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XdVeLoPeX

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i have a asus p7p55d-E LX motherboard bios 1501
Marvel 88se91xx 1.0.0.25 bios as per my post screen
in windows 7 ultimate 64bit my driver is mv9123 (1.0.0.42)

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left is benchmark from online right is my drive what gives.. tried switching ports and diff. cables
 
What drive do you have? Did you run the test with no other applications running?


Also, no current mechanical drive is able to take advantage of SATA 3Gb, much less SATA 6Gb.
 
You need to get a SSD to take advantage of the faster transfer speeds. Even then the limiting factor is the hard drive speed capabilities whether it is mechanical or solid state.
 
i have the wd 1002faex with asus supplied motherboard sata3 6gb cable runnin pci-e x1 5gb

what i dont understand is why is my drive WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME DRIVE being tested in those benchmarks perform way worse in all areas..
 
the benches are usually marketing hype using the perfect system in a perfect software environment, where yours is real life. You could probably squeeze a little more speed out but not much.
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
left is benchmark from online right is my drive what gives.. tried switching ports and diff. cables
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Left it shows 932GB, yours shows 931GB, so there's a system partition on the disk as well.

Any chance there's OS activity going on on that drive during the benchmark, or even an alignment issue?

I'm curious if the drive benchmarks identical on your system if it's not a system drive.
 
Looks like there's usage. Something is causing the HDTune bench to have those 5 dips of transfer rates.
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
A little more speed? dude i want to rip my hair out 2.2mb COME THE FCK ON NOW.......

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If you look at your graph, that minimum is where the line dips down severely. It's because another application or service accessed the drive during the test or another process needed the system's resources and the test application had to wait it's turn. It's not indicative of the actual speed of the drive. The test you're looking at on the left looks to be a sterile environment with only the test running and nothing else with the target drive being completely unused (i.e. no applications or OS installed on it).
 
yes the drive i am benchmarking is my system drive and no i dont have any programs open aside from what i cant close from system..
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
yes the drive i am benchmarking is my system drive and no i dont have any programs open aside from what i cant close from system..
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it's kinda hard to shutdown windows when you're running windows..
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
yes the drive i am benchmarking is my system drive and no i dont have any programs open aside from what i cant close from system..
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Well then thats it. Stop worrying about the performance then. As others have said, since you're using that drive as your system drive, of course the benchmarked speeds will be significantly lower. But the performance is still there. You didn't lose any performance at all. It's now being used by the OS, services, apps, etc.

So unless you want run an entire OS from RAM so that it doesn't touch your hard drive, don't worry about the speeds.
 
well i was jus trying to figure out if it was my system or what lols.. im geting my hands on another drive what is fastest raid setup? or should i leave them non raid..
 
and this is all me trying to figure it out cause wow is stuttering aswell as almos anything i ido!!1
 
I would take a look a the SMART data and see if there are any Current Pending Sectors or Offline Uncorectable Sectors. At work I have seen a few disks have these errors for sectors that were not written to by me and after writing to the sectors all is well.
 
I agree with the above posters. Your expectation should be that a new SATA III drive will perform about as well as a SATA2 drive from an IO perspective. That's a start. The bench looks pretty jaggy, so I would go into your task manager and kill anything that's not important. Also check the system performance tab and look at what progs are digging into your disk and kill them. I would also hunt around for any driver updates that might be built or pending for your chipset. If it's intel do a search for beta drivers and see what they are fixing. Lastly, you should run a drive fitness test (long) just to be sure that the drive is working correctly.
 
how do i test this drive what can i use to compare as that other benchmark will never be the same since this has a os on it
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
well i was jus trying to figure out if it was my system or what lols.. im geting my hands on another drive what is fastest raid setup? or should i leave them non raid..
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In your case, leave it out of RAID.
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and this is all me trying to figure it out cause wow is stuttering aswell as almos anything i ido!!1
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Do a fresh reformat and reinstall
XdVeLoPeX said:
how do i test this drive what can i use to compare as that other benchmark will never be the same since this has a os on it
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Test it on another PC
 
dont have another pc and wiling to reinstall only if thats for sure going to be it.. noticing i have 2gb of memory running in sngle channel and when wow isi open itis taing up about 86% of it the game stutters in dalaran and in instances while in dal so many actions their liek 46fps and it drop to 30/19 then back up spikesys and in insatnces 180 to like 130ish n whatever
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
dont have another pc and wiling to reinstall only if thats for sure going to be it.. noticing i have 2gb of memory running in sngle channel and when wow isi open itis taing up about 86% of it the game stutters in dalaran and in instances while in dal so many actions their liek 46fps and it drop to 30/19 then back up spikesys and in insatnces 180 to like 130ish n whatever
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What video card and cpu do you have? Those are going to impact your game more than the hard drive will. Also, how many memory modules do you have. and in which slots are they? For dual channel, you have to have at least two modules with one in each blue slot.
 
i5 760 overclocked to 4ghz stable ibt/p95 and GTX 460 overclocked to 820/900

World of WarCraft: Retail Build (build 13329)

Exe: C:\Games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
Time: Dec 20, 2010 1:01:29.469 PM
User: dVeLoPe
Computer: DVELOPE-PC
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This application has encountered a critical error:

ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception
Program: C:\Games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
Exception: 0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:6F1C6C23

The instruction at "0x6F1C6C23" referenced memory at "0x00000000".
The memory could not be "read".
 
could this be a memory issue? if i try to even tab thru a few inter net explorer pages while wow is runnin in backround my mem is at 89% used slowwwww
 
Just fyi, 6Gb SATA-III is 600MB/s half-duplex, and 3Gb SATA-II is 300MB/s half-duplex.

The others are right OP, no mechanical drive can take full advantage of SATA-II, let alone SAS or SATA-III.

Only a SSD can even begin to saturate those standards.
 
yes i only have 2gb of ram at the moment.. i realize what ur saying about ssd being teh only one to utilize sata3 well thats fine but i ruled out the wow stutering issue from it being my video card, turned all settings down to LOW and it still was stuttering... has to be my drive? how can i figure this out its getting really annoying!!!
 
drescherjm said:
Could have been a run out memory + swap issue.
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This.

Leave your hard drive alone and buy some more RAM. 2GB is way too low for running WoW + IE w/ multiple tabs + Win 7 + whatever else you are running. As a result, your system is running out of memory and transferring the contents of RAM back and forth to your hard drive. This causes the choppiness that you are experiencing. Everything else in your system is fine for WoW, so send Newegg some money, get some more RAM (preferably from a reputable company) and you should be fine.

Also, make sure your GTX460 is running the latest stable drivers.
 
hard drives really dont cause issues like you are having. all active program files are read into RAM. as long as the data is not corrupted, all a slow hard drive would cause is increased time sitting at the loading screen. it would not really cause video stuttering.

low RAM could. and that BSOD you had was a RAM issue. possibly from overclocking, or possibly from buying off-brand crappy memory to begin with.
 
well i noticed its not just in wow with a few windows of ie open black ops also was stuttering... im getting anotehr wd soon should i raid them or is that not possible due to lacking tler or whatever? have 2x 6gb ports on my mobo
 
XdVeLoPeX said:
well i noticed its not just in wow with a few windows of ie open black ops also was stuttering... im getting anotehr wd soon should i raid them or is that not possible due to lacking tler or whatever? have 2x 6gb ports on my mobo
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Your problem isn't the hard drive. You need more memory. Your last post does nothing but prove that point. The issue you're having is that your running out of room in RAM. That makes the system take data that's not been used recently and send it to the hard drive. At a certain point, programs are having their data swapped to and from the drive as each one needs it.

Another drive is not going to make up for the massive difference in speed between the ram and hard drives. We're talking access times nanoseconds vs milliseconds, and throughput of up to 40 GB/s vs at best a couple hundred megabytes per second.
 
I won't do WoW with 2GB of memory... especially if you consider the OS's memory footprint and the shit-ton of unoptimised UI/Mods for WoW.

Get up to at least 4GB, you'll experience less stuttering on WoW.
 
whas funny is i run it on my 3.2ghz core 2 duo with 2 gb ddr2 and the gtx 460 max setting no stutters...
 
well your right and wrong.. a friend lent me one of his ocz modules cause i was confusedon which ram to buy when i bought my cpu/mobo.. im gettin another drive today and wil pos results of the same test cept wihtout an os on it
 
Did you ever look at the SMART data with a program like CrystalDiskInfo?

This will tell you if the drive believes there is something wrong with it. All SATA drives have a table of SMART data that the drive keeps statistics on how many times it is reallocating sectors, how many times the drive needed to resend data (bad cable) ...
 
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i used WDLR or w.e it is the WD stock one and it passed the test and diskinfo is ::

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CrystalDiskInfo 3.9.3 (C) 2008-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
Date : 2010/12/22 17:36:13

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- ATA Channel 0 (0) [ATA]
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+ Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 3B20 [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
+ ATA Channel 1 (1)
- PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 ATA Device
+ Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
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+ Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 3B26 [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
- ATA Channel 1 (1)
+ Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller [SCSI]
- WDC WD10 02FAEX-00Z3A0 SCSI Disk Device

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