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At least we finally have competition. It'll be interesting to see a 3080 Super and/or TI. Hopefully this will force nvidia to stop sucking and actually start producing enough parts as well.My quick glance has 6800 XT a no-brainer buy over 3080 if you aren't running 4k or not running ray tracing. It is more complicated answer when 4k and ray tracing is benchmarked.
meh, it is Samsung who is sucking and producing parts.At least we finally have competition. It'll be interesting to see a 3080 Super and/or TI. Hopefully this will force nvidia to stop sucking and actually start producing enough parts as well.
And it is NVIDIA's fault for painting itself into a corner and Samsung being its only real solution for silicon fab.meh, it is Samsung who is sucking and producing parts.
I foresee VRAM quantity helping to answer the 4K comparison if you're considering the future capability of the 6800XTMy quick glance has 6800 XT a no-brainer buy over 3080 if you aren't running 4k or not running ray tracing. It is more complicated answer when 4k and ray tracing is benchmarked.
meh, it is Samsung who is sucking and producing parts.
I foresee VRAM quantity helping to answer the 4K comparison if you're considering the future capability of the 6800XT
Looking at the benchmarks (LegitReviews right now, trying to avoid the YouTube "reviews") it looks like it starts out pretty far behind Nvidia cards, but catches up as the resolution improves, to the point where it is pretty brilliant at 4k.
That is interesting.
https://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-and-radeon-rx-6800-review_223774/5
meh, it is Samsung who is sucking and producing parts.
nVidia picked em, nVidia launched, nVidia had all the decisions in their hand. Its nVidia who sucked at executing their launch and delivering product.
Of course some can't see the forest through the trees.
Depends on the game. In other games it's the exact opposite scenario.There are so many titles, and so many benchmarks, but I found those charts on LegitReviews interesting here.
At 1080p Ultra in FarCry 5 (the only game in they benchmark lineup I've actually played, so I skipped right to that one) the 6800xt actually falls behind a 2080 at 1080p, falls between a 2080ti and 3080 at 1440p, and falls between a 3080 and 3090 at 4k.
It seems to only climb in the ranks as the resolution goes up.
depends on the gameLooking at the benchmarks (LegitReviews right now, trying to avoid the YouTube "reviews") it looks like it starts out pretty far behind Nvidia cards, but catches up as the resolution improves, to the point where it is pretty brilliant at 4k.
That is interesting.
https://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-and-radeon-rx-6800-review_223774/5
That is what I said, nVidia made all the choices, yet some just can't fathom that they would be to blame.More than that, Nvidia could have chosen to launch greater quantities of slower parts based on yields and binning, but they decided to go straight for pretty high bins which has severely limited availability.
That is what I said, nVidia made all the choices, yet some just can't fathom that they would be to blame.
If that were true, then there would be a ton of slower chips available like the 3070. But those aren't in stock either.More than that, Nvidia could have chosen to launch greater quantities of slower parts based on yields and binning, but they decided to go straight for pretty high bins which has severely limited availability.
More likely the number of transistors packed in to be competitive this generation is pushing Samsung's 8nm fab. Ampere is a huge die. AMDs isn't exactly small either to be fair.... everyone is going to benefit from the next step down.If that were true, then there would be a ton of slower chips available like the 3070. But those aren't in stock either.
At least these are available and not a "paper launch" like Nvidia 3000 series. Right guys?
6800XT confirmed orderas selling briskly for $1500 on eBay
It's no longer Red vs Green, it's Us vs Supply
Which IMO makes it less of a no-brainer, which is a good thing IMO, I don't want to see one card that is drastically better/cheaper than another, then it becomes a no-brainer and when choice is removed from the equation the consumer historically does not win. Of course the cost shown are vs. FE pricing, and as we've seen many AIB cards can be significantly more expensive than the FE pricing and then it becomes a bit more of a no-brainer, but we don't know what AMD's version of AIB cards will price at either.My quick glance has 6800 XT a no-brainer buy over 3080 if you aren't running 4k or not running ray tracing. It is more complicated answer when 4k and ray tracing is benchmarked.
That's not true, some people did. The real question will be how quickly do these come back in-stock, versus Ampere.I see forum members picking some up today, on launch day, so yes they are at least available. AFAIK no forum members got the new nVidia cards on launch day.
That's not true, some people did. The real question will be how quickly do these come back in-stock, versus Ampere.
I can't recall a single person grabbing a 3080 on launch day, but thats going back a bit and I don't think the polll shows date answered.That's not true, some people did. The real question will be how quickly do these come back in-stock, versus Ampere.
So the question is, is 8GB of extra ram worth an extra $80? I'd say yes.... but that is just me.I am glad AMD was not lying in their press release. RX6800XT is kicking ass and they did not even need SAM to do it like some people were suggesting. Basic 6800 however, I can't hell but feel it is overpriced. I mean, it does offer 2080 Ti performance at half the price and would pretty much triple the performance that my GTX1080 has, but so would 3070 and do it 80 bucks cheaper. Yes AMD has 16gb which makes it more future proof but as of right now I can't help but to think that 3070 is a better deal. And as an added bonus you get more mature Raytracing too. RX6800XT really does mess the pricing model of Nvidia on the very high end. However I think vanilla RX6800 is not putting enough pressure on the lower high end market.
If AMD would release a 12gb (or even 8gb) version for cheaper then that would make things really interesting.
I think it was 2 in the first 24 hours IIRC.I can't recall a single person grabbing a 3080 on launch day, but thats going back a bit and I don't think the polll shows date answered.
So the question is, is 8GB of extra ram worth an extra $80? I'd say yes.... but that is just me.
IIRC I think, the latest watchdogs can/will use > 8G ram at 1080p, although I dont' have the reviews infront of me.I'd like to see the 16gb in action. Push the memory requirements of both cards as hard as possible (in a game that can actually utilize over 8gb VRAM) and see where 3070 starts to hiccup and if/when it does then how much is the performance difference between them in that situation.
I think it was 2 in the first 24 hours IIRC.