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5090 in stock and it looks like it is staying in stock

NukeDukem said:
I get it. I was sour too especially in regard to "meltgate". I understand why people are pissed, but there's no need to come on a computer hardware forum and call everyone a child. I hope he was just drunk or something and not actually having a mental breakdown over this. It's still not the most expensive hobby in the world by a longshot. Obviously even people on this enthusiast forum are dejected and it makes me sad to see it. My personal honor code wouldn't allow me to pay a scalper, that's where I drew the line. A fortunate email from a retailer I do a lot of business with is the only reason I own a 5090 right now. Otherwise I probably would just stay away from the forum. It used to be fun coming here and "flexing" new kit because most others could share in the excitement. Things just aren't the same anymore and I hope in a year or two we can get back to that.
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Yes it does suck but what's the point in trying to make everyone else who is still enjoying the hobby feel bad about themselves? One day I will get priced out of the halo tier too but you won't see me kicking and screaming on this forum calling everyone who still buys the flagship GPU idiots and children.
 
MistaSparkul said:
Yes it does suck but what's the point in trying to make everyone else who is still enjoying the hobby feel bad about themselves? One day I will get priced out of the halo tier too but you won't see me kicking and screaming on this forum calling everyone who still buys the flagship GPU idiots and children.
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He stepped over the line and had a meltdown, and thus why he is gone. But it also shows you the frustration that is out there in the gaming community. If this trend keeps continuing he wont be the last having a meltdown about it. Costs on everything are way up and people are starting to feel that and the first thing to take a cut in funds is your hobby.
 
MistaSparkul said:
Yes it does suck but what's the point in trying to make everyone else who is still enjoying the hobby feel bad about themselves? One day I will get priced out of the halo tier too but you won't see me kicking and screaming on this forum calling everyone who still buys the flagship GPU idiots and children.
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I'm already out of the Halo card race. AIBs are going crazy raising the prices like they are. Supply and demand sucks but many of us have long memories when it comes to what is happening now.

Anyway, I ordered a new computer with a 5090 so I will have one shortly, but I would never pay what the current going rate is for a 5090 at this point in time. I'll just keep my 5090 for a couple of generations if current price levels hold over the years. No more every generation upgrades. I'd rather buy more guns and ammo from now on and just buy used GPUs.

With all of that said I don't begrudge anyone spending their money how they want to. I'm just reaching my upper limit for gaming GPUs. I say more power to those that buy and hope they enjoy their GPUs. Their purchase doesn't hurt me one bit.
 
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I think one other reason people are upset is the lack of 4090s, too. You can't even default to the next best thing.
On the plus side, there aren't really that many games or setups out there that truly benefit from the upper tier cards. You're basically looking at people playing at 4K/120 (or 1440p with super high FPS) and some pretty specific brand-new AAA titles.
 
Domingo said:
On the plus side, there aren't really that many games or setups out there that truly benefit from the upper tier cards. You're basically looking at people playing at 4K/120 (or 1440p with super high FPS) and some pretty specific brand-new AAA titles.
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I'd say 4K/240Hz is the standard for those buying 5090s. If you're buying a $3K GPU, I'd also expect that you are pairing it properly with a top of the line $1K 4K/240 OLED - and I only point out its price because it's much less than the GPU itself.

A 4K/240 OLED is a nice jump over something like a 4K/144 IPS too.
 
Dan_D said:
Compared to some of my other hobbies, PC gaming is relatively cheap. Even when buying 5090's and $1,000 motherboards.
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While I somewhat agree with you that compared to other hobbies this is "relatively" cheap lets also not lose sight of the fact that there is no good reason a 25% bump in performance from what was a $1600 MSRP RTX 4090 should cost $2000 MSRP (I'm ignoring the ridiculous inflation for a moment) that's called market stagnation. When Nvidia just slots their next card in above what's already in their lineup we as gamers lose. We have historically been granted a increase in performance for relatively the same money spent as the previous generation. We didn't get that this time, and sure blame can be levied at AMD for deciding to make it a one pony race by them abandoning the high end segment. We should not take this lying down and be OK with Nvidia charging 25% more for 25% more performance and letting the market stagnate. Remember what happened in the CPU market with Intel when AMD was stuck in Bulldozer hell? We got essentially the same CPU released for 5 generations with paltry gains in performance. This is where the GPU market is now.
 
NukeDukem said:
Definitely frustrating times for the hobby but I'm not sure why that guy blew a gasket
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He wanted to state his opinion and went about saying it multiple times in different threads. I'm thinking 90% of us here are PC enthusiasts so not sure why he thought this was the place to complain, but I think he did the right thing and had his account deleted.
 
Gideon said:
You may start to feel differently when prices on everything start going up due to tariffs. Everyone is about to start feeling the pinch if these remain in place for a extended amount of time.
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Also going to go out on a limb and guess he has no children.
 
Gideon said:
You may start to feel differently when prices on everything start going up due to tariffs. Everyone is about to start feeling the pinch if these remain in place for a extended amount of time.
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When a rifle I'm interested in can cost $4,000 without putting an optic or any other accessory on it, I doubt it. If I want a crate engine for my Camaro, that could easily cost me $10,000 or more. A supercharger for my truck can easily cost that much as well. So no, we are a ways off from building a PC every two or three years being anywhere near as expensive as my other hobbies. That's not to say that I don't feel the pinch of the price increases. $1,000 motherboards and $3,000 GPU's is fucking bullshit. PC components have almost gone up like house prices in the last few years. Not to mention our wallets have been getting hit everywhere else, though not necessarily as hard in all cases.
Furious_Styles said:
Also going to go out on a limb and guess he has no children.
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I have no children and I've never been married.
 
Happy with my Suprim AIO 4090 atm. Have plans for my next build, but want to get a new desk before i do that and it involves paying down a few bills first before i do so. (Could do it now with no real problems, but no real need to upgrade my computer atm, especially since i want to do an all-white build when i finally do another upgrade)
 
Dan_D said:
$1,000 motherboards and $3,000 GPU's is fucking bullshit. PC components have almost gone up like house prices in the last few years.
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I think people are just going to have to get used to settling for a 5080 or 9070XT from here on out, because AI is always going scoop up whatever Nvidia is producing at the high end. For current 4090 owners that may even mean waiting until the 6080 releases.
 
Domingo said:
I think one other reason people are upset is the lack of 4090s, too. You can't even default to the next best thing.
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I always treated the top GPU like leasing a car. Trading in and leveling up. Paying the difference to mitigate the cost and just budgeting for it yearly. Amazing how the market fundamentally shifted in the fall of 2020, seemingly never to return. This is the second time I've sold a flagship GPU for more than I paid a couple years before. Speculating on that happening in early 2020? Everyone on the forum would have laughed.
 
NukeDukem said:
I always treated the top GPU like leasing a car. Trading in and leveling up. Paying the difference to mitigate the cost and just budgeting for it yearly. Amazing how the market fundamentally shifted in the fall of 2020, seemingly never to return. This is the second time I've sold a flagship GPU for more than I paid a couple years before. Speculating on that happening in early 2020? Everyone on the forum would have laughed.
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I used to do the same thing, but in recent years I've just kept the GPU's and passed them down to other machines.
 
I typically offset the cost of a new video card by selling my older one, too. Either that or if my wife's machine is long in the tooth I'll pass it down to her. She's got a 3090 (on a 1440p/60 monitor) right now, so I figure that'll hold her for a while. If I ever do stumble upon a 5090 FE, I'll probably sell my 4090, but I'm no longer actively looking. I kinda figured there would be a wave of games planned that I'd need one for, but outside of Doom I'm not really seeing it. Maybe in a year things will be different, but there also might be a TI model by then, too.
 
Niner said:
He wanted to state his opinion and went about saying it multiple times in different threads. I'm thinking 90% of us here are PC enthusiasts so not sure why he thought this was the place to complain, but I think he did the right thing and had his account deleted.
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It's called narcissism. Like wailing babies in a restaurant, things to keep quiet but of no real value.

I used to like Mac Pro towers many years and owned several for Logic Pro. Then at some point they got super expensive, and no longer made sense for what I used them for. I was no longer the target market, and didn't take it personally.

The reason I never dragged my runny nose across every Mac Pro thread I could find online to wear everyone's patience real thin about injustice in our time, is because I could do anything else. I have ten other hobbies like that which changed and it doesn't matter.
 
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DPI said:
To stop myself from ever going full meltdown mode, GoldenTiger has sealed, handwritten instructions for dealing with me humanely:

"Critical is the barrel far past the molars. Make it a .357 and make it dirty, honey."

Deep into the woods, it's quiet, a muffled "pop" and birds scattering from trees.
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Lol a little extreme, better probably to just let off a little steam in a forum instead :) But the frustration is real out there.
 
There are lots of people who spend a ton of money or time on what most will consider "Frivolous Pursuits", so whatever people want to spend or do in their free time is their own business in my opinion. People complain about spending huge amounts on graphics cards or other PC equipment, but will happily spend $1000's on Phones, Audio equipment, or "Bling" for their vehicles among other things. If you have the money and can afford it, why not?
(People LOVE to happily tell others how to spend their money, but the minute you tell THEM how to spend theirs.......)
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whats the best way to determine if there is stock? MC is 45min away from me and don't want to drive everyday. Do people still wait in lines hoping there's a drop?
 
Just wait folks, the recession is already here, these will go below msrp soon enough, the wealth being destroyed in the stock market is real and these are luxury nice to have things not eggs or bread lol, 5090 will sell for 1500 later this year unless we magically course correct and that isn't looking likely.
 
Soon as I saw the Fed guy with my 5080 my systolic blood pressure dropped 20 points. My diastolic dropped when I saw the thing actually work during a benchmark.
 
undertaker2k8 said:
Just wait folks, the recession is already here, these will go below msrp soon enough, the wealth being destroyed in the stock market is real and these are luxury nice to have things not eggs or bread lol, 5090 will sell for 1500 later this year unless we magically course correct and that isn't looking likely.
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Yep the economy is absolute toast, global recession is inevitable
It will be interesting to see how boutique tech prices react maybe they don't change at all
 
Dan_D said:
No, I don't dare get into that. That would make me poor super quick.
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(to be fair I have more in the g&a and scopes part than the actual "match" parts of it all)
 
With the tariffs I'm now convinced I'm not getting one of these. I can't even get a 9070xt or 5070ti at MSRP, and if that gets raised because of the tariffs I'll probably just live with my 2080ti.
 
Wag said:
With the tariffs I'm now convinced I'm not getting one of these. I can't even get a 9070xt or 5070ti at MSRP, and if that gets raised because of the tariffs I'll probably just live with my 2080ti.
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We'll all have bigger problems soon, my 45" LG OLED is here but instead of being excited, I'm thinking of just returning it.
 
I've come to terms that I'll be living with this 3080 Ti for quite a long time as well.
Wag said:
With the tariffs I'm now convinced I'm not getting one of these. I can't even get a 9070xt or 5070ti at MSRP, and if that gets raised because of the tariffs I'll probably just live with my 2080ti.
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Dan_D said:
Nope. For me its guns and car stuff. (As I mentioned above.)
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I only have so much bandwidth at a time for hobbies. It's either PC gaming, guns or my sports car. That being said I went to the range last weekend for the first time since 2019 and realized I needed more 9mm. I was annoyed to learn ammo is still pricey with the current political environment, ugh.

I need cheaper hobbies, ugh.
 
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