Windows Media player crashes started happening from day one? Or after codec installs? Any kind of plugin that could be causing it? What does the event viewer say?
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Windows Media player crashes started happening from day one? Or after codec installs? Any kind of plugin that could be causing it? What does the event viewer say?
Event Viewer says nothing because they are hard black screen freeze crashes with WMP, so it can't log the event.
I'll give you an example, I was watching a TV show in WMP, then I paused it and went to get something from my dresser, and as I was walking back to my computer, all of a sudden it just went to a black screen and the only way to get my comp back was a hard reboot.
I'll give you an example, I was watching a TV show in WMP, then I paused it and went to get something from my dresser, and as I was walking back to my computer, all of a sudden it just went to a black screen and the only way to get my comp back was a hard reboot.
Not yet.. soon hopefully.
Also, what PSU are you running? Have you tried clocking your system back to stock to see if makes any difference?
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I haven't had a gray screen with my 5870, but I recently bought the LucasArts pack from Steam and JKII: Jedi Outcast is freezing/crashing after about 10 minutes or so of play. I get a message on the desktop about VPU recovery or something. Anyone else have this problem? I'm guessing it's some sort of driver problem?
Sometimes after a freeze or grey/black screen crash, when I reboot and go back into Windows, certain Windows services like networking, or sound, or windows explorer will start crashing, and then my aero interface will go away.
Anyone had that happen? I can't stand these drivers anymore
Anyone had that happen? I can't stand these drivers anymore
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I have the same problem, see threads:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1473626
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1471798&page=2
Sometimes after a freeze or grey/black screen crash, when I reboot and go back into Windows, certain Windows services like networking, or sound, or windows explorer will start crashing, and then my aero interface will go away.
Anyone had that happen? I can't stand these drivers anymore
Windows services issues? I would start with clocking your system down to stock. I know that sucks but try running it at stock speeds and see if your issues go away.
How come I can pass 50 runs of LinX and 10 hours of Prime95 blend multiple times no problem then? My system was rock solid under Vista with my GTX 285, none of this started happening until I got Win 7 and the 5870.
Also the minute I uninstall the ATI drivers, all my crashing goes away and does not return until I install the ATI drivers again. I let it run with just the Windows default VGA driver installed for a couple days and had ZERO problems. How do you explain that?
Also the minute I uninstall the ATI drivers, all my crashing goes away and does not return until I install the ATI drivers again. I let it run with just the Windows default VGA driver installed for a couple days and had ZERO problems. How do you explain that?
My issues arise exclusively when I attach a second, non eyefinity based monitor. I used to get the grey screens when using one monitor, that's gone away and it is as solid and reliable as can be when using one monitor, overclocked to 925/1275. Attach a second monitor and you can expect 3+ Bsods throughout the day, all completely unrelated, overclocked or not.
zero hardware support and zero use of the video cards power. Some users have already stated when they installed their 5870 they had to down clock the machine. Its such an easy thing to check its worth a shot. No stress program can promise 100% stability if you pass it. Have you ran memtest etc? You have services crashing.. this changes some things. Gamed for 4 hours today... still not a single crash.. clocked 950/1275 now.
Try ATI Afterburner and setup the non official overclocking method to force 3d clocks all the time and see if your issues goes away.
Hmm I think the crash I had was due to Powerplay. The DiRT 2 drivers seem to have it disabled. My 5970 stays at stock clocks even on windows desktop with these drivers, at least according to GPU-Z, something that did not happen with the Beta 5 drivers. Explains my high idle temp (68 C).
What do you mean by zero hardware support and zero use of the video cards power? If I return the 5870 and get a GTX 285 and my problems disappear, without changing my CPU overclock, does that mean ATI just doesn't like my system?
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I think what he meant was that you don't get crashes with the windows drivers because the card isn't being fully supported or used in 3D mode. Idling at desktop isn't really a great test of system stability.
Just because your system doesn't crash at an overclocked speed with one video card, doesn't mean it's immune to a crash with another speed. You're not running the same driver code at all. Just because something runs Prime95 stable doesn't mean it's unstable in other areas. For example, 64-bit versus 32-bit. Virtualization. Driver code.
It's best for you just to test it at stock, and see what happens. How hard is that, tbh?
It's best for you just to test it at stock, and see what happens. How hard is that, tbh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Precision_Event_Timer
It's a component on your motherboard. Not as fine-grained as the TSC in the processor, but it remains unaffected by things such as power state changes and "turbo boost".
It's a component on your motherboard. Not as fine-grained as the TSC in the processor, but it remains unaffected by things such as power state changes and "turbo boost".
Well, is it the issue or is it not the issue? You're running at 4GHz, which is the very edge of Nehalem stability. How hard is it to back off the overclock, then come here and tell us that was the issue or not? If your video card runs solidly when EVERYTHING IS IN SPEC, and it doesn't run stably when it's out of spec, why blame the video card? Maybe even up the voltage some. You can troubleshoot the problem or not, or you can come here and complain about it. Just back down the video card - it takes 5 minutes, and see if you still have the issue. If you do, then you're right and I'm wrong. I don't mind being wrong. I'm just trying to help you out man.
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Also, you have no problem when you're not running the ATI driver, yes? So it's clearly not the card at fault. You have replaced your video card, and that didn't fix the problem. The fact that hardly anyone else is experiencing your exact issue must mean - your system is at fault.
Exactly. Do you even get Aero support with the default VGA driver?
Wow.. I wouldn't have done that but whatever floats your boat. I can't believe you didn't bother to try it at stock clock just to rule it out. When any component in a system changes stability with your clock can change as well. I would have at least tried stock clock or feed some more voltage to the CPU before returning the card. No way to trouble shoot it now.
No offence buddy, but you did what typical n00b will do. First you got to check PSU amps and if they are less then 40A (dedicated to PCI-E connectors) then your PSU is no good for HD5870 overclocking. Other members are telling you to run CPU on stock speed and the main reason is that it uses juice too (well beyond 100W when overclocked to 4GHz). People are having problems with 2xHD5970 on Gygabyte Odin 1200W PSU.
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PSU Enermax Modu82+ 625W should be enough if it is OK. Also Windows TDR events when playing AVC videos are driver issue that took ridiculously long time to be fixed. Do not use DXVA codecs for now with AVC coded videos, hardware acceleration is broken for them (works, but leads to Windows TDR events).
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I was running my current CPU overclock with a GTX 285 on Vista since July with zero problems.
I then switched to a 5870 and ran it for a month under Vista with zero problems using the same CPU overclock. (Using the Cat driver off the CD that came with the card)
Then I switched to Win 7 and retuned my CPU overclock, until I could pass LinX and Prime95 blend consistently over and over under Win 7, since it's more demanding than Vista. I installed the Cat 9.10 WHQL drivers after that and from then on everything went to hell.
So that's why I'm so firm in my belief that it was the ATI drivers that were causing all my woes.
I then switched to a 5870 and ran it for a month under Vista with zero problems using the same CPU overclock. (Using the Cat driver off the CD that came with the card)
Then I switched to Win 7 and retuned my CPU overclock, until I could pass LinX and Prime95 blend consistently over and over under Win 7, since it's more demanding than Vista. I installed the Cat 9.10 WHQL drivers after that and from then on everything went to hell.
So that's why I'm so firm in my belief that it was the ATI drivers that were causing all my woes.
What's wild is so many out there are not having this problem we are having. I understand your method of rechecking your overclock after loading Win7 but no stress test out there will guarantee 100% stability after passing it. Returning to stock clock could have easily ruled this all out. The crashing services thing is kinda strange for a video card to be causing. Everything smooth with the GTX285? No more media player crashes?
So far no crashes with the GTX 285
As for the crashing services thing with the video card, I've read numerous reports of people getting Windows Explorer.exe crashes with the ATI drivers, so maybe them crashing services isn't too far off either? Not sure
I forgot to add, some of my services crashes were preceeded by Catalyst center crashes
As for the crashing services thing with the video card, I've read numerous reports of people getting Windows Explorer.exe crashes with the ATI drivers, so maybe them crashing services isn't too far off either? Not sure
I forgot to add, some of my services crashes were preceeded by Catalyst center crashes
So far no crashes with the GTX 285
As for the crashing services thing with the video card, I've read numerous reports of people getting Windows Explorer.exe crashes with the ATI drivers, so maybe them crashing services isn't too far off either? Not sure
I forgot to add, some of my services crashes were preceeded by Catalyst center crashes
Explorer.exe crashing doesn't really surprise me so much as the other services. You probably wont have any issues with that GTX285.
So you are proposing nearly 2 years old video card in it's EOL (not cost effective for Nvidia) over HD5870? What for, explorer.exe is crashing. What about GTX295? It is more relevant in comparison to HD5870.
Some advice to people who had their CPU overclocked : when using new 5 series video cards check your MB Bios settings and increase with 0.1V PCI-E voltage. Sometimes it helps when overclocking related problem occur.
Some advice to people who had their CPU overclocked : when using new 5 series video cards check your MB Bios settings and increase with 0.1V PCI-E voltage. Sometimes it helps when overclocking related problem occur.
So putting in the Nvidia card didn't stop the crashes, but what it has allowed me to see is what BSODs I'm getting, for whatever reason the 5870 wouldn't show or let me see a BSOD, it would just hard freeze to a black screen instead.
I tried running my system at stock speeds, still getting the crashes.
I apologize for blaming ATI so much throughout this thread.
I tried running my system at stock speeds, still getting the crashes.
I apologize for blaming ATI so much throughout this thread.
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Dude that sucks and you just took that card back! I had a feeling with your crashing services it wasn't video card related. Well atleast you have narrowed down the problem. Can you go get your ATi card back? lol
EDIT: Least you were man enough to own up to your mistake. If not you would have left others thinking their ATI card is their problem as well. Thanks for letting us know. Now lets get your box back running right