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I agree on overpriced, but I sure as hell won't submit a bogus 1 star review to bitch about it :D
 

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A lot of people are complaining, but lets be real - most aren't content creators with heavily multithreaded workloads. Yeah it's expensive and overpriced, but so are Quadros, Xeons, Phis, Tesla, etc... It's aimed at a specific market.
 

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A lot of people are complaining, but lets be real - most aren't content creators with heavily multithreaded workloads. Yeah it's expensive and overpriced, but so are Quadros, Xeons, Phis, Tesla, etc... It's aimed at a specific market.
So bogus reviews are dumb, but this is aimed at no market. If you need a cpu with that many threads you are going to be looking at a cheaper Xeon.
 

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If you need a cpu with that many threads you are going to be looking at a cheaper Xeon.
Which one has 10 cores and a clock speed that high? The E5-2687W v4 is clocked the same. Higher core count (12 cores) but the cost is a little higher at $2141 MSRP. So some napkin math tells me that's $177 per core. Multiply that by 10 and you have $1770, which is in-line with the 6950X's pricetag.

Next closest Xeon is the E5-2667 which is clocked at 3.2GHz, but only has 8 cores and costs a bit over $2000.

All the rest of the Xeons either cost way more, or are clocked way lower.
 

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Which one has 10 cores and a clock speed that high? The E5-2687W v4 is clocked the same. Higher core count (12 cores) but the cost is a little higher at $2141 MSRP. So some napkin math tells me that's $177 per core. Multiply that by 10 and you have $1770, which is in-line with the 6950X's pricetag.

Next closest Xeon is the E5-2667 which is clocked at 3.2GHz, but only has 8 cores and costs a bit over $2000.

All the rest of the Xeons either cost way more, or are clocked way lower.
My point was not that they are cheaper, should have made that clear, but that the people who need a cpu like the 6950 need the features of a server/workstation like cpue like ECM memory and dual cpu builds.
 

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Amazon reviews on tech, especially high end are a fucking drag often. Many times it's someone trying to be funny, with the same, lame ass, recycled crap I've seen on other products.

'now I don't need my wife/enough power to become a super power/I sold my house/dog/car for this and it's worth it/plays minesweeper fastest' blah blah fuckoff ya cunts.
 

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This processor is 3-5 years ahead of its time. by the time games start using 6+ cores something will be out that is far cheaper and twice as fast for gaming.
 

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My point was not that they are cheaper, should have made that clear, but that the people who need a cpu like the 6950 need the features of a server/workstation like cpue like ECM memory and dual cpu builds.

But again, Xeons completely lack the single threaded prowess that the i7-6950X has when overclocked. Also, many multi-threaded tasks don't scale well to dual CPUs and function best with one CPU that has many cores. The combination of high clocks and a decent number of cores makes the i7-6950X a very compelling solution for many people.

Amazon reviews on tech, especially high end are a fucking drag often. Many times it's someone trying to be funny, with the same, lame ass, recycled crap I've seen on other products.

'now I don't need my wife/enough power to become a super power/I sold my house/dog/car for this and it's worth it/plays minesweeper fastest' blah blah fuckoff ya cunts.

Most of those people want one of these processors badly, but can't afford one, so they feel fulfilled by crapping on it.

This processor is 3-5 years ahead of its time. by the time games start using 6+ cores something will be out that is far cheaper and twice as fast for gaming.

For the last time, this...processor....is...NOT...meant....for....gaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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But again, Xeons completely lack the single threaded prowess that the i7-6950X has when overclocked. Also, many multi-threaded tasks don't scale well to dual CPUs and function best with one CPU that has many cores. The combination of high clocks and a decent number of cores makes the i7-6950X a very compelling solution for many people.
No the programs people are suing in video editing, CAD, or 3D modeling are all designed with multi-threading and multi processors in mind. This chip is just an epeen chip for intel nothing more. There are also some design differences that do not make this a practical workstation CPU, so my point stand too expensive for a PC enthusiast or say a small business video editor and not enough for a workstation or professional PC (ie.. lacks features found in xeon chips).
 

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But again, Xeons completely lack the single threaded prowess that the i7-6950X has when overclocked. Also, many multi-threaded tasks don't scale well to dual CPUs and function best with one CPU that has many cores. The combination of high clocks and a decent number of cores makes the i7-6950X a very compelling solution for many people.



Most of those people want one of these processors badly, but can't afford one, so they feel fulfilled by crapping on it.



For the last time, this...processor....is...NOT...meant....for....gaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No shit...
 

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No the programs people are suing in video editing, CAD, or 3D modeling are all designed with multi-threading and multi processors in mind. This chip is just an epeen chip for intel nothing more. There are also some design differences that do not make this a practical workstation CPU, so my point stand too expensive for a PC enthusiast or say a small business video editor and not enough for a workstation or professional PC (ie.. lacks features found in xeon chips).

You'd better hurry over to this thread and offer your wisdom then...

$7,000 Workstation Build. Thoughts?

Not ALL professional programs benefit from multiple physical processors...some programs prefer one CPU with many cores.

No shit...

Many people in many threads have crapped on the i7-6950X for not being the fastest gaming option. Yes, the processor is ahead of its time....for gaming...but for the desired market and user group, this processor is very welcome. However, it could have been offered quite a while ago (and much more powerful solutions could very easily be offered today if Intel would simply unlock a couple of the top Xeon SKUs). The i7-6950X, offers good multi-threaded performance AND can also do some gaming (with little performance loss) if and when needed. It offers the best of both worlds...good performance in both single and multi-threaded emvironments...and right now the i7-6950X is the chip that bridges this gap the best. There are chips that offer better single-threaded performance (like the i7-6700K) and better multi-threaded performance (HCC Xeons) but none offer the exceptional combination of good performance in both worlds that the i7-6950X does when overclocked.
 

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This thread hilarious thanks for the entertainment on the 6950x . I have one for sale cheap
 

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You'd better hurry over to this thread and offer your wisdom then...

$7,000 Workstation Build. Thoughts?

Not ALL professional programs benefit from multiple physical processors...some programs prefer one CPU with many cores.



Many people in many threads have crapped on the i7-6950X for not being the fastest gaming option. Yes, the processor is ahead of its time....for gaming...but for the desired market and user group, this processor is very welcome. However, it could have been offered quite a while ago (and much more powerful solutions could very easily be offered today if Intel would simply unlock a couple of the top Xeon SKUs). The i7-6950X, offers good multi-threaded performance AND can also do some gaming (with little performance loss) if and when needed. It offers the best of both worlds...good performance in both single and multi-threaded emvironments...and right now the i7-6950X is the chip that bridges this gap the best. There are chips that offer better single-threaded performance (like the i7-6700K) and better multi-threaded performance (HCC Xeons) but none offer the exceptional combination of good performance in both worlds that the i7-6950X does when overclocked.
They would be better off buying a workstation from Dell or HP
 

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My server machine in my sig was only $750 (in the end it actually only cost me $400. bought a Dell for $400 and sold it for $750 and bought the Intel rig with the money)

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I heard a 65 dollar xenon few years back will get the job done if someone needs multitasking processor. Is this true?
 

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You'd better hurry over to this thread and offer your wisdom then...

$7,000 Workstation Build. Thoughts?

Not ALL professional programs benefit from multiple physical processors...some programs prefer one CPU with many cores.



Many people in many threads have crapped on the i7-6950X for not being the fastest gaming option. Yes, the processor is ahead of its time....for gaming...but for the desired market and user group, this processor is very welcome. However, it could have been offered quite a while ago (and much more powerful solutions could very easily be offered today if Intel would simply unlock a couple of the top Xeon SKUs). The i7-6950X, offers good multi-threaded performance AND can also do some gaming (with little performance loss) if and when needed. It offers the best of both worlds...good performance in both single and multi-threaded emvironments...and right now the i7-6950X is the chip that bridges this gap the best. There are chips that offer better single-threaded performance (like the i7-6700K) and better multi-threaded performance (HCC Xeons) but none offer the exceptional combination of good performance in both worlds that the i7-6950X does when overclocked.

Actually that rig ended up around $8200 dollars. I agree, the 6950x is overpriced but it's also unique. AMD can't touch it and Xeons aren't necessarily going to be any cheaper and they aren't really overclockable. It's way overkill for gaming but can hold it's own nicely when overclocked. The "only" problem with this CPU is that it's generally perceived as overpriced since top line consumer Extreme CPUs usually come it around $1k and this is 70% over that. But it's still a fantastic chip. For most it's way more money and CPU than you'll ever need, indeed that's my case. I just wanted to one to go with everything else in this new build and so far so good. Really the thing I'm regretting the most with this build isn't the 6950x, it's the dual 1080s. Just lots of issues with it and Surround thus far. And the latest nVidia drivers really screwed some stuff up. I'm actually only running one card now and thinking about selling them if a Titan P really is coming out next month.
 

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For 1700.00 for a piece of silicone sand this thing should be making you breakfast, lunch and dinner
 

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For 1700.00 for a piece of silicone sand this thing should be making you breakfast, lunch and dinner

The material in semiconductors isn't what makes them valuable. It's the engineering process, one of the most complex and sophisticated in human technology.
 

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The material in semiconductors isn't what makes them valuable. It's the engineering process, one of the most complex and sophisticated in human technology.

Really ? You know the 6950x is already obsolete. Someone leaked info at nvidia and they are laughing the fact the 6950x is a waste of cash because the next video card will be 50% faster than the 1080 and the 6950x is going to be a big bottleneck .
 

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Really ? You know the 6950x is already obsolete. Someone leaked info at nvidia and they are laughing the fact the 6950x is a waste of cash because the next video card will be 50% faster than the 1080 and the 6950x is going to be a big bottleneck .

Well that'd mean that pretty much every CPU is obsolete and would bottleneck such a card. Which if it's coming out next month then that sounds like a big problem for nVidia. It's seriously hard to imagine how running games at 4k with max settings is going to be CPU bound even with such a card.
 

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Certainly not great bang for the buck especially for what you paid. But not a slouchy machine either.

The real benefit to the i7-6950X is that at 4.3 GHz, the it'll beat the dual E5-2670 in multi-threaded applications AND not be the complete dog in single threaded apps that the E5-2670 is. The i7-6950X truly offers the best of both worlds and having one machine instead of two makes it well worth the price. All it needs, in my opinion, is ECC support and dual-CPU capability and it would be perfect.

Really ? You know the 6950x is already obsolete. Someone leaked info at nvidia and they are laughing the fact the 6950x is a waste of cash because the next video card will be 50% faster than the 1080 and the 6950x is going to be a big bottleneck .

I truly do hope that the i7-6950X DOES end up bottlenecking the Titan P. Such a reality (if it actually ends up coming to pass) would be a good motivator for an even more powerful successor to the i7-6950X to take it's place. Intel doesn't do anything without a VERY good reason and having the i7-6950X be a bottleneck would actually be a very good reason for them to have to up the ante.
 

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The real benefit to the i7-6950X is that at 4.3 GHz, the it'll beat the dual E5-2670 in multi-threaded applications AND not be the complete dog in single threaded apps that the E5-2670 is. The i7-6950X truly offers the best of both worlds and having one machine instead of two makes it well worth the price. All it needs, in my opinion, is ECC support and dual-CPU capability and it would be perfect.

I agree, it's the combination of cores and clock speed that do make this an interesting CPU.

I truly do hope that the i7-6950X DOES end up bottlenecking the Titan P. Such a reality (if it actually ends up coming to pass) would be a good motivator for an even more powerful successor to the i7-6950X to take it's place. Intel doesn't do anything without a VERY good reason and having the i7-6950X be a bottleneck would actually be a very good reason for them to have to up the ante.

Interesting way to look at it but not gonna happen. While I've been very unhappy with SLI scaling in most games I've tried surprisingly CoD Black Ops III scales close to 100% and 6950x doesn't seem to be anywhere near working hard to push 2 1080s to do that. With the focus now on threading in Vulkan and DX 12 I don't see a 6950x being a bottleneck for then gen of GPUs from nVidia which only support 2x SLI.
 

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Interesting way to look at it but not gonna happen. While I've been very unhappy with SLI scaling in most games I've tried surprisingly CoD Black Ops III scales close to 100% and 6950x doesn't seem to be anywhere near working hard to push 2 1080s to do that. With the focus now on threading in Vulkan and DX 12 I don't see a 6950x being a bottleneck for then gen of GPUs from nVidia which only support 2x SLI.

I agree, the i7-6950X is highly unlikely to bottleneck any video card anytime soon.
 

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I agree, the i7-6950X is highly unlikely to bottleneck any video card anytime soon.

in about 30 days we will have the titan pascal that is rumored to be 50% faster than a 1080 and faster than 980 ti in SLI

Also word from nvidia HQ has been leaked that they are laughing at people buying the 6950x
 

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I agree, it's the combination of cores and clock speed that do make this an interesting CPU.



Interesting way to look at it but not gonna happen. While I've been very unhappy with SLI scaling in most games I've tried surprisingly CoD Black Ops III scales close to 100% and 6950x doesn't seem to be anywhere near working hard to push 2 1080s to do that. With the focus now on threading in Vulkan and DX 12 I don't see a 6950x being a bottleneck for then gen of GPUs from nVidia which only support 2x SLI.


When you run two Titan P's in SLI yeah you will have a bottleneck at the CPU. Sorry but your processors IPC is about 2-3 years old and has barely any improvement over a regular haswell released in 2013. Basically this is why Intel never released the broadwell as a mainstream processor line at the stores because broadwell sucks compared to skylake. The 6950x is only good for computational tasks , cad , adobe premier, encoding blurays etc.
I cant see DX 12 games being released this year to take advantage of more than 4 cores. By the time games do arrive intel will release a 6-8 core variant as the new i7 for 400 bucks that will be way faster than skylake and will make your 6950x look like today's $65.00 8 core xenon . If you are professional who needs computational tasks done fast or a professional video editior then this is great for you since it will save you time and money to get your finished product done and out to the customer. I would not be bragging about this processor as a gamer or someone who thinks this processor will last you 2-3 years and give you great gaming performance.
 
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Sure, the people that are most able to afford a Titan they're laughing at.

In the long run if you are a gamer the titan Pascal is a better investment than the 6950x . I can not see anyone getting more than 50% of the cost of the 6950x about 800 dollars in 8 months. The titan P resale value will hold until the 1080i is released which could be spring 2017 about 8 months

Skylake-e will be released next quarter and the skylake successor cannonlake will be released with even better IPC for quad core gaming.
 

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Can anyone post evidence of future DX 12 games using multiple cores? The only good game i can think of is Star Citizen towards the end of 2016. By the time this is released I would think Cannon lake will destroy the 6950x in gaming benchmarks.

Here we go i7 8 cores. It is just funny people who bought the 6950x think they have the greatest newest technology from intel when in fact they have been working on cannonlake 8 cores 10 months ago and you know AMD Zen will make the 6950x drop like a rock in price. Intel is just milking the consumer and already has cannon lake locked up since early 2016 due to the fact AMD has nothing to challenge even a simple 4790k. Cannonlake was originally supposed to be released in Q4 2016 now will be a early 2017 release probably 1Q or 2Q 2017 with the Z180
We could see skylake refresh by christmas with 4 cores hitting 4.8-5ghz . I dont know seems like the haswell-e/broadwell-e is just old

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In the long run if you are a gamer the titan Pascal is a better investment than the 6950x . I can not see anyone getting more than 50% of the cost of the 6950x about 800 dollars in 8 months. The titan P resale value will hold until the 1080i is released which could be spring 2017 about 8 months

Skylake-e will be released next quarter and the skylake successor cannonlake will be released with even better IPC for quad core gaming.
The latest roadmap I saw showed that they're making some slight changes to the naming scheme:
Kabby Lake locked cpu arriving in Q4'16 along with the 200 series motherboard chipset (updating the Z170) on socket 1151.
Kabby Lake-X the delayed "unlocked K" processors arriving in Q2'17.
Skylake-X (6-10 core) arriving at the same time in Q2'17 on a new socket (LGA2066 R4) to replace Broadwell-E.
Cannonlake minor node shrink of kabbylake in late 2017, compatible with the 200 series chipset and z170 after a bios update (socket 1151).
 

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In the long run if you are a gamer the titan Pascal is a better investment than the 6950x . I can not see anyone getting more than 50% of the cost of the 6950x about 800 dollars in 8 months. The titan P resale value will hold until the 1080i is released which could be spring 2017 about 8 months

Skylake-e will be released next quarter and the skylake successor cannonlake will be released with even better IPC for quad core gaming.

Skylake-E will NOT be released next quarter, or the quarter after that. It's expected in Q217 at Computex, 10.5 months from now. In multi-threaded apps, the i7-6950X will completely destroy a quad-core Cannonlake, so people who use multi-threaded apps as well as game will still be well served by the i7-6950X or it's successor. Also, considering that the i7-6950X is the absolute pinnacle of Socket R3 processors (as long as you don't need ECC), they'll continue to command a healthy premium for years.


Can anyone post evidence of future DX 12 games using multiple cores? The only good game i can think of is Star Citizen towards the end of 2016. By the time this is released I would think Cannon lake will destroy the 6950x in gaming benchmarks.

Here we go i7 8 cores. It is just funny people who bought the 6950x think they have the greatest newest technology from intel when in fact they have been working on cannonlake 8 cores 10 months ago and you know AMD Zen will make the 6950x drop like a rock in price. Intel is just milking the consumer and already has cannon lake locked up since early 2016 due to the fact AMD has nothing to challenge even a simple 4790k. Cannonlake was originally supposed to be released in Q4 2016 now will be a early 2017 release probably 1Q or 2Q 2017 with the Z180
We could see skylake refresh by christmas with 4 cores hitting 4.8-5ghz . I dont know seems like the haswell-e/broadwell-e is just old

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You are just totally fixated on the i7-6950X and how it does in gaming, aren't you? I thought we established earlier that the i7-6950X is NOT being marketed as a gaming chip, so why the continual references to how the i7-6950X does in gaming and how it'll do against future chips in gaming? Gaming, gaming, gaming, gaming....it's all you have on the brain. Believe it or not, people actually do other tasks on their enthusiast-based systems OTHER than game. So let's rehash this again. The i7-6950X is NOT marketed as a gaming chip. Again, the i7-6950X is NOT marketed as a gaming chip. One more time...the i7-6950X is NOT marketed as a gaming chip!! Hopefully, this reality has now permeated your consciousness...:rolleyes:

As an owner of an i7-6950X, I don't give a rat's ass that it's not the fastest gaming chip and I'd imagine that few other i7-6950X owners care much either. What the i7-6950X CAN do is completely destroy anything short of an HCC Xeon on a one-on-one basis in multi-threaded apps and still do very well in single-threaded ones. The i7-6950X can save many people from having to build and maintain two separate high-end computers, not because they think it's the "greatest newest technology." This is why people are shelling out $1700 for these processors. Having everything under one roof is far more convenient and efficient, and increases in convenience and efficiency are directly proportional to higher earnings and productivity for many people. The ability of the i7-6950X to game decently when needed is a just a bonus.

Lastly, Zen is unlikely to change much in regards to the i7-6950X's price. One, as I mentioned above, it's the top Socket R3 processor and will be in demand for a long time. Two, it has two cores on Zen, which will easily make it more than a match for Zen. Three, it came out first, so those who own an i7-6950X are highly unlikely to make a lateral performance move to Zen. Four, Zen is unlikely to be available for purchase before February, as the latest rumor has it launching in January. Even if Zen performs well, the late Zen launch means people will likely wait until the end of Q1 to see Skylake-EP's offerings and then Computex to see what Skylake-E will offer before making a move. For Zen to have much impact on the i7-6950X, there would have to be a very compelling feature or performance reason for people to move to it and away from the i7-6950X, like say a overclockable, high core count Naples-based variant that was dual capable. But such a scenario is highly unlikely to materialize given AMD's very fragile financial position and inherent inability to devote the necessary resources to the launch of such a product.
 

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In the long run if you are a gamer the titan Pascal is a better investment than the 6950x . I can not see anyone getting more than 50% of the cost of the 6950x about 800 dollars in 8 months. The titan P resale value will hold until the 1080i is released which could be spring 2017 about 8 months

Skylake-e will be released next quarter and the skylake successor cannonlake will be released with even better IPC for quad core gaming.

Where did you get the idea that Skylake-E was coming next quarter?
 

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I have no idea how someone can be so mentally retarded and expect a 6950x do better than a 6700k in gaming. All the tech expertise here and people still do not seem to know how video games work. damn
 

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I have no idea how someone can be so mentally retarded and expect a 6950x do better than a 6700k in gaming. All the tech expertise here and people still do not seem to know how video games work. damn

yeah its pretty funny
maybe in 12 months we will see the 6950x or broadwell-e series make an improvement in DX 12 future games but for now it sucks. By this time we will see skylake successor arrive with even faster IPC and these chips costing 400.00-500.00 with 6-8 cores kabey lake late 2016 -mid 2017
Skylake-e will blow the doors off haswell-e.

so in all reality the 6950x is a ripp off unless you need this chip for professional use to save time and money working on cad programs etc.
 
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so in all reality the 6950x is a ripp off unless you need this chip for professional use to save time and money working on cad programs etc.
No, you're stupid if you buy the 6950x unless you want to use it for work or specific multi-threaded applications. Nobody forces anyone to buy it if they don't need it, so how is it a rip-off?
 

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Because gtx 1080s in sli along with a 6700k is a better deal and faster gaming system.
 
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