luminousone
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Waiting for that "Baby Threadripper" myself. Me needs mah Pcie lanes!
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Sometimes you have to feed the inner nerd. In your case though, do you think the upgrade to a 3700X would even be worth it? You're looking at $600 minimum for a 15% increase in IPC but loss of 4 cores, which almost seems like a sidegrade at best.
It really depends on the type of multi-tasking you do. I have windows open everywhere when I work. Excel, Photoshop, and all kinds of things (including games) may be running at that time but I never noticed any boost in performance or responsiveness going from my 8c/16t Core i7 5960X @ 4.5GHz to a 12c/24t AMD Threadripper 2920X using PBO or a manual overclock to 4.2GHz on all cores. The only thing I've ever done on my own PC that I've noticed that much of an improvement with was multi-tasking and having multiple VM's running in the back ground. That's where I've seen the benefit of additional cores. That said, I have no desire to do that on my gaming rig.
I've been running HEDT systems for years, but mostly because I've needed the extra PCIe lanes for one reason or another. At this point, I think I've pretty much figured out how to work around that. My next upgrade will probably be a Ryzen 3000 series CPU. However, I am not sure if I want to spring for the 3900X or not. The nerd in me wants the Ryzen 9 3950X, but truthfully, I'd be better served by the 3700X or the 3800X and using the extra cash to buy another one of those 1TB Inland SSD's or something.
I'm the opposite, I've always had HEDT rigs but I've rarely done anything work load wise that justified them. In part, I've done it because I wanted to have them and I can afford it. But now that HEDT processors have gone from $1,000 on the upper end to almost $2,000, it's beyond even what I'm willing to pay for bragging rights. I came to the realization that a standard Ryzen rig or Core i9 9900K would be far better for my needs than anything in the HEDT space would be.
The most ridiculous machine I've ever had was a dual LGA 771 Skulltrail system with two Core 2 Extreme QX9775's at 4.0GHz. I had eight cores back when it wasn't even possible to have that many in a single CPU. At least, not in a desktop.
I definitely wanted to wait but the geeky itch got the better of me.
I was goofing around the web and Microcenter happened to have the 3900x in stock, so ... bingo bango ... weekend free time down the drain as I transplanted parts into a new rig.
I'm not waiting around for the 3950X because I think 12 cores (at that speed) will probably be enough even for my workloads - maybe even overkill, as I'm not exactly suffering with the 2700X I have in here right now. The line between mainstream and HEDT is becoming very fuzzy. That's real promising for folks like me. I don't have to make as many tradeoffs. With Gen 1 Zen, I had to eat up to a 20% gaming performance drop to get the multithreaded performance I wanted, and I sacrificed Photoshop performance for compiling/video/rendering performance. With the Zen+ chip, single thread got a nice boost. Less sacrifice.
With a 3900X it's like I'm hardly leaving any single threaded performance worth mentioning on the table, and getting +50% cores/threads at the same time, and for non-HEDT pricing! It's a beautiful thing, mang.
Although I'm glad Destiny 2 isn't a game I give a damn about.
Waiting for a fix sucked. I want to upgrade but it's the game I've been playing the most lately. I haven't seen a processor or platform compatibility issue like this since the late 1990's.
How has the fix worked? Any other negative side effects. I'm already running a beta bios so I'm a little apprehensive about also running beta chipset drivers.
Thanks for the update. My Destiny 2 performance "felt" ok but I didn't actually test it and the new chipset drivers appear to have broken my MSI Afterburner OSD
I want to wait and see what the next Threadripper and Intel HEDT are. I've always stuck with the consumer stuff and envied the longevity of the big dogs. Not cheaping out this time around and want 16 cores or more, quad channel memory, and PCIe 4 or 5. No good reason other than it would be fucking awesome.
It is awesome, but the pricing of the CPU's has gotten way out of control on that side. I'd probably buy those CPU's anyway, except that I can't really make use of the extra cores. So I'm in essence spending two to three times (or more) money for a processor that isn't actually faster for my usage. That's not to say I'll never be on HEDT again, there is every probability I will. But unfortunately, I have not been satisfied by my Threadripper's performance in gaming which is what's leading me back towards the mainstream options.
In Ryzen Master under gaming mode yab you can turn off a CCD? Might be worth a try. For the 3950x that would give 8 cores vice 6 for the 3900x. Have not seen any test done doing this for games.I'm going to actually try a Ryzen 5 3600X and see what happens with Destiny 2. I suspect it might actually work better than the Ryzen 9 3900X due to only having a single CCD.
In Ryzen Master under gaming mode yab you can turn off a CCD? Might be worth a try. For the 3950x that would give 8 cores vice 6 for the 3900x. Have not seen any test done doing this for games.
9900k or 3700X/3900X?
Call me curious.
That's a good question. I'm leaning towards Ryzen, but given that gaming is more demanding than anything I do productivity wise, Intel would be a good fit for me. I also don't have to deal with the BS of memory compatibility and so on. I'm half tempted to stay on Threadripper and just deal with it until the next HEDT options are released from Intel and AMD.
Same...i just hope this extra time they have given themselves they are actually producing the chips.... i ordered my 3900x on the 7th i still haven't seen it, i hope your producing emm shits right now, so when people click order in September, that shits delivered....
Waiting for that "Baby Threadripper" myself. Me needs mah Pcie lanes!
$800 and if your lucky you can boost to 4.7ghz on one core launching snipping tool
Current 3900x owners are only hitting 4500 to 4550 peak for just mere seconds at the most.
3950x is probably going to be even harder to hit its peak and I am guess the best silicon would hit 4600 max. Unless your exotic cooling and even then its not gauranteed.
Current 3900x owners are only hitting 4500 to 4550 peak for just mere seconds at the most.
3950x is probably going to be even harder to hit its peak and I am guess the best silicon would hit 4600 max. Unless your exotic cooling and even then its not gauranteed.
honestly if someones buying the 3950 for it's boost clock then they have no business owning the processor most likely.
Current 3900x owners are only hitting 4500 to 4550 peak for just mere seconds at the most.
3950x is probably going to be even harder to hit its peak and I am guess the best silicon would hit 4600 max. Unless your exotic cooling and even then its not gauranteed.
Current 3900x owners are only hitting 4500 to 4550 peak for just mere seconds at the most.