sabrewolf732
Supreme [H]ardness
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Good job AMD. But now youre about to get wrecked by the 3080. GG.
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Who knows. Hoping the RX 6800 and/or RX 6700 trade blows with their Nvidia counterpart.
Isn't the super a bit more expensive? The 5700 series was a decent step forward, hopefully RDNA2 makes them reasonably competitive again. I liked my RX 5700, played RDR 2 on it at 1440p like a champ.
I don't think the power efficiency was good enough for them to do it. Even if they were able to tape out such a chip. Which I also don't think they could. Recent APUs, mobile chips, and general reports suggest that they have now refined things a lot on the power requirements and the process, in general.Fingers crossed. The 5700xt is actually impressively fast for its die size, wonder why AMD didn't just release navi with more CU's and faster memory, unless it doesn't scale well. Doesn't make sense.
If past articles from [H] are any indication: Nivida tends to deliver 100% performance on day one. Save for a couple of games throughout the lifecycle. (often games where AMD is particularly strong).Interesting that the 5700XT performance compared to the 2070 Super came up, did the 2070 Super get slower or did the 5700XT become faster? Or both?
Good point, pcie gen4 from their testing gave a few percent on newer games.HUB started using the 3950x system, so AMD may have picked up a few percent while the nvidia card saw no change.
Feels like your old FX setup will be the bottleneck as it cannot fully take advantage of the 5700 XT. Have you considered upgrading it to a 3300X?I would have gone for the 5700XT but the usual bad drivers and issues meant spending more time getting it to work rather than just enjoying it. I got the 2070 Super and it just works. Only 2 games take it to the ground RN, Space Engineers during large battles and Dual Universe at the main start areas with hundreds of ships. Otherwise, it doesn't break a sweat. I might grab a 5700 XT though and toss it into my old FX setup as well as another 2070 Super for my other Franken builds (since 3000 series dropped prices of the old cards).
Feels like your old FX setup will be the bottleneck as it cannot fully take advantage of the 5700 XT. Have you considered upgrading it to a 3300X?
The 3300x was a paper launch as well. I've had nowinstock alerts setup for 5 months and I still haven't been able to buy one.
A lot people are very pleased with the 3100 according to reviews on newegg about the cpu .
Wow, I didn't realize it is unavailable to this day. You are not joking about being a paper launch.The 3300x was a paper launch as well. I've had nowinstock alerts setup for 5 months and I still haven't been able to buy one.
Well its not like they can add CUs willy nilly.Fingers crossed. The 5700xt is actually impressively fast for its die size, wonder why AMD didn't just release navi with more CU's and faster memory, unless it doesn't scale well. Doesn't make sense.
In AMD optimized titles is sizzles. With ALL next gen gaming being developed on AMD consoles, This should bode well for 'bigger' navi.
Finally? It's been within a few % since it launched. Its more power efficient and a much smaller die. The lack of RT was a turn off for some, but for others it was a great deal. It's better at compute as well, not that's of interest to the majority. It's just all the nvidia marketing and fan boys would never admit that AMD had a pretty solid product. If they don't own the halo product they aren't competing is what people tend to say/think.
It was less power hungry by a little bit (going from memory) but nothing a normal desktop user would notice or care. Their drivers are a let down sometimes, while the majority of users have no issues there is still a large # of users that do, which obviously is not great.The 5700 XT is a decent card but it was ruined by months and months of black screen problems. Since they fixed the issue the 5700 XT is finally an ok card, but, still is lacking going forward. For a company that was so invested in consoles, it's amazing that the 5700XT doesn't have any support for Dx12 Ultimate. The 2070 super cards don't have black screen issues. What they do have is RT support, DLSS support and also full support for all the DX12 Ultimate features.
The 5700XT is probably less power efficient than the 2070 Super. It's on a smaller die(7nm) but still uses the same power as the 2070 Super(12nm)
I don't think the 5700XT is better at compute either. The only benchmarks I can find with compute are from Anandtech and they have the 2070Super well ahead.
There is a reason Nvidia works so hard to have the Halo product. It does affect people's purchasing decision. People want to be associated with best, fastest etc. You say AMD are competing well where they are competing? How is Nvidia having 80% of the discrete GPU market share competing well?
If AMD want to get back into the discrete GPU market, they will have to do like they did with Ryzen. Release good GPUs consistently for a couple of generations. No bad launches and no arriving a year late and no driver problems. And, like it or not, they will have to be competitive at the high end, maybe not at first, but that's what they should be aiming for.
It starts with RDNA 2. It has to be good. And when they follow up with RDNA 3 or whatever, that has to be better. Consistency is key.