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Except, this specific thread is the "halo" thread hence why we are having this conversation about "enthusiasts" paying crazy prices for a 5090 AKA "HALO CARD"? I thought this was H.A.R.D.O.C.P.? What other cards really matter except the high end and "halo" cards?
Yes but we have people doomsaying the entire pc gaming industry as if gaming is done for just because there's a high msrp card for sale.
That is not correct at all, most luxury cars are sitting on a lot near you. Rare super cars, than maybe they are hard to get. But a luxury vehicle is hardly difficult to get these days. Dealer might even throw in some free oil changes if you buy one now. Maybe a few years ago you might have been correct, but not now. You can't even get free lube from Nvidia, makes it even worse
Jensen: Look at me......everything gonna be ok!
If you don't think the pc gaming gaming industry is in trouble if the current trajectory of gpu prices continues then I don't know what else to say. In your wisdom do you foresee a return to sanity in the future?
Specious reasoning. We're talking about mid-higher end GPU availability here, not the number of gamers. What classifies as a "PC gamer" and what kind of games are they playing?
One of the reason for the gpu price is PC gaming demand because it is particularly high time healthy.
If you buy a pre-built system from Newegg for at least 4.6k they bundle in the 5090. But yeah it's hard to get a hold off. The "non-scalper" price on newegg is around 3k+ if you can find it in stock.
Let me clarify.....enthusiasts level pc gaming is dying a very long and painful death!
Almost 12 hours later and this bundle is still available. Cheapest 5090 I've seen on NewEgg (with scalper bundle) I've seen in a while.
You can buy a 5090 on NewEgg right now for $3k and even get a bonus Intel motherboard that nobody wants.
How is that a bonus?
Yeah to throw in a board nobody is probably going to use let alone be able to resell isn't really a "bonus". I mean if you had use for it then that isn't a bad deal. I was really tempted with the Aorus bundle, but I passed just because I wouldn't use the board for anything, and trying to sell that board along with many others in the same boat isn't ideal.
You know what's laughable? A grown man justifying paying thousands of dollars to play video games. At the end of the day this is a hobby for children; not adults! The other acitivties you mention are serious pursuits for grown men with disposable income. Let's be honest here......gaming is a child's activity that we allow ourselves as a "guilty pleasure" that speaks to the inner child in all of us; especially us Gen X'rs who grew up with this stuff. That said, I don't brag to my wife how many thousands of dollars i might spend on a 5090 in order to play the latest batch of pc games. I'd look like an idiot and she'd be right to call me out on it. We gamers come to sites like HARDOCP in order to participate in the herd mentality that makes it easier and more palpable to justify this irrationality.
You know what’s laughable? Crapping on people’s hobbies and age-gating them. Also, I’m sorry your balls are in your wife’s purse.
Well I’m in my early 50’s and still enjoy playing games and it’s nice to afford the more higher end stuff now. As I get older I enjoy the building aspect more so than the actual gaming part but it’s still a fun hobby. Really no reason to try and make someone feel bad about something they enjoy no matter what that hobby is tbh.
I'm not "crapping" or talking down on anything. The truth freakin hurts! As far as my balls are concerned? I'm sure they are much larger than yours and can't fit in my wife's purse as a result.......do you offer big balls carrying services by chance? I'm hiring.....
I addressed his post directly and truthfully. The truth hurts.....period! None of us would brag to any other reasonable, responsible adult about spending thousands of dollars on a gpu hence why we visit sites like HARDOCP in order to normalize and rationalize such irrational behavior. Yes, this is a child's activity that we "grown ups" allow ourselves as a "guilty pleasure" when the kids are asleep or the wives and girlfriends are gone. Why? Because we are still kids at heart and gaming speaks to that child in all of us. I don't trash that at all.
Oh please. Spare us the faux wisdom and self-loathing. You’re trying way too hard to justify your own insecurities by dragging everyone else down with you. If you think gaming is a child’s activity and feel guilty about enjoying it, that’s your problem. Don’t project that nonsense onto others. Grown adults with disposable income can spend their money however they damn well please, whether it’s on gaming, cars, watches, golf, or whatever else. The fact that you need to wrap your hobby in some weird shame blanket says way more about you than anyone else here. Maybe instead of coming to forums to convince yourself that your own interests are irrational, you should work on not being so desperate for validation. Now, if you’re done whining, the adults will get back to enjoying their hobbies without pointless guilt.
I get that you want to voice your opinion and that's fine. The thing that is kind of confusing to me is why would you come on a PC enthusiast forum and expect no kind of harsh response? Maybe you did it intentionally or maybe didn't think it through, but who knows. To say the truth hurts makes absolutely no sense at all given the community here. By the way I talk to my wife about my PC hobby and she listens even though she may not understand it, but she knows it makes me happy. I listen to her about her job and the books she reads just because both make her happy. It's called enjoying life and we all try to do that in our own way whether or not someone agrees with how we/I go about doing that doesn't really mean crap to me.
You are correct. What response can you expect on a forum of people who believe it's perfectly fine to spend thousand of dollars on a single pc component just to play substandard AAA pc games? I should have known better. That said, I'm out of here.....
FrgMstr Please take out the trash.
Funny coming from someone with a name like Dookey? I bet you smell just like your namesake!
I sure do. Wanna smell my starfish?
You totally missed my point. Because we want to and it makes us happy.
Can confirm, as a newly budding "audiophile", my last set of speakers cost more then a base 5090 (at msrp). I bought them without a second thought when the deal came up, but I also know they'll be viable for years and years (a decade?) to come.
Yep! 100% right, and the consumers willingness to pay that price is just fine. You guys do you and buy, and personally, I won't. My 3080 is still trucking along.
Those are usually actual things buying bought with some actual scaling per $ going like GPUs (and if they do not break can be good for 15-35 years, etc.... it is not a fast moving tech and it will always be expensive to build high quality speaker), I had more in minds selling people 192 sample per second audio, very fancy cables, pure sin wave, networks equipment.
Definitely frustrating times for the hobby but I'm not sure why that guy blew a gasket, I don't see much elitism going on here. You get the idea you're an "audiophile" and brave HeadFi or AVSForum for that. Lots of good information to be sure but watch for the mines. I wanted to ditch headphones and cables altogether so I sold the HD800s, bought the Dragon soundbar system and was done with it. Perfect for me... blasphemy to the true believers
