightly higher clock speeds in order to ensure that they have some headroom (especially if it sells "overclocked" versions).
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Bo_Fox said:I am almost 100% sure that the eVGA 7900 GT KO 512 MB version also uses the same chip as any 7900GTX's out there.
Right now, I'm overclocking it at 650 MHz with stock voltage (although it cannot go any higher). With the stock single-slot cooler, this 7900GT reaches over 90 degrees Celsius under load at 620 MHz, so I had to slap a Zalman CNPS6000A CPU heatsink on this card in order to cool it down to 60 degrees and be able to overclock it to 650 MHz stable without any artifacting. There are two fans attached to a Zalman bracket, blowing directly across this beautiful flower heatsink.
The memory is also overclocked to 1600 MHz (could reach 1650 max., but it gets HOT!!!). I'd rather run it at just below the maximum for guaranteed stability and guaranteed artifact-free performance in *any* games that I might come across later on.
It seems that on one hand the voltage has been slightly decreased, or on the other hand, the chip was a "bad" 7900GTX that did not run at say, 690 MHz. Supposedly, I would guess that eVGA tests its cards at slightly higher clock speeds in order to ensure that they have some headroom (especially if it sells "overclocked" versions).
Thanks for that info. I've got the 256MB version, and a reviewer at newegg said they hit 680/1800 at stock voltage. This seems incredible to me. Do I have a 7900 GTX disguised as a 7900 GT? Link to card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130033
BTW, I bought mine for $244 w/rebate.
Bo_Fox said:I am almost 100% sure that the eVGA 7900 GT KO 512 MB version also uses the same chip as any 7900GTX's out there.
Right now, I'm overclocking it at 650 MHz with stock voltage (although it cannot go any higher). With the stock single-slot cooler, this 7900GT reaches over 90 degrees Celsius under load at 620 MHz, so I had to slap a Zalman CNPS6000A CPU heatsink on this card in order to cool it down to 60 degrees and be able to overclock it to 650 MHz stable without any artifacting. There are two fans attached to a Zalman bracket, blowing directly across this beautiful flower heatsink.
The memory is also overclocked to 1600 MHz (could reach 1650 max., but it gets HOT!!!). I'd rather run it at just below the maximum for guaranteed stability and guaranteed artifact-free performance in *any* games that I might come across later on.
It seems that on one hand the voltage has been slightly decreased, or on the other hand, the chip was a "bad" 7900GTX that did not run at say, 690 MHz. Supposedly, I would guess that eVGA tests its cards at slightly higher clock speeds in order to ensure that they have some headroom (especially if it sells "overclocked" versions).
You're right about the KO. EVGA's spec sheet says they use memory at 1.2ns (same as the GTXs, though I believe the GTXs used 1.1ns at one point). The beauty about the GTO is that she's already clocked at 650MHz with a more than adequate cooler, so the only work that would have to be done is the memory and, again, it's pretty much guaranteed to hit 1600MHz like yours did.
Silus said:
You're still wrong GTO PDF says 1.2ns, same as GTX. Same HSF , same PCB.. Like I said these are GTX's that would'nt move.
Those who say deal of lifetime? close but we are getting near end of this product cycle.
Ayone kow how quiet fan is? Silent? Low RPM? I want two to replace GX2 that is noisy.
Silus said:
Ok, this is a cold, hard fact: the GTOs use 1.2ns memory. The 7900/7950 GTs use 1.4ns memory. Yes, the GTO, at stock, is clocked at GT memory speeds. But the actual memory on the board is rated at 1.2ns (800/1600MHz). Look at the spec sheets:
EVGA 7900 GT: http://evga.com/products/pdf/256-P2-N580.pdf ; 1.4ns (715MHz)
EVGA 7950 GT: http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P2-N633.pdf ; 1.4ns (715MHz
EVGA 7900 GTO: http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P2-N573.pdf ; 1.2ns (833MHz)
Tightline, from what I understand, the fan is extremely silent. I still would say this is a deal of a lifetime though, as I can't say I'm looking forward to DX10 cards given all the rumors
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as you shoulddak125 said:I ordered one 2nd day from ZZF. I'm looking forward to it
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Grr.. Should I ditch my card and get one of those and go SLI in the future... Ugh..
Ardrid said:Tightline, from what I understand, the fan is extremely silent. I still would say this is a deal of a lifetime though, as I can't say I'm looking forward to DX10 cards given all the rumors
Yeah but you could have had GTX type performance for 4 months now for $229AR on various 7900GT's with a vmod and OC. To me even though I never own one but saw many happy results this was deal of lifetime. I mean performing at GTX and XTX levels when those two were selling for $450+ for half the price.
tightline said:
True enough, but there's always the extra work needed in that case (and the fact that you may not get the speeds you want) and as I tend not to overclock, it wouldn't have been worth it to me. In this case, however, we're talking about a card that already has the GTX's core speed by default and is using memory rated at 833MHz. In my mind, I'm not overclocking since I'm simply bring the memory up to spec ;D. Saving $150 compared to what most GTXs are going for now doesn't hurt either.
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Wonder why Newegg doesn't have them yet?
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But Newegg lets me ship to my work address- too much of a hassle with ZZF and MWave. Wife still thinks I'm running a Pentium 3
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Diseaseboy said:But Newegg lets me ship to my work address- too much of a hassle with ZZF and MWave. Wife still thinks I'm running a Pentium 3
LMAO, you wuss!
*looks to see if girlfriend is around..*
She's gonna kill me when she finds out about that 7950GX2 I bought.
Ardrid said:Ok, this is a cold, hard fact: the GTOs use 1.2ns memory. The 7900/7950 GTs use 1.4ns memory. Yes, the GTO, at stock, is clocked at GT memory speeds. But the actual memory on the board is rated at 1.2ns (800/1600MHz). Look at the spec sheets:
EVGA 7900 GT: http://evga.com/products/pdf/256-P2-N580.pdf ; 1.4ns (715MHz)
EVGA 7950 GT: http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P2-N633.pdf ; 1.4ns (715MHz
EVGA 7900 GTO: http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P2-N573.pdf ; 1.2ns (833MHz)
Tightline, from what I understand, the fan is extremely silent. I still would say this is a deal of a lifetime though, as I can't say I'm looking forward to DX10 cards given all the rumors
Ok, then it seems I was wrong. I read about the 1.4 ns in a couple of sites. Guess it was not true afterall.
Then it is an even better deal. It's a 7900 GTX in disguise, no doubt.
From official MSI German website:
Chiptakt: 650 MHz
Speichertakt: 1320 MHz DDR3 256-Bit
Speicherzugriffszeit: 1,1 ns
Pixel Pipelines: 24
Vertex Shader: 8
http://www.msi-technology.de/produkte/graf_idx_view.php?Prod_id=622
I should get mine this week. I just hope my PSU is enough, I have old Nexus NX-4090 ATX 1.3 version.
Chiptakt: 650 MHz
Speichertakt: 1320 MHz DDR3 256-Bit
Speicherzugriffszeit: 1,1 ns
Pixel Pipelines: 24
Vertex Shader: 8
http://www.msi-technology.de/produkte/graf_idx_view.php?Prod_id=622
I should get mine this week. I just hope my PSU is enough, I have old Nexus NX-4090 ATX 1.3 version.
These are just like the 6800 LE cards they released in that generation. It was simply a failed 6800U they downclocked. So, the 7900GTO is intended to be a GTX but does not make the grade. Usually from bad memory. So, underclock the memory and you have a "new" product. Makes for a great deal.
Here's another reason to upgrade...
Tigerdirect has the card for 229$ AR + shipping...
GO GET EM!!!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-8Xl6g.f_H8WMYTNbwmsrwg
Tigerdirect has the card for 229$ AR + shipping...
GO GET EM!!!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-8Xl6g.f_H8WMYTNbwmsrwg
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uniwarp said:x1900xt is a beast and perhaps the most power hungry single core graphics card out there...
according to xbitlabs
This is one of the reasons I didn't buy one. The other reason was that in most games, even a slightly overclocked 7900 GT beats it. The HDR+AA argument is valid for the x1900xt, but few games use it and it does take a performance hit.
Right now I'd get the 7900 GTO because it's a steal.