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they have something that noone else have. They then jack up at any price they want. The airlines does that for decades. There is a report from places like BBC talks about 2 competing airlines, same source and target location, same price. But the other airline has another route from same source to a neighbor city (very near the other target location), but several times the price, because they are the only one that has that route
2080ti over HDMI you are only going to get 4K 60Hz at 4K. Limitation of the HDMI spec on the card
forgive my english i use google translate.
Do you have shot running 120hz on the C1 at 4K. It isn't possible on a 2080Ti with the HDMI spec unless it is running 4:2:2 I think?
You can have 4K 120 Hz if you set it to 8 bit color, 4:2:0 chroma subsampling and turn off HDR.
None of your shots so far show you running 4K @ 120Hz, they are all 1440P.
Try adding 4:2:0 support in CRU. One of the extension boxes has a tickbox for it.
nothing's not working
Well, there is this
50 cm is too close. I wouldn't be able to use the display in such close range. 80cm is the minimum, imo.
The 42" is not for you. IMO it needs 80-100 cm viewing distance. You could use the "shrink screen" feature to shrink it to a 27" screen but then why not just get a 32" 4K screen like the Neo G7/G8 instead or wait until next year for maybe more options?
I just measured 50cm and agree. Wow, that's close! That seems too close to sit to any screen, lol.
Yeah, this is too close. I have a 80cm deep desk and it feels perfect on it (probably making it look like a 32 inch at 50cm)
Looks like a problem with the TV on 2 counts
Game at 110cm (43"), C2 42" -> utterly fantastic if you are in to high quality pixels. At 50cm it would definitely be too close for me, had that problem with the 50" Sony X90J where it was just too big for most things except games, one could get use to it. C2 on the 3090 everything works, 10bit, HDR, 120hz, GSync . . . With the fastest pixel response time I've seen that blows VA panels away. I have a 1440p 144hz monitor which use to look amazing compared to my other monitors, now, well it looks like crap and even my Sony 120hz 50" looks anemic compared to the C2. Anyways the C2 turned out better than I expected.
There are no DP 2.x displays on the market yet. First ones coming next year. Whether we will see OLEDs in that group is unknown.
My reason for my distance is eyesight is sharp and in focus. . .
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50cm = ~ 20 inches which is a really poor view distance for larger screens imo. I would rule that out entirely myself.
Somewhere around the ~65 PPD to 80 PPD point is optimal on a 4k without shrinking or growing the screen too much to perspective and while keeping it in your binocular+focal human viewpoint. We can benefit from much higher PPD though. We'd need like 150PPD or more before we could get away from having to mask poor PPD using text sub-sampling and graphics Anti-Aliasing.
Text sub-sampling and AA in DX/game engines start to compensate enough at around 60 PPD . . . which is ~29" view on a 42" 4k, 33.5" view on a 48" 4k, both at 64 deg viewing angle. Note that while text-ss heavily massaged and perhaps using alt text subsampling methods are able to compensate enough here (WOLED subpixels prob benefit from a little farther than 60PPD point though), and AA in games can compensate enough at 60PPD - there is no AA on the 2D desktop itself outside of text-ss so desktop graphics and imagery typically remain uncompensated and more pixelated.
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60 to 80 PPD ranges on 4k screens
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42" 4k flat: 64deg viewing angle = 29" view distance = 60 PPD
42" 4k flat: 55deg viewing angle = 35" view distance = 70 PPD
42" 4k flat: 48 deg viewing angle = ~ 41" view distance = 80 PPD <----- view distance makes an equilateral triangle pyramid/cone viewing angle with the screen surface as the base of the pyramid, so you can see the bulk of the screen surface better
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48" 4k flat: 64 deg viewing angle = 33.5" view distance = 60 PPD
48" 4k flat: 55 deg viewing angle = ~ 40" view distance = 70 PPD
48" 4k flat: 48 deg viewing angle = 47" view distance = 80 PPD <----- view distance makes an equilateral triangle pyramid/cone viewing angle with the screen surface as the base of the pyramid, so you can see the bulk of the screen surface better
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Human binocular field and color vision discrimination is within 50 deg to 60 deg.
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42" 16:9 screen = somewhere in between 39" view distance at 50deg (77 PPD) and ~32" view at 60 deg (64 PPD)
48" 16:9 screen = somewhere in between 45" view distance at 50deg (77 PPD) and ~36" view at 60 deg (64 PPD)
(*rough numbers, screen sizes are actually slightly smaller than 42" and 48")
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"Eye fatigue zone" and Screen non-uniformity "gradient" zone
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When you sit closer than 50 - 60 deg viewing angle, you push the extents of the screen outside of that "binocular field" more and more. This causes a larger and larger "eye fatigue zone" the closer you sit, and on OLED and VA screens this exacerbates the screen shift/darkening or color shift/screen non-uniformity "gradient" issue on the sides making it larger and larger in the same way. This while at the same time lowering your PPD below where text-ss and AA can mask it enough (on a 4k screen, 8k would have double the 4k PPD at any given distance).
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Solid blue is when sitting at 1000R curve's "focal point" or radius. 1000R = 1000mm = ~ 39.5". When viewed from the focal point, all points on the screen surface are equidistant from your eyeballs.
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Personally I'd just buy a slim spine TV stand, the kind with a flat floor foot or caster wheels. Then just move your desk back enough from the screen since the screen would be completely decoupled from the desk at that point (other than cable umbilical cord). You don't need a gigantic desk, you just need to separate the screen from the desk, assuming you have the room space.
In the same vein you could alternately put the stand in the room and put your back to the wall facing the desk out from a wall or corner, doing some cable management (mayvbe even some cable tubing/boxing conduit, anti trip strip, etc. or something) so there's not a rain of cable vines facing the room.
Probably a smart purchase as it seems like the 2023 C2 (C3?) won't have much upgrades over the C2.
