3600x 3700x , 3800x vs 9900K for gaming

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helo i am interesting to buy one from these 4 cpus for gaming in 1440p. i have the rtx2080.


the performance in 1440p gaming between these 4 cpus which is better?

the 3700x is more futureproof against the 3600x?? for the gaming?/

if i will buy the 3700x or 3800x will last me for games in 1440p for 3 years??
because a lot of games will support and have benefits from the 8 cores??
 
More cores will obviously return more fps in the future but right now the 9900K is still tops for strictly gaming. Also, the 9900K competes with the 3900x not the lower cpus. I'm not sure how you arrived at that judgement. Between the 9900K and 3900x, that's a no brainer the 3900x wins.
 
This is definitely a strange comparison. Realistically, you won't notice a large difference between any of them at 1440p. I have a 3600x and it worked fine at 1440p with the 2080 Super I had. Personally, I would either get at least a 3700x and strongly consider a 3900x if buying AMD, and if you're buying Intel, I'd wait and see what the 10th gen chips look like before I dropped $400+ on a 9900k.
 
a lot of games will support and have benefits from the 8 cores '


so the 3800x is more future proof for gaming
 
The 3700x is less than 10% behind the 9900k in most games. That's not really noticeable for most gamers (and not worth paying nearly twice the price! )

It also offers identical productivity performance to the 9900k!

8-core is the future. Might as well jump up!
 
The 9900k is also on a dead platform, the new 10k chips require a new socket and boards. AMD has one more cpu with Zen 3 coming out at the end of the year, and you still have upgrade paths within Zen 2 with 3900 and 3950.
 
if i will buy the 3700x or 3800x will last me for games in 1440p for 3 years??
because a lot of games will support and have benefits from the 8 cores??
 
t-tex said:
also when zen 3 will come?? do we have releases dates??
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It doesn't really matter. You'll have the option to upgrade from a board you buy now. You won't have an option if you opt for the 9900k.

A somewhat prudent choice may be a 3600(x) now and then drop in a Zen 3 chip later if you don't mind upgrading, selling, etc.
 
if i will buy the 3700x or 3800x will last me for games in 1440p for 3 years??
 
also if i will buy now 3600 or 3700x which motherboard are you suggested me to buy for to upgrade later for zen 4?? with the motherboard which i will buy now..
 
kirbyrj said:
It doesn't really matter. You'll have the option to upgrade from a board you buy now. You won't have an option if you opt for the 9900k.

A somewhat prudent choice may be a 3600(x) now and then drop in a Zen 3 chip later if you don't mind upgrading, selling, etc.
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Yeah, a 3600 is a good value chip for now! Buy the Zen 3-based 4000-series on discount in another year or two.

Zen 3 is expected around August, so it's going to be awhile. I would just purchase the 3600 now then upgrade to as 4700x (8 core) or 4900x (12 core) when youi need it.

You should get about 15% higher perfirmance per-core with Zen 3, and games wll eventually jump up to 8 cores. So eventualy, you'll get a total gaming performace increase of 50% over your 3600!

Zen 4 will require a a new socket, and new DDR5 ram. You won't need to upgrade to that anytime soon.
 
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which motherboard are you suggested me to buy for to upgrade later for zen 4?? with the motherboard which i will buy now..
 
t-tex said:
which motherboard are you suggested me to buy for to upgrade later for zen 4?? with the motherboard which i will buy now..
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I would just buy an entry-level x570 motherboard. You'll have all the upgrade options you''ll want to use available, so you'll get a nice life out of it!

This has some good recommendations:

https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-x570-motherboards/

Also, if you live near a Microcenter, they have an the best deal on that 3600:

https://www.microcenter.com/product...m4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler

And you can bundle a motherboard to get $20 off the combo.

Just so we're clear here: Zen 3 is as ar as Socket AM4 goes. But the consoles that are going to be released later this year will all have Zen version 2. They will use an undercloked 3700x (8 cores)
 
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t-tex said:
which motherboard are you suggested me to buy for to upgrade later for zen 4?? with the motherboard which i will buy now..
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High end Asus or MSI is my suggestion...We still have many good years of use out of the AM4 platform and as far as i know we still have one last unreleased series of cpus coming out before our boards go EOL. Even is there wasnt, you could always drop in a 3900x/3950x later on done the line. As for today i would drop in 3800x and call it a day
 
my question is what to dO?? TO buy the 3600 or to wait for the next zen 3>?>?

this is my question and i dont know what to do??

will the zen 3 will more powerfull from zen 2>?>? and 9900k and 10900k??
 
The 3700x is about 10% slower than the 9900k in most games.

The Zen 3 based 4700x should be 5-10% faster than the 9900k in games.

The 10900k is just a 9900k with 2 cores added, and 300 mhz higher speed. The core architecture is the same as the 9900k, so you just get a 5% performance bump from the clock speed increase. The extra cores will do nothing in current games.

Zen 3 is the best value for gaming coming out.. While the 3700x does deliver 20% faster performance in productivity apps, it's only a 10% increase in most games. Most people assume it's the CCX latency plus external memory controller that's slowing things up, and the CCX iis being remove with Zen 3. you're also getting the same amount of L3 cache as is currently in the 3950x in a single 8-core (which should calm the high latency memory). That should be enough to more than make up the gaming-only IPC deficit currently suffered by Zen 2 (and every other app should see a similar increase).

See here for a 4ghz 8-core IPC comparison. The 3700x is not a slam dunk upgrade for your 2700x, but waiting for Zen 3 almost certainly would be:

https://www.techspot.com/article/1876-4ghz-ryzen-3rd-gen-vs-core-i9/
 
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and me i believe that zen 3 will be the best value against 9900k and 10900k
 
you said that The 3700x is about 10% slower than the 9900k in most games. you mean in 1440p or 1080p???
 
The issue to me is mother boards prices as about Sep 2019 I was getting refurbished boards for around $45 to $75 and I flashed them which made stepping into gen 3 Ryzen more affordable even at $199 for a 3600 then . now Newegg jacked price up some .
 
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you said that The 3700x is about 10% slower than the 9900k in most games. you mean in 1440p or 1080p???
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When testing processor limits, the usually run games at 1080p, with the fastest video card available.


All thgame tests in this review are 1080p Ultra: The 1080p means the GPU is unlikly to be the limiting factor, and the Ultra settings means the CPU is as stressed as it's going to get.

https://www.techspot.com/article/18...m/article/1876-4ghz-ryzen-3rd-gen-vs-core-i9/
 
why they dont test the games in 1440p/?and they do tests only in 1080p?
 
t-tex said:
why they dont test the games in 1440p/?and they do tests only in 1080p?
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They don't test in 1440p fr an IPC test like this one.

If you're running at 1440p, and not running a 2080 Ti, then I doubt you'll be hitting anywhere near those numbers.

What is your current video card, and what if your target framerate/ games you play?
 
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i have the rtx 2080.. also tell me something.. why they dont test most games in 1440p?? can you tell me the reasons please/?
 
t-tex said:
i have the rtx 2080.. also tell me something.. why they dont test most games in 1440p?? can you tell me the reasons please/?
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They do!

https://www.techspot.com/review/1869-amd-ryzen-3900x-ryzen-3700x/

There's just no fucking point to testing higher resolutions when you're trying to find out thew maximum speeds a processor is capable of. The IPC test telly you in percentage how much faster a processor is. It does noit care what resolution your video card runs at.

This is the same reason why they use a 9900k when testing video cards. Not everyone owns a fucking 9900k, but it will ,tell you a lot more accurate performance comparisons than if you ran the test on a lowly core i3 9100.
 
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as i see in this video in the 1440p the difference is 0 corect??

i am saying you dont see difference in 1440p between 3600 x,, 9900k and 3900x in this video
 
t-tex said:
as i see in this video in the 1440p the difference is 0 corect??

i am saying you dont see difference in 1440p between 3600 x,, 9900k and 3900x in this video
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GPU 101, the higher the resolution, the less important the cpu becomes. Oh and conversely the gpu becomes the bottleneck.
 
but in some cases some titles in 1440p are cpu botle because some games like assaseen grid are hungry for 6 and 8 cores corect??
 
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but in some cases some titles in 1440p are cpu botle because some games like assaseen grid are hungry for 6 and 8 cores corect??
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Not really. See here:

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With 8 high-performance cores, it's GPU-limited at 1080p And of course it becomes a cakewalk at 1440p.

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If you're runninf a 2700x, your RTX 2080- is almost certainly going to be GPU-limited at 1440p.

Most folks only care about being CPU-limited if they're playing a competitive FPS online. Fore most other games, you're going to be GPU-limited.
 
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