34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

robbiekhan said:
Hmm my screen has now been on for almost all night and I just enabled DP 1.2 in the OSD. I recall previously that the screen flickered even on Windows desktop but not any more...

I re-calibrated while it has been in 1.2 mode and can't spot any immediate differences. either. Maybe whites are a little more purer I don't know, maybe that's just a placebo but I'll leave it be on 1.2 and monitor (heh) what happens.

I'll leave the screen off for a few hours now to cool down and see if it flickers on a cold boot and if it does then we may be on to something here.
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I turned DP 1.2 on then rebooted my machine and since the reboot no problems. Previously I enabled it without the reboot and had issues.

Also I didn't know if someone with a calibrated display could post their settings?
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Calibrated displays settings are really useless for anyone else except who owns that monitor, too much variance. You'd just be tricking yourself into thinking the settings are 'good'.
 
Tephnos said:
Calibrated displays settings are really useless for anyone else except who owns that monitor, too much variance. You'd just be tricking yourself into thinking the settings are 'good'.
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Hell, even just calibrating the monitor when you first turn it on as opposed to after it's good and hot will give pretty wildly different values. The white point and luminosity will creep for a good hour and drop quickly when you turn it off. A good calibration software suite will take lots and lots of measurements and take a good half hour on its own constantly checking white point and black point the whole way to watch for "drift".
 
robbiekhan said:
Hmm my screen has now been on for almost all night and I just enabled DP 1.2 in the OSD. I recall previously that the screen flickered even on Windows desktop but not any more...

I re-calibrated while it has been in 1.2 mode and can't spot any immediate differences. either. Maybe whites are a little more purer I don't know, maybe that's just a placebo but I'll leave it be on 1.2 and monitor (heh) what happens.

I'll leave the screen off for a few hours now to cool down and see if it flickers on a cold boot and if it does then we may be on to something here.
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Mine has lines and crackles w/Display Port 1.2 enabled for the first few minutes when I first turn on my computer (cold boot) every time. If I unplug it from the video card and re-plug it in, it goes away and functions fine until the next cold boot. I am using an AMD R9 295X2, so it could either be an AMD issue or a firmware issue with the monitor when cold.
 
Bluesun311 said:
Hell, even just calibrating the monitor when you first turn it on as opposed to after it's good and hot will give pretty wildly different values. The white point and luminosity will creep for a good hour and drop quickly when you turn it off. A good calibration software suite will take lots and lots of measurements and take a good half hour on its own constantly checking white point and black point the whole way to watch for "drift".
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The inbuilt one takes about 10 minutes or so, so best to do it once the monitor has been on for a good while and warmed up.
 
brokenblade30 said:
Mine has lines and crackles w/Display Port 1.2 enabled for the first few minutes when I first turn on my computer (cold boot) every time. If I unplug it from the video card and re-plug it in, it goes away and functions fine until the next cold boot. I am using an AMD R9 295X2, so it could either be an AMD issue or a firmware issue with the monitor when cold.
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Yours sound like a similar problem I had with my first, which I posted some pictures earlier in the thread. It had nothing to do with the port I was using but the monitor itself. I have since then gotten a replacement, the new one is perfect and I haven't anything different with the settings or the setup.

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Basically I had this overlayed on top for about 20 minutes every cold boot. By the way, anybody know why it has such a shape?
 
Ok been on DisplayPort 1.2 for a few hours now and only seen 2 flickers in Windows. In games like Grid 2 that switched to 50Hz with Vsync on when not using DisplayPort 1.2 still switches to 50Hz.

I've been watching some UHD trailers on Youtube and have noticed that some are anamorphic BUT when maximised their letterboxes are a part of the video itself so you get a video rectabgle in the middle with boxes on all sides. Other trailers are done properly and will fill the whole screen which is great.

Guardians of the Galaxy has a mix of both, one trailer was 21:9, the other was a botch job:

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The new X-Men trailer is glorious in UHD:

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I hope we start to see new trailers fully exploit 21:9 by being made properly like the above.
 
Oh god... this is some full on nerd porn. I've just bought a couple of really nice BluRays... old movies I've never seen in this quality. I've pretty much had it with black bars on movies. Eyeing one of these pretty seriously but they are going to become immensely popular and I suspect there will be knockoffs available soon--I can't stomach a G on a display I will ONLY use for watching movies.

:confused: The VA cone effect is gonna start to get pretty obscene at these ratios no? I wonder if they will make VAs this size at all. Lets have a panoramic panel that is seamless the entire way around. Build it around me.
 
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Hey how does HDMI sources respond on monitor

On mine my PC i set to 1:1
then change to cablebox via HDMI. Its always stretched, and I can't get it to show native 1080i signal with sidebars.

Also when I go back to PC on displayport, its ratio is set to wide.

Are your monitor responding similarly ?

thanks
 
What movie software allows you to play Blu-Ray (2.39) without the bars? PowerDVD is letterboxed.
 
ptrout said:
Hey how does HDMI sources respond on monitor

On mine my PC i set to 1:1
then change to cablebox via HDMI. Its always stretched, and I can't get it to show native 1080i signal with sidebars.

Also when I go back to PC on displayport, its ratio is set to wide.

Are your monitor responding similarly ?

thanks
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I've got a PS3 connected, seems fine with AR in OSD set to "Original" - You have windowsboxes either side but the viewspace is no different to a 1440P 27" monitor.

Also, more porn:

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Oh yeah, haven't seena single flicker with DisplayPort 1.2 enabled since this afternoon. I've also ditched the BETA nVidia drivers and installed the latest WHQL.
 
So when you're watching blu rays, does the monitor scale the resolution up to 1440p or is it 1080p with a 21:9 aspect ratio
 
The film itself remains 1080P (cinematic aspect ratio, no letterboxes) , I just maximise the video window so it fills the screen. the monitor isn't changing anything :) picture remains sharp of course and looks absolutely epic!
 
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I had quite a bit of fun today. I hooked up all my monitor to my 2012 RMBP. It pumped a combined 2880x1800, 1920x1200, 3440x1440, and 2560x1440 pixels at once. Everything was still butter smooth with several 4K youtube videos playing, mplayerx playing a blueray rip, aperture running through some photos, and a couple rdp sessions running. I'm loving this setup!
 
Thanks everyone for posting info and pics, notably robbiekhan's high detail photos and especially the youtube video.

I got an offer for $500 for my cinema display and it's vesa mount bracket(that I bought separately) + the 19" 1440x900TN and the 19"'s cheap monoprice monitor arm. I was hoping for $500 for the cinema display and a little extra for the 19" + arm but I'm considering the offer. If I sell it I'd consider replacing the desktop/apps ips high ppi part of my desk with this 21:9 LG (I have a really big 3-panel desk with large middle portion+ desk "wing" on either side).
I'm still hoping to put the asus 120hz 2560x g-sync TN next to this or other ips someday though as long as the asus doesn't have really bad AG or other issues when the first adopters report back. Otherwise I'll still have 27" samsung A750D 120hz 1080p for 1st/3rd person gaming.
 
Nebbie said:
Yours sound like a similar problem I had with my first, which I posted some pictures earlier in the thread. It had nothing to do with the port I was using but the monitor itself. I have since then gotten a replacement, the new one is perfect and I haven't anything different with the settings or the setup.


Basically I had this overlayed on top for about 20 minutes every cold boot. By the way, anybody know why it has such a shape?
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So how did you go about getting a replacement? Did you get it straight from LG or from the place you purchased? Does everyone who is having the DP 1.2 issue have a defective monitor? Also what video card are you using? Nvidia or AMD?
 
A great demo video to try is Tears of Steel. I suggest downloading it and playing it back with a standalone player (I used MPC-HC on Win 8.1).
 
Well, I ended up returning the LG monitor. The back light bleed (on the left side) was annoying; especially on a $1000 monitor.

Went to Microcenter today to exchange it. Their system showed 1 in stock, but they couldn't find it. Then, they tried to reproduce my issue and tried to justify that the bleed was as "expected". Spent over 40 minutes with them hooking up my unit to their demo Macs and finally went to a back office and showed the sales guy the bleed areas. Their demo unit looked a lot better. Since they didn't have another unit in stock, I was offered the demo unit as an exchange, but I didn't bite. I don't know what the demo unit has been through and the demo displays never turn off so there's the chance of burn-in. Sad to say, I returned it.
 
metril said:
Well, I ended up returning the LG monitor. The back light bleed (on the left side) was annoying; especially on a $1000 monitor.

Went to Microcenter today to exchange it. Their system showed 1 in stock, but they couldn't find it. Then, they tried to reproduce my issue and tried to justify that the bleed was as "expected". Spent over 40 minutes with them hooking up my unit to their demo Macs and finally went to a back office and showed the sales guy the bleed areas. Their demo unit looked a lot better. Since they didn't have another unit in stock, I was offered the demo unit as an exchange, but I didn't bite. I don't know what the demo unit has been through and the demo displays never turn off so there's the chance of burn-in. Sad to say, I returned it.
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I am doing the same tomorrow for the same reasons. I hope they don't give me a hard time.
 
sphinx99 said:
What is the benefit of trying DisplayPort 1.2 mode?
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Not sure honestly, I've tried to find a difference with it on or off but nada.

Strangely, the popping noises and flickering I first had with DP 1.2 enabled seem to have gone away completely, enabled it this morning and haven't had an issue all day. Haven't changed anything else on my system either...
 
brokenblade30 said:
So how did you go about getting a replacement? Did you get it straight from LG or from the place you purchased?
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I (luckily) made somewhat of a purchase mistake which ended me with 2 orders of the same monitor that came within a week of each other, so technically I didn't get an exchange. Sorry, not much help here i know.
 
This is what Adorama sent back to me after asking about their return policy on UM95.

Hi XXXXX,

Thank you for contacting Adorama.

According to our return policy, the item you ordered LO34UM95 is a returnable item.

TV Return Policy
Up to and including 47” sealed in the original manufacturer box never opened, may be returned. (We recommend to apply insurance on shipment)

At Adorama, we strive to make our customers return process hassle free. As all returns must meet our guidelines, please review our full Return policy carefully.

http://www.adorama.com/help/returnPolicy

If you have any further questions, or require additional assistance, feel free to contact us. You may reply to this e-mail or call our toll-free phone number: (800)223-2500.
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If anyone with a non-problematic 34UM95 is having buyer's remorse and cannot return for some reason, let me know with PM ;)
 
i think it's mainly to keep it in spec with the latest DP standards? LG say you get the 64x richer colours when using a DisplayPort cable too but don't say if that's with 1.2 on or off. I guess it's also to smooth gradients but to test that I need to find a good gradient chart I can compare with 1.2 on and off. Does anyone know of a site that offers one?
 
robbiekhan said:
i think it's mainly to keep it in spec with the latest DP standards? LG say you get the 64x richer colours when using a DisplayPort cable too but don't say if that's with 1.2 on or off. I guess it's also to smooth gradients but to test that I need to find a good gradient chart I can compare with 1.2 on and off. Does anyone know of a site that offers one?
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My sense is that with 1.2 on, and a GPU that can send out 10-bit color, the display could attempt rendering it with 8+2 FRC. If correct this would lead me to believe that unless I swap out my GTX780 for a Quadro, there is no value.

I have a laptop with on-board Quadro GPU (K4000M I believe) and will give it a shot later to see if I can enable/confirm 10-bit display.
 
Hello all,

my LG34UM95 is already ordered. I will be happy if I can unpack my new display soon. Now I'm thinking about a good second monitor. LG34UM95 will be my main monitor. So now I'm not sure which second monitor I should take.

On the one hand it could look great if I would buy a similar display (27" with thin border, maybe LG). On the other hand the second monitor should have the same height (1440) like LG34UM95.

The second monitor will be use for
- 40% DVBViewer (watching TV)
- 50% surfing and work (VM Workstation)
- 10% Photoshop / Lightroom.

All 27" displays with height 1440 have unfornutaley a thick border. :(

Which second monitor would you prefer?
 
Thats why I returned mine..The back light glow/bleed in the bottom left AND right corners were too much for a 1k monitor. I noticed on a few of folks pics the bleed was bad..but on some there was none. Weird. If the monitor goes down to 599.99 or so I might try it again. Other wise gonna wait on 4k 60hz IPS monitor.
 
Quartz-1 said:
If you find you like the LG, why not get a second?
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I don't need a second 21:9 monitor (and I don't have enough space for a second 34" display). Moreover all sports / news programs are in 16:9.

LG-27MP75HM with 1440 height would be perfect. I don't know how a 1080p display work with a 1440p display.
 
I have a 1080p 120hz samsung a750d next to a 2560x1440 ips cinema display. I do most desktop/app stuff on the 2560x and use the 1080p almost exculsively for gaming and video/youtube links. It would be a lot more useful if they were both the same resolution.

I'd like to get an asus PG278Q as long as the colors are saturated like my samsung's and there aren't any other issues with them. I don't want a pale/washed out gaming monitor coming from the notably vibrant samsung I have. If I could swing it, I'd get the 21:9 LG 3440x1440 and put the 2560x1440 PG278Q 120hz-144hz gsync/ulmb monitor next to it for 1st/3rd person gaming, but it wouldn't be cheap. Will have to see how it goes. I might get $500 for the acd+19" monitor sale to take some of the sting out of the LG if I decide to buy it. The PG278Q has been delayed a few months so far.
 
My current plan is to put my 28" 1920x1200 LCD next to a UM95 and a 39" tv (that I am currently gaming on) probably on the other side. I may put the tv above. Not sure yet. If I was buying a monitor to go along with the UM95 then a 27" 1440 would be my choice. That's just me though.
 
Hm, mybe I should take 27MB85Z as second monitor. What do you think? But I don't like the thick border.
 
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Seem to be quite a few people returning this monitor due to backlight bleeding.

- Did you guys try the Cinema preset?
- Did you guys turn the brightness down to 25-35%?

This is really concerning, some people claim to have almost none. Calibration can make a huge difference for bleeding, and generally monitors come with extremely bright stock settings. On a $1k IPS panel you really shouldn't be able to notice backlight bleeding unless the picture is completely black, assuming you don't have the brightness above 40% or so.
 
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Mine has only a small bleed in lower left (like 1 cm in height and 1,5 cm wide). Way better than my previous Acer display (quite a bad one, I admit).
I keep brightness at 70%, cinema preset.
The IPS glow on the other hand can get a bit annoying depending on your position relative to the screen (a highier placed screen helps a lot in this regard).
I play games and watch movies on it, can't find a flaw and for all that matters I'm more than satisfied with it. What I would change is I would make it even larger (a 40-42inch screen would be my sweet spot - I'm crazy, I know :) ) and maybe curved.
 
@Tyrindor

I tried playing with the picture settings. I even tried turning brightness all the way down. I could still see the bleed on the left side. On this monitor, 0 brightness does not turn off the backlight.
 
metril said:
@Tyrindor

I tried playing with the picture settings. I even tried turning brightness all the way down. I could still see the bleed on the left side. On this monitor, 0 brightness does not turn off the backlight.
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I had the same issue. Sounds like we had very similar monitors.
 
FYI: For those who just want to calibrate this monitor and this monitor ALONE (and I guess all LG displays with built in calibration), you can pick up a Spyder 3 without the software off eBay for ~$60. You need the drivers to get it to work, but luckily it installs automatically after you install the software off the Datacolor website. You don't need the CD key for the Spyder 3 software to get True Color Finder to work. Now I have a calibrated display for $60.:)

Now is there a way to keep the calibrated settings while in games, or will it stay on permanently?
 
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