5070 Ti - Is this the best bang for the buck nvidia gpu?

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Nvidia just announced the price for 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080 and 5090.

5090 is out of my budget. Knowing that individual use case and how much spare money one's have may sway the decision on what model to buy, let's keep this simple, just by looking at the cores/performance, memory, clock speed and price and exclude overclocking potential/headroom until we have actual reviews.

I'm sure Nvidia will roll out the Ti/Ti Super/Super series in the near future, which may change this assumption but let's discuss what what we know for now.

It seems to me that 5070 Ti might be a good choice? I particularly like the memory bandwidth of 256-bit bus which relative to 5080 is about 8.8% slower per the leak but still having 16GB and 256-bit memory bus width interface. Let's discuss this among the 5000 series card first that was just announced. Granted if 4000 series card drop significantly in the second hand market, it could change this but let's put that aside first until actual review is out.

50705070 Ti vs 50705070 Ti 5080 vs 5070 Ti5080
Cuda cores6144+45.9%8960+20%10752
AI tensor cores988 AI TOPS+42.3%1406 TOPS+28.1%1801 AI TOPS
Ray tracing cores94 TFLOPS+41.5%133 TFLOPS+28.6%171 TFLOPS
Base clock2.16 GHz+6.5%2.30 GHz0%2.30 GHz
Boost clock2.51 GHz-2.4%2.45 GHz-6.9%2.62 GHz
Memory12GB+33.3%16GB0%16GB
Price$549+36.4%$749+33.4%$999
 
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It seems DLSS 4 is doing a lot of the heavy lifting for the claimed perf gains, yet they mention DLSS 4 is also coming to Ada series which makes me wonder if the comparative gains were tested against DLSS 3, at which point I'd be more curious the gains under Ada.

Edit: re-reading a keynote summary only multi-frame generation is exclusive to Blackwell.
 
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KazeoHin said:
Well, the best performance-per-dollar will probably be something AMD

But nobody will buy it.

so the best bang-for-buck NVIDIA GPU is probably the 5070 Ti.
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Yes, I meant nvidia cards. I'll edit the title. I may still keep an eye on the 4000 series card since we don't really know how the price will react. I remembered when 3000 series card was announced, the 2080 Ti price tanked for a very short period of time but eventually recovered quickly.
 
If DLSS 4.0 is good enough to upscale to 4K without any noticeable loss of quality, then the 5070Ti looks very tempting, If not, I just have to bite the bullet and go for the 5080 as an upgrade from my 3080.
I'm also not that impressed by RT, nor HDR for that matter, so the raw raster performance is more important for me.
 
We'll see how availability and actual performance shakes out. I'm still good with my 12GB 3080 for a while, so I may be more interested in the correlative price drop on a 4080 or something for $500 or less.

I have a 240Hz 1440p UW OLED, but as long as I'm getting over 60 with DLSS I'm happy for the games that I play (single player), which I'm still getting with my 3080 so far on the handful of games I can get through in a year. Currently playing System Shock at 240 FPS maxed out as well on DLSS Quality setting, which I only use because it looks better than native with the AA it provides.
 
The xx70 line has always been the best bang for buck.

I had a 970, 1070, then 2070 Super, skipped 3000 series, got a 4070 Ti, and will now be skipping the 5000 series I'm pretty sure. Sticking to 1440p so I see no need for upgrading.
 
Nvidia gave nearly 0 clear information on the performance, according to the graph bar around 30-33% faster (149 vs 198 pixels) than a 4070ti in far cry (RT on but that a game with light and for console RT if I remember correctly).

30% faster would be a 7900xtx performance, being about where the AMD competition will stop, they would be cheaper than any 7900xtx on the market right now I think, which seem to start at $870-930.

IF it is around a 4080super for $750 with a little bit better RT and faster DLSS instead of $1000, available at MSRP (is that the sku with no FE, that a big IF...) it would be an interesting price-performance jump by them, going into the direction that outside the 4060 and 4090, the previous offer (specially before the super upgrade) did not sell well.

5060-5090 could be 2 case that goes price bump and good performance bump, where the price stay the same or go down, modest performance upgrade.
 
I’d wait for third party benchmarks before I got too excited. The ridiculous claims of the 40 series cards fell flat on their face. Let’s see some independent numbers and then decide.
 
Dreamerbydesign said:
I’d wait for third party benchmarks before I got too excited. The ridiculous claims of the 40 series cards fell flat on their face. Let’s see some independent numbers and then decide.
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Agreed. Everything from Nvidia looks impressive... of course, sometimes... when you wait, you lose. If you want (for example) the two slot(ish) 5090 (which appears to be unique to Nivida's offering), probably need to "open wallet" and have the will power to "not look before leaping".
 
cjcox said:
Agreed. Everything from Nvidia looks impressive... of course, sometimes... when you wait, you lose. If you want (for example) the two slot(ish) 5090 (which appears to be unique to Nivida's offering), probably need to "open wallet" and have the will power to "not look before leaping".
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Maybe I am the only one who thinks there’s a chance it won’t actually be that slim and handle the power numbers he stated? I guess we will see.
 
With all the ridiculous models coming out for AIBs, pricing may get a bit wonky. $750 for around 4080/super performance is ok. The 16 gigs is meh but if decent cards are around msrp I will just go with that.

I just don’t see how for example MSI is gonna have a ventus, inspire, vanguard and suprim all within that $750-$1000 range. Once you get past $850 why not just buy the better video card.

Interested to see how it works out for the 5080 also. Charge to much and might as well get a lower end 5090.
 
It's pretty obvious that most/all of the performance claims that have been made by Nvidia so far have been mainly highlighting best-case scenarios when using DLSS 4. But keep in mind that there are still plenty of games out there that don't even support DLSS at all. We really need 3rd party reviews, especially in non-DLSS games. And make no mistake, sticking with 16GB for everything other than the 5090 was a big letdown, DLSS or not.
 
Eivind68 said:
If DLSS 4.0 is good enough to upscale to 4K without any noticeable loss of quality, then the 5070Ti looks very tempting, If not, I just have to bite the bullet and go for the 5080 as an upgrade from my 3080.
I'm also not that impressed by RT, nor HDR for that matter, so the raw raster performance is more important for me.
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I think I'll Be targeting the 5070 ti also based on info we Have so far should be a staggering leap from my trusty 3080! Which has been a fantastic workhorse. Excited to see benchmarks hopefully popping up before the official retail releases in Feb
 
mr_zen256 said:
I think I'll Be targeting the 5070 ti also based on info we Have so far should be a staggering leap from my trusty 3080! Which has been a fantastic workhorse. Excited to see benchmarks hopefully popping up before the official retail releases in Feb
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Same here. Just gotta save some money. At least it will be a decent improvement over the 4070 Ti (originally planned as 4080 12GB but most people think it should be 4070, but that's another story). Just using the Far Cry data, I'm hoping to see about 20% improvement in rasterization as my use case is mostly doing distributed computing. Considering it has 16GB vram (vs 12GB) and $50 cheaper than the 4070 Ti at launched, it should be a decent card. Anything much less than 20% rasterization improvement, I may just hold off.
 
KazeoHin said:
Well, the best performance-per-dollar will probably be something AMD

But nobody will buy it.

so the best bang-for-buck NVIDIA GPU is probably the 5070 Ti.
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I would not be so certain.
All depends on their rasterization and RT performance, price and FSR4 quality and implementation in games.
If card performs decent and is cheap it will sell.
 
I am thinking gaming second, diddling with local AI 1st, so maybe AMD could have a place and the right price.
 
pututu said:
Nvidia just announced the price for 5070, 5070 Ti, 5080 and 5090.

5090 is out of my budget. Knowing that individual use case and how much spare money one's have may sway the decision on what model to buy, let's keep this simple, just by looking at the cores/performance, memory, clock speed and price and exclude overclocking potential/headroom until we have actual reviews.

I'm sure Nvidia will roll out the Ti/Ti Super/Super series in the near future, which may change this assumption but let's discuss what what we know for now.

It seems to me that 5070 Ti might be a good choice? I particularly like the memory bandwidth of 256-bit bus which relative to 5080 is about 8.8% slower per the leak but still having 16GB and 256-bit memory bus width interface. Let's discuss this among the 5000 series card first that was just announced. Granted if 4000 series card drop significantly in the second hand market, it could change this but let's put that aside first until actual review is out.

50705070 Ti vs 50705070 Ti 5080 vs 5070 Ti5080
Cuda cores6144+45.9%8960+20%10752
AI tensor cores988 AI TOPS+42.3%1406 TOPS+28.1%1801 AI TOPS
Ray tracing cores94 TFLOPS+41.5%133 TFLOPS+28.6%171 TFLOPS
Base clock2.16 GHz+6.5%2.30 GHz0%2.30 GHz
Boost clock2.51 GHz-2.4%2.45 GHz-6.9%2.62 GHz
Memory12GB+33.3%16GB0%16GB
Price$549+36.4%$749+33.4%$999
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Why not consider a 4080?
 
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Why not consider a 4080?
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You mean 4080 plain without the super? Yes, I will but the ebay price (US only) for used 4080 is still above $749 currently. I think the 4080 price is still holding well until the 5070 Ti/5080 actual review comes out and then the price will adjust accordingly. It should be quite soon (maybe in Feb/Mar). Will see. I also expect 5070 Ti to be more power efficient than 4080 for my used case (i.e. distributed computing which I run 24/7 for several weeks continuously)
 
Looking like I should return my 7900xtx and grab a 5070ti on release..!?

I can return up until Jan 31st. Hope for availability.
 
I will bet almost no chance of getting a 5070 ti that early. It's also probably going to be a wash at best on raster performance vs a 7900xtx. So it'll come down to what do you want more? 8GB more ram, or more power efficiency and more AI / dlss4?

If you get rid of your card it could be months before you get another, depending on the frenzy.
 
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