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5090 in stock and it looks like it is staying in stock

I did read on reddit some people actually had luck going INTO the store and kindly requesting the service desk to purchase them a 5090FE. Take that with a grain of salt, but if you are desperate and close to a BB, worth a shot?
 
I did read on reddit some people actually had luck going INTO the store and kindly requesting the service desk to purchase them a 5090FE. Take that with a grain of salt, but if you are desperate and close to a BB, worth a shot?
I shared this almost a week ago. Even if doesn't work there are enough discord trackers to get notified almost 20-30 mins in advance and hacks people use. You won't be lucky each time but the sheer amount of people posting success stories with FE cards has increased quite significantly past 3-4 weeks.
 
A 3090 FE or 5090 FE?
Ebay prices dropped suddenly in the past week
Bought a 3090 FE from bestbuy during covid times, would upgrade to a 5090 FE. 2k seems kinda gross still but I also remember getting pissed at $1.18 premium gas....get off my lawn
 
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Houston MC currently has 7 different 5090 models now showing at "25+ in stock". What gives? This should be a clear sign to retail and distributors that no one is interested in their inflated price gouging. Heck SRP is too high to begin with.
 
The price jump over a 4090 vs the performance gain was just really underwhelming. Also my other hobby said you need new track tires. Those aren't cheap either.
 
What gaslighting? That's the fact. Many people are getting them through best buy. You need to put in the effort if you want a 2000$ card.
First you say it's available- then you say "try your luck".

Again, gaslighting.
 
First you say it's available- then you say "try your luck".

Again, gaslighting.
Bro reading is not your forte. 5090 is available everywhere. If you want an FE, try your luck as drops have increased lately.

Seriously, seems you learnt a term and forgot to google the meaning of it.
 
First you say it's available- then you say "try your luck".

Again, gaslighting.
Aren't you the guy who, earlier in the thread, said you had an Nvidia FE 5090 invite, placed and then canceled the order claiming it was too expensive for a video card? Or am I mixing you up with someone else?

EDIT: Nope, think it was someone else. Still, you've only posted to this thread complaining dozens of times. We know you don't want to pay for one. Trust me, we know. Enough gaslighting.
 
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Prices I see are:
- Astral from 2800 to 3359
- TUF from 2000 to 2759
- TUF OC from 2200 to 2999
- gigabyte wind force from 2000 to 2679
- gigabyte Aorus master from 2400 to 2999
- gigabyte gaming OC from 2200 to 27XX
- suprim from 2400 to 3200
- vanguard from 2350 to 3049
- trio from 2300 to 3049

Don’t even want to talk about Zotac or PNY.

So yeah, I am not seeing any drops.
What's up with the PNY hate. I've owned a few and they were solid cards but just not as blingy.
 
What's up with the PNY hate. I've owned a few and they were solid cards but just not as blingy.
They are, indeed, awesome. Just had to RMA my 5080 OC and it was a great experience.

Zotac hate? Sure. Chinese brand, not as high quality. PNY hate? Not sure. Based out of U.S., great U.S. support.

I do hate their new 5090 and 5080 pricing. Got my 5080 at the $1K price point and have liked them so much I got a 5070, too.
 
What's up with the PNY hate. I've owned a few and they were solid cards but just not as blingy.
I don’t hate anything except maybe Zotac coz I have had a 100% coil whine galore experience.

However, PNY was the brand that jacked up its RGB cards to 3400 bucks up from 2200 and also their regular model from 2000 to 3000. Which is some of the biggest hikes done by anyone for a what I would say a regular card. Having said that they have brought it down to I think 3000 for both models now.
 
I don’t hate anything except maybe Zotac coz I have had a 100% coil whine galore experience.

However, PNY was the brand that jacked up its RGB cards to 3400 bucks up from 2200 and also their regular model from 2000 to 3000. Which is some of the biggest hikes done by anyone for a what I would say a regular card. Having said that they have brought it down to I think 3000 for both models now.
It's the price you pay for Paris - New York, baby!
 
Tons of cards sitting at 2500 mark and falling, 5080s are basically selling for msrp or lower, have an opportunity to get a 5090 fe close to msrp but thinking why do I need a 2k video card lol when I have 0 time to game, 5080 is more than capable even with my AW32225QF...more importantly it's frequently 90+ outside and a 600W gaming heater is not ahem ideal.
 
Tons of cards sitting at 2500 mark and falling, 5080s are basically selling for msrp or lower, have an opportunity to get a 5090 fe close to msrp but thinking why do I need a 2k video card lol when I have 0 time to game, 5080 is more than capable even with my AW32225QF...more importantly it's frequently 90+ outside and a 600W gaming heater is not ahem ideal.
Sell your 5080 and get a 5070 or something. Still a great performing card. With what you outlined why bother?
 
Sell your 5080 and get a 5070 or something. Still a great performing card. With what you outlined why bother?
Exactly, 5070 ti undervolt and overclocked gets to roughly 3% of stock 5080 performance. Also I can totally see 5080 being sold at pretty bad depreciation once the supers come out, while 5070 ti keeping most of their value. 5070 will probably be worst hit in terms of percentage loss, but at actual dollar amount might be lowest.

But the 5090 is an absolute beast of a card that should be more than usable until the rtx 9xxx series rolls around.
 
Sell your 5080 and get a 5070 or something. Still a great performing card. With what you outlined why bother?
Inertia of rest , already have a launch 5080 fe so now in wait and watch mode..and yes the 5080 super will be a travesty, should have been a 24 gb card at launch with 10% higher clocks and power limits so it would have almost equaled the 4090.
 
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Inertia of rest , already have a launch 5080 fe so now in wait and watch mode..
Inertia of rest? I get that. I don't really upgrade my main rig unless I feel a need for a performance improvement anymore. Built my first rig in 1997, and after 28 years I'm far less inclined to mess with it unless I feel a need for a performance improvement.

I wouldn't swap that out 5080FE for anything less than a 5090 or some card that isn't out yet and won't be for some time.

I have my office set up to deal with the 5090 heat load. I have central AC, actually two (first & second floor), but I have a window unit in my office. It can get a bit warm on WFH days or when gaming, but it's cheaper and more comfortable to add a window unit to my office than it is to run the central AC hard enough to keep my office cool. That would make the rest of the house too cold, an uncomfortable waste of $. It's also quite useful on days when I wouldn't need AC if I wasn't hanging out in my office all day with a bunch of computers. It's not uncommon for me to be in my office with the door closed and the window unit going while AC is off in the rest of the house.
 
Inertia of rest? I get that. I don't really upgrade my main rig unless I feel a need for a performance improvement anymore. Built my first rig in 1997, and after 28 years I'm far less inclined to mess with it unless I feel a need for a performance improvement.

I wouldn't swap that out 5080FE for anything less than a 5090 or some card that isn't out yet and won't be for some time.

I have my office set up to deal with the 5090 heat load. I have central AC, actually two (first & second floor), but I have a window unit in my office. It can get a bit warm on WFH days or when gaming, but it's cheaper and more comfortable to add a window unit to my office than it is to run the central AC hard enough to keep my office cool. That would make the rest of the house too cold, an uncomfortable waste of $. It's also quite useful on days when I wouldn't need AC if I wasn't hanging out in my office all day with a bunch of computers. It's not uncommon for me to be in my office with the door closed and the window unit going while AC is off in the rest of the house.
Ha, I do the same in my office / gaming room. Portable AC unit for when I am gaming or if it is really hot outside and central just can't keep the room cool when working.

However, I have noticed my 5090 (on average) uses less power than my 4090 under the same settings at 4K. The reason? MFG. If I run 3X or 4X to max out certain games with refresh rate, it uses under 500W of power (because I am limited to 144Hz). Only games that can't keep up (using Path Tracing) really push it to full 600W+, and thus, more heat.
 
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My local MC has a GPU "sale" for the 4th. The base model PNY 5090 is $300 off at $2499. They sold one card yesterday. The PNY 5090 ARGB Epic-X OC version is on sale for $100 more at $2599. Not a single one sold yesterday. The next least expensive 5090 in stock, and there's a ton of 5090's in stock, is an MSI Ventus for $2789. I'm thinking we're going to be seeing a lot more "sales" or price cuts in the near future for 5090's.
 
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F*** THESE PRICES.

I want a 5090, particularly one of the MSI or Gigabyte water cooled models, but another poster mentioned that their other hobbies are conflicting here. I could by a 700HP short block for my car for $4700 and that'll be good as long as I take care of the engine. Yes, I'll need to throw an additional $4000+ in parts at it to get the full benefit, but at least it's not a stupid GPU that is going to be crap in 5 years.

When Nvidia GPU prices are >$2000, I start thinking of what else I can do with >$2000 that goes much further than a GPU.
 
This is probably how nVidia exits the gaming market. See shareholders, we built the nice gaming cards for the gamers but they didn’t sell so now we use all silicon for AI. Bye gamers! LOL
Nope. Until their revenue from gaming GPUs starts to drop, I don't see them abandoning the market.
 
F*** THESE PRICES.

I want a 5090, particularly one of the MSI or Gigabyte water cooled models, but another poster mentioned that their other hobbies are conflicting here. I could by a 700HP short block for my car for $4700 and that'll be good as long as I take care of the engine. Yes, I'll need to throw an additional $4000+ in parts at it to get the full benefit, but at least it's not a stupid GPU that is going to be crap in 5 years.

When Nvidia GPU prices are >$2000, I start thinking of what else I can do with >$2000 that goes much further than a GPU.
oook...dude, not all earn your way and not all value the way you do

My hobby is traveling. Been to over 50 countries and counting. Is easy to spend 10k+ for a 10-14 days trip to some remote corners of the Earth Ex Antarctica, Greenland, Kilimanjaro, Machupichu , Kingdom of Tonga, Palau and so on. While I have nothing to show for my trips ( i dont even take pics) i have made lots of memories that will last me way more than your short block or radiator. Stop judging prices through your point of view. If anything , life is unique. Enjoy it!!!
 
oook...dude, not all earn your way and not all value the way you do

My hobby is traveling. Been to over 50 countries and counting. Is easy to spend 10k+ for a 10-14 days trip to some remote corners of the Earth Ex Antarctica, Greenland, Kilimanjaro, Machupichu , Kingdom of Tonga, Palau and so on. While I have nothing to show for my trips ( i dont even take pics) i have made lots of memories that will last me way more than your short block or radiator. Stop judging prices through your point of view. If anything , life is unique. Enjoy it!!!
My wife and I travel every year to somewhere we have never been before... that being said, my 5090 is cheap compared to other hobbies and life's adventures. Plus, if gaming isn't a primary hobby, its not like most people need to drop a ton of money on the absolute best components. I do it because its one of my primary hobbies and love top of the line tech. Didn't make it this far in life on my end to skimp out on parts, when in the end, its not gonna matter anyway!
 
Nope. Until their revenue from gaming GPUs starts to drop, I don't see them abandoning the market.
You think shareholders want them wasting precious silicon on gaming cards? If you can make a card that will instantly sell for multiple times what a gaming card goes for from the same wafers and fab space, how does it make sense to build gaming cards? It doesn’t. More and more of nVidia’s engineering, programming and wafer resources will be going towards AI. It’s simply good business sense.

They selling AI cards faster than they can make them and high end gaming cards aren’t selling. What do you think is going to happen? I’m truly surprised shareholders haven’t been holding their feet to the fire for that already.

Being in the gaming market is holding them back.
 
You think shareholders want them wasting precious silicon on gaming cards? If you can make a card that will instantly sell for multiple times what a gaming card goes for from the same wafers and fab space, how does it make sense to build gaming cards? It doesn’t. More and more of nVidia’s engineering, programming and wafer resources will be going towards AI. It’s simply good business sense.

They selling AI cards faster than they can make them and high end gaming cards aren’t selling. What do you think is going to happen? I’m truly surprised shareholders haven’t been holding their feet to the fire for that already.

Being in the gaming market is holding them back.
As a shareholder of nVidia (and a gamer since the 90s), I stated before, and will state again, I believe nVidia will just shift to AI. Plenty of 5000 series in the wild now, they do not need to lower price with absolutely no competition on the high end. Those cards can sit as far as nVidia is concerned and they can shift manufacturing time to the AI cards. After all, nVidia already made its money selling them to the distributors or AIBs
 
You think shareholders want them wasting precious silicon on gaming cards? If you can make a card that will instantly sell for multiple times what a gaming card goes for from the same wafers and fab space, how does it make sense to build gaming cards? It doesn’t. More and more of nVidia’s engineering, programming and wafer resources will be going towards AI. It’s simply good business sense.

They selling AI cards faster than they can make them and high end gaming cards aren’t selling. What do you think is going to happen? I’m truly surprised shareholders haven’t been holding their feet to the fire for that already.

Being in the gaming market is holding them back.
So this statement isn’t really true. Recent discussion talking about how it’s not a zero sum game, but rather a coordination and total component supply bottlenecks that dictate AI chip manufacturing yield, not that “gaming gpus” take away from the total number of AI chips a company can sell.

View: https://youtu.be/61d7cBQcjVc?si=Zgzq2Mi_ZbIK4K0D
 
Until AI models stop relying on GPUs, they will be making GPUs as the cut die or waste can be sold for 2000 a pop. Who doesn't want that?
 
You think shareholders want them wasting precious silicon on gaming cards? If you can make a card that will instantly sell for multiple times what a gaming card goes for from the same wafers and fab space, how does it make sense to build gaming cards? It doesn’t. More and more of nVidia’s engineering, programming and wafer resources will be going towards AI. It’s simply good business sense.

They selling AI cards faster than they can make them and high end gaming cards aren’t selling. What do you think is going to happen? I’m truly surprised shareholders haven’t been holding their feet to the fire for that already.

Being in the gaming market is holding them back.
AI and GeForce generally used different node for the silicon. GeForce normally uses a lesser node so it might not even effect AI production. If Nvidia can get more capacity allocation then yes I can see them dumping gaming cards.
 
You think shareholders want them wasting precious silicon on gaming cards? If you can make a card that will instantly sell for multiple times what a gaming card goes for from the same wafers and fab space, how does it make sense to build gaming cards? It doesn’t. More and more of nVidia’s engineering, programming and wafer resources will be going towards AI. It’s simply good business sense.

For many reason yes they want them (for the same reasons they still make them)

- Cuda everywhere moat, they want college kids to learn on CUDA, because they have it in their computer, they have it in their computer because Nvidia still make gaming cards
- Recently of the many thousands of main piece in a GB200 NVL72 the individual die from the fabs was not the bottleneck, cooling, backplanes, nvlink-interconnecting hardware, memory, made a lot of noise CoWoS packaging all had capacity issues, could be why Nvidia did not mind and did not do like Intel-AMD and splitting nodes, could very well be they were not the issues for the shipment of GB200 (chance are good they did not missed one shipment/sales of those because of gaming)
- 70%+ net margin cannot go on forever, Nvidia really high current gaming margin could be where their datacenter end up quick.
- If fabs become the bottleneck, gaming on older node (with how slow they progress) is possible, yet to be on TSMC 3N after all which has been running M3 computers since 2023
- We should not overrate the demand/wait list for $9000 RTX 4000/5000/6000 as for the very similar more a direct competition, they are not like the GB200 system.
 
AI and GeForce generally used different node for the silicon. GeForce normally uses a lesser node so it might not even effect AI production. If Nvidia can get more capacity allocation then yes I can see them dumping gaming cards.
Not much recently, Lovelace/Blackwell shared very similar node I think, unlike say ampere that had Samsung (gaming) vs TSMC (A100 line) going at the same time. A bigger current example is Switch 2 gaming for Nvidia, being on old 2022/2023 die made on Samsung 8++, why not ?

With advanced packaging and other parts becoming more and more the bottleneck for the AI supercomputer than raw wafers and TSMC becoming the only relevant player in the market.

TSMC CoWos capacity seem less than what Nvidia could sell if they used all of it, having regular line of product has been excellent for them last quarter... That the bottleneck for GB200 unit going out not TSMC 4 space many thinks.
 
Here in the UK, 5090s of all models have been sitting in stock and available for over a month now. There was an FE drop Friday and it remained in stock all weekend. Refurbed cards are going for under £1800. Resellers can't shift them. It seems people and companies have finally gotten their fill of >$2500 cards.
 
They sold very well though.

Steam hardware survey shows more 5090s than 9070s, even if it's less ridiculous than last gen where the 4090 outsold several AMD models combined.
 
They sold very well though.

Steam hardware survey shows more 5090s than 9070s, even if it's less ridiculous than last gen where the 4090 outsold several AMD models combined.

I don't think the 9070 has been out long enough it hit the survey results yet, This is the first survey I have seen any 5090 results.
 
The 9070 can be found, under DirectX devices. There is no excuse, every single type of 50xx card shows up on the front page, except 5050.

This is sorted by % change this month, under dx11/12 devices (not sure why it says Vulkan)
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The 9070 can be found, under DirectX devices. There is no excuse, every single type of 50xx card shows up on the front page, except 5050.

This is sorted by % change this month, under dx11/12 devices (not sure why it says Vulkan)
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Ok, didn't know I had to do that, I just looked under video cards. Not sure why you thought it was an excuse. Honestly who cares to a certain extent, price and availability has kind of sucked for this generation.
 
My local MC has some reasonably priced (comparatively speaking) 5090's right now... It is very tempting as I am still within my return window on my Suprim 5090. If I did not love this specific card so much, I'd return it and save myself around $600... lol

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