34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - AOC u3477pqu

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Since the 34inch 21:9 and 27 inch 16:9 are the same height, couldn't you just do a 27-34-27? Or would that be too wide?
 

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Since the 34inch 21:9 and 27 inch 16:9 are the same height, couldn't you just do a 27-34-27? Or would that be too wide?

Hope somebody makes good use of the portrait feature, and tries an Eyefinity-5 setup..

Zj2yWD1.jpg


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Since the 34inch 21:9 and 27 inch 16:9 are the same height, couldn't you just do a 27-34-27? Or would that be too wide?

27" 16:9 + 34" 21:9 + 27" 16:9 would be ridiculously wide to the point where you have to sit too far away to actually see much benefit from the setup (even with 20/20 vision), just because sitting closer will force most of the side screens out of your peripheral vision. Sure, you'll have slightly more screen real estate than 27" Eyefinity, but do you really enjoy sitting so far away from your screens that you can't even reach the little joystick button on the 34UM95 on your tiptoes?

Hope somebody makes good use of the portrait feature, and tries an Eyefinity-5 setup..

Zj2yWD1.jpg


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^ like this, there comes a point where you might as well just get a TV or projector (or if you can afford one, a 4K Projector or Eyefinity projector setup to ditch bezels completely.)

Furthermore, Eyefinity works best with 3x of the same monitor in my experience, and the support for that is bad enough (I have no experience with Nvidia Surround). Try mixing a 21:9 monitor into the middle and see how much fun you have getting most games to work.

27" x 3 is on the very edge of "acceptably wide" IMO, because unless you have a very deep desk or wallmount all of them it's just barely acceptable for most keyboard/mouse setups (and my girlfriend hates that it takes up her entire L-Shaped desk). Works great with a controller or if you have a keyboard arm that pulls away from your desk, but I dislike those because most of them become wobbly over time -- even the expensive ones.
 
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Just if everyone was curious, I e-mail AOC USA through their contact and got a short reply. Deleted some personal info

Hello Chris, yes. This is something we will be offering this fall.

David T


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Hello,

I heard AOC Europe is launching a 34" 21:9 3440x1440p U3477PQU in the next couple of months. Any news if AOC USA will be also launching it for the American market?

Thanks in advance,

I mean there's no info on exact date or pricing, but it's still some kind of confirmation it's coming to the American market as well, even when it was announced in the European division almost exclusively. I'm split between this and the LG 34UM95. I like the LG because it comes with thunderbolt connectivity, but that's really just it. Maybe a split screen between 2 sources. The AOC does offer portrait, but I do not see a necessity in it for me. And the MD price is just a little more than the AOC "msrp." Kinda willing to pay for the premium brand, even when it's the same panel.
 

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Any updates on this?

Nope.. other than an apparent delay for some reason (AOC EU changed the status from *available in August* to *available in October* a few weeks ago). And still no product page on the AOC US site.

Dunno. Something seems to be up with availability on that particular panel.. it's been a couple months since I've seen an LG 34UM95 in-stock online (they used to pop up at Amazon and Newegg for a few hours every couple of weeks and then quickly sell-out again), the LG 34UM94 has missed it's ship date at ShopBLT (and ETA is now unknown), the Dell U3415W is still MIA, and now the 2-month delay on the AOC U3477Pqu.

But.. the new curved LG 34UC97 is supposed to hit the US and EU at the end of September. Just seems kinda weird.
 

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Hope somebody makes good use of the portrait feature, and tries an Eyefinity-5 setup..

Frame-less monitors have an inner black bezel on the sides and top which ruin non-landscape multi-monitor set-ups, and make blacks and dark scenes look washed out by comparison.

Glossy Frame-less close up


Normal view (Master & Commander Blu-Ray)

Crossover 2720MDP (glossy) with custom matte bezel

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I would not wait for the Dell or expect it to be good since almost all of their recent, non-TN monitors have had 'exclusive' quality control (Dell P & U BGR sub-pixel arrangement, Uxx13 & 14H series hardware calibration and color compensation did not work properly, a few lines suffered from prolonged image retention) and performance issues (excessive overshoot ghosting, U2713HM overdrive lottery, 2 frame delays, semi-glossy cross-hatching).
 
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Nope.. other than an apparent delay for some reason (AOC EU changed the status from *available in August* to *available in October* a few weeks ago). And still no product page on the AOC US site.

Dunno. Something seems to be up with availability on that particular panel.. it's been a couple months since I've seen an LG 34UM95 in-stock online (they used to pop up at Amazon and Newegg for a few hours every couple of weeks and then quickly sell-out again), the LG 34UM94 has missed it's ship date at ShopBLT (and ETA is now unknown), the Dell U3415W is still MIA, and now the 2-month delay on the AOC U3477Pqu.

But.. the new curved LG 34UC97 is supposed to hit the US and EU at the end of September. Just seems kinda weird.


Not weird. It just tells me LG is discontinuing the current panel. Tons of returns and disgruntled customers could have alerted other manufacturers, who probably weren't willing to pay what LG was asking for it. They're either gonna look to improve it somehow to reduce the seemingly inevitable IPS glow, or they're just gonna give up on it and move to the curved panel which should drastically reduce the IPS glow (I'm not saying it drastically increases the HFOV, but the glow issue will surely improve). It seems IPS technology is not up to task to deliver the kind of quality you would expect from a $1000 monitor in this large ultrawide format.
 

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:( Pity.

I was spoiled by a 30" cinema display and went back to a shitty 24" for the time being. Got to try out my dad's 34" LG as well.
 

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really torn between this and the LG 34UM95.
want one of these to compliment the Asus ROG Swift.
 

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Hi everyone. I live in France and I recently received mine (650€). So I figured I would share some information with you guys ;)

First things first, unpacking :











All cables needed are provided : HDMI, DVI, VGA, DP and USB + power cord.





Then, I compared this monitor to the ones I have.

vs. a 24" :





vs. a 32" :







vs. a 40" (add a couple of cm of difference horizontally, due to the distance between the two screens making the 34" look bigger :






Then, let's get to serious matters, the "flaws" of this monitor...
A took a bunch of photos using settings so that the results would look like what you actually see (and not exaggerating the glow).

Front view :





From below :




From above :




From top right :





In-game, with your eyes at about 40cm from the middle of the screen and looking at the corners, IPS glow doesn't go unnoticed. It may even be disturbing in games with dark environments :








And lucky as I am, I happened to receive one with nice dead pixels :


Botton left :




Bottom right :




Top left :





Zooming in (on the blu image, the dead sub-pixel is not the white spot, but the pixel just left below this white dot) :

 

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I was about to send the monitor back, then decided this week-end to conduct a few more tests to determine whether I would ask for a replacement, or simply get reimbursed.
To my great surprise, almost all dead pixels had disappeared ! :eek:
Only two dead sub-pixels remained (top left and bottom right)
Maybe the panel needed to "heat up" a little bit :confused:
So, I'm running a pixel "revivor" software (UndeadPixel) to try to get the two sub-pixels back. I used this method to revive a dead pixel on my laptop once, and it actually worked ! So, wait and see, I have one more week to decide whether to send the monitor back.


So, I set the new monitor in place of the existing one :

Before :




After :





Then, I wanted to see the difference in FOV and image sharpness between different screen resolutions.
I took a bunch of photos using a tripod, in order to get the same viewing position to better compare the different image formats.
Initially, I hesitated between this monirot and the LGUM65 which has a screen resolution of 2560*1080. So, the idea was to determine whether it is possible to play at a lower resolution if my graphics cards can't keep up with the massive amount of pixels to render, while keeping image sharpness at an acceptable level.

TEST 1

Testing protocole
Screen resolutions :
  • 3440*1440 (native)
  • 2560*1080 "full" format (the image is stretched to fill up the screen)
  • 1920*1080 "wide" format (the image est étirée vertically to the edges, with black bars on the sides)


Games tested :
  • Battlefield 4
  • FarCry 3
  • Tomb Raider
  • DOTA 2
  • Need For Speed The Run



BF4 - 3440*1440 :




BF4 - 2560*1080 :




BF4 - 1920*1080 :





FC3 - 3440*1440 :




FC3 - 2560*1080 :




FC3 - 1920*1080 :






Tomb Raider - 3440*1440 :




Tomb Raider - 2560*1080 :




Tomb Raider - 1920*1080 :
Weirdly, the image was compressed horizontally at this resolution :





By setting the image to full screen, even at 1920*1080, the image looked normal and not stretched as it should be. I can't explain it. However, image sharpness is a notch below normal.







DOTA 2 - 3440*1440 :




DOTA 2 - 2560*1080 :




DOTA 2 - 1920*1080 :





Observations : We can clearly see that between 3440*1440 and 2560*1080, the FOV is exactly the same despite having actually less pixels rendered.


So, I skipped testing NFS at 2560*1080.


NFS - 3440*1440 :




NFS - 1920*1080 :





TEST 2

Then, I wanted to see the difference in image sharpness between 3440*1440 and 2560*1080 resolutions.
I apologize for full format photos, but the difference in sharpness cannot be seen otherwise, due to image compression.

Test 1 - 3440*1440 :




Test 1 - 2560*1080 :




The difference in sharpness is barely noticeable, due to a native blurry effect around the edges of the letters. However, if you look closely to the word "Désactivé" at the bottom on the screen, you can see that the text looks sharper in the first picture.

Test 2 - 3440*1440 :



Test 2 - 2560*1080 :




Obervations : Text definitely looks less sharp at 2560*1080, and this can be observed with text, and is almost disturbing in fast-paced games.
To my surprise, this blurry effect was more noticeable in Tomb Raider than in BF4 ; I would have imagined the opposite, given BF4 is more fast-paced.



TEST 3

Still concerning image sharpness, I also tested gaming in 2560*1440 resolution, so as to fully utilize the horizontal pixels and avoid image stretching. This should be the same as gaming on a 27" monitor.


DOTA 2 - 3440*1440 :




DOTA 2 - 2560*1440 :




Observations : The results are quite good. Sharpness is obvioulsy at it's best, and less GPU horsepower is needed to drive pixel display.
However, you can see that DOTA 2 doesn't like wide screen formats, as the HUD occupies more horizontal pixels...



Summing things up :
Gaming in 3440*1440 or 2560*1080 ?
Absolutely no difference can be observed in FOV between these two resolutions. So, those of you who don't really need the extra pixel for desktop use, and are mostly looking for game immersion while being worried about your GPU's keeping UP, a 2560*1080 native monitor like the LG 34UM65 is definitely the way to go.
However, if you do need the extra work space provided by a 3440*1440 monitor but don't have a high end configuration, you have two options :
  1. Play at 2560*1080 at the cost of image sharpness, though the loss will be acceptable for most people.
  2. Play at 2560*1440 in 16:9, at the cost of the ultra wide format but keeping image shaprness at it maximum.

Important notice : the two aforementioned resolutions are not natively proposed in games. You have to add custom resolutions in your AMD / Nvidia control panel.


To end this mini-review, here's a quick performance summary in the games tested :
(DOTA 2 and Tomb Raider are FPS limited, et NFS wasn't tested at 2560*1080)

Going down from 3440*1440 to 2560*1080 :
BF4 : +58%
FC3 : +65%

Going down from 3440*1440 to 1920*1080 :
BF4 : +87%
FC3 : +96%
NFS : +52%

Going down from 2560*1080 to 1980*1080 :
BF4 : +18%
FC3 : +19%
 

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^^Good work! Interesting recommendation: that people go with LG 34UM65 for games, to save on pixel budget.
 

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So in your experience with the monitor so far, is it good for gaming? I've got a 27" IPS and looking at getting something more immersive.
 

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^^Good work! Interesting recommendation: that people go with LG 34UM65 for games, to save on pixel budget.
Thank you :)
However, I made some more research and found out that the FOV would not vary between 3440*1440 and 2560*1080 only in games supporting HOR+ scaling (I understandd that it means the FOV is format dependent, and not resolution dependant). That may not be the case in older games.
Some info about HOR+ : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_view_in_video_games#Field_of_view_scaling_methods
So in your experience with the monitor so far, is it good for gaming? I've got a 27" IPS and looking at getting something more immersive.
Since you are already using an IPS panel, I guess the input lag of this AOC will not be any surprise to you, since you're already "used" to it. So, for gaming in your case, this monitor will really add a great deal of immersion without giving you the feeling that the panel lacks responsiveness. I myself come from an IPS panel, and haven't noticed any difference in terms of responsiveness. I must however mention that I'm not a hardcore gamer, but spend most of my gaming time in online FPS (BF4, Titanfall, COD, etc.).
The few more centimeters compared to a 27" really make the difference in my opinion. Whether your 27" is in full HD or qHD, the additionnal landscape will be the same in HOR+ supported games (i.e. most of the recent and upcoming games).
As mentioned above, if your GPU cannot keep up with the native resolution, a 2560*1080 panel will still provide with the same immersion in recent games.
I am considering moving to the LG 34UM65 for this particular reason, even though I have a couple of GTX 780. I ordered this monitor and should receive it before the end of the week. I will be able to compare it to the AOC and will keep the one which suits best my needs. I will keep you posted about my test results ;)
 
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Can you test overclocking the refresh rate by customizing it in nvidia control panel? A simple guide on how to create custom resolution/refresh in case you didn't know how to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUbVGJMrqM

I'm curious to know if the panel will go higher than the 60hz refresh rate. Say a safe rate of 75 to 85hz. I'm used to higher refresh rates now and 60hz wont cut it for me on the next monitor I purchase.
 

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Can you test overclocking the refresh rate by customizing it in nvidia control panel? A simple guide on how to create custom resolution/refresh in case you didn't know how to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUbVGJMrqM

I'm curious to know if the panel will go higher than the 60hz refresh rate. Say a safe rate of 75 to 85hz. I'm used to higher refresh rates now and 60hz wont cut it for me on the next monitor I purchase.
I'm sorry, but I'm not taking any chances of getting it fried, I'm sending it back at the end of the week.
 

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Can you test overclocking the refresh rate by customizing it in nvidia control panel? A simple guide on how to create custom resolution/refresh in case you didn't know how to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUbVGJMrqM

I'm curious to know if the panel will go higher than the 60hz refresh rate. Say a safe rate of 75 to 85hz. I'm used to higher refresh rates now and 60hz wont cut it for me on the next monitor I purchase.

If 60hz is unacceptable to you, how the hell will 75-85hz be enough of a difference to warrant spending $600+ for this (that's just a guess -- no US MSRP has been reported AFAIK, and I really expect this to release at $750+)? Or do you only care about the number and nothing else?

Unless you're interested in 21:9 aspect ratio and its many uses/advantages, it sounds like you should be looking at the ASUS Swift and other 120hz+ offerings. But 85hz is a joke and only marginally smoother than 60hz, especially when the overclock risks damaging the monitor or shortening its lifespan exponentially given its cooling capacity will not change. I could understand if these were cheaper panels, but the AOC is expected to be only slightly cheaper than LG/Dell's offerings, not $300 or something crazily different. Even then, the 34UM65 might be more up your alley due to lower resolution (meaning easier to drive at higher FPS), but I haven't heard any reports on its OC potential.
 
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If 60hz is unacceptable to you, how the hell will 75-85hz be enough of a difference to warrant spending $600+ for this (that's just a guess -- no US MSRP has been reported AFAIK, and I really expect this to release at $750+)? Or do you only care about the number and nothing else?

Unless you're interested in 21:9 aspect ratio and its many uses/advantages, it sounds like you should be looking at the ASUS Swift and other 120hz+ offerings. But 85hz is a joke and only marginally smoother than 60hz, especially when the overclock risks damaging the monitor or shortening its lifespan exponentially given its cooling capacity will not change. I could understand if these were cheaper panels, but the AOC is expected to be only slightly cheaper than LG/Dell's offerings, not $300 or something crazily different. Even then, the 34UM65 might be more up your alley due to lower resolution (meaning easier to drive at higher FPS), but I haven't heard any reports on its OC potential.

Actually 75-85hz do matter as it does help a little, not as much as 100+, but its still damn better than 60. I already own a 1440p korean that o/c just fine to 120hz (hence why I asked since I know what 75-85 hz runs like) with no issues and I've modified it to keep the chipset cool with overdriving the panel. 21:9 interests me as I want to retire the eyefinity setup I have. The 29" model has been released by Korea with just a dual DVI port to reduce input lag and allow for some overclocking. I'm looking to see if they do the same for the 34" in the near future.

Besides, it was a request for the OP which no problem if you are planning on returning, but Xinmosni I wasn't looking for your opinion
 
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You're harsh on the man. He's just sharing his opinion. Don't forget you're on a public forum and if you don't wan't other people to react on your messages, you can address people by PM ;-)
I do share Xinmosni's opinion though, but maybe it's because I'm not a 100+ Hz user and am so used to 60Hz that I won't really appreciate the difference between 60Hz and 85Hz. And personnally, I wouldn't either spend that much money and risk trashing the monitor. Maybe with one of those Korean models, for which you get a good bang for your bucks, but we're talking here of an overpriced piece of electronic which benefits from the hype of it's novelty to hit a high price tag. So this is IMHO definitely not the way to go, and would rather recommend a korean model to tinker with.
 

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You're harsh on the man. He's just sharing his opinion. Don't forget you're on a public forum and if you don't wan't other people to react on your messages, you can address people by PM ;-)
I do share Xinmosni's opinion though, but maybe it's because I'm not a 100+ Hz user and am so used to 60Hz that I won't really appreciate the difference between 60Hz and 85Hz. And personnally, I wouldn't either spend that much money and risk trashing the monitor. Maybe with one of those Korean models, for which you get a good bang for your bucks, but we're talking here of an overpriced piece of electronic which benefits from the hype of it's novelty to hit a high price tag. So this is IMHO definitely not the way to go, and would rather recommend a korean model to tinker with.

The reason I was harsh is again, I didn't ask the opinion about refresh rate with anyone else. I already own a korean overclocked monitor so I'm already well versed on what refresh rate I can handle and find acceptable to me and that includes the 85hz being a joke (NOT) as he referenced. If I had asked for an opinion I would welcome it with open arms.

Yes I realize I'm on a public forum, however all I did ask what a simple request from the OP specifically (no one else since Xinmosni doesn't own one) as I'm interested in 21:9 1440p and with a moderate refresh overclock since I realize something like 100Hz is risky for me to ask someone else who owns it and not me. He doesn't feel comfortable with doing it and I'm good with that.

Time to move on......nothing to see here.
 
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Where and when can I buy this here in the U.S. ?

It looks to be a more affordable version of the $999 LG 3440x1440 ?

Rumored U.S. pricing of $699 still in tact ?
 

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Where and when can I buy this here in the U.S. ?

It looks to be a more affordable version of the $999 LG 3440x1440 ?

Rumored U.S. pricing of $699 still in tact ?

Several months after the annoucement and AOC still isn't telling us shit in the US. Please go here and ask them about it..

http://us.aoc.com/contact


Personally, if I don't hear anything soon, AOC can go fuck themselves and I'll just spend the extra money for one of 3 LG models that are actually available in the US right now.
 

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Several months after the annoucement and AOC still isn't telling us shit in the US. Please go here and ask them about it..

http://us.aoc.com/contact


Personally, if I don't hear anything soon, AOC can go fuck themselves and I'll just spend the extra money for one of 3 LG models that are actually available in the US right now.

I would get the LG if it wasn't for that terrible stand. What's the point of a see through stand when you still have to run cables behind it which will look terrible?
 

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So where is the AOC - are they available in Europe? UK based and I'd like to buy one if it's really 30% less than the LG.

But I'm really getting a bit tired of waiting.
 

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Stores in Denmark are also claiming availability in November (the 3rd). But it will only be ~90 USD less than the LG, though I wonder if the price will go down a bit when they are actually available.
 

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FWIW, I contacted AOC support and got a reply from two different reps that stated US availability would be in November.


If 60hz is unacceptable to you, how the hell will 75-85hz be enough of a difference to warrant spending $600+ for this (that's just a guess -- no US MSRP has been reported AFAIK, and I really expect this to release at $750+)? Or do you only care about the number and nothing else?

Unless you're interested in 21:9 aspect ratio and its many uses/advantages, it sounds like you should be looking at the ASUS Swift and other 120hz+ offerings. But 85hz is a joke and only marginally smoother than 60hz, especially when the overclock risks damaging the monitor or shortening its lifespan exponentially given its cooling capacity will not change. I could understand if these were cheaper panels, but the AOC is expected to be only slightly cheaper than LG/Dell's offerings, not $300 or something crazily different. Even then, the 34UM65 might be more up your alley due to lower resolution (meaning easier to drive at higher FPS), but I haven't heard any reports on its OC potential.

Difference between 60hz and 85hz is actually quite noticeable. Even 75hz is a pretty noticeable jump. There are diminishing returns when it comes to higher refresh rates.

While 120hz is theoretically twice as smooth as 60hz, it is usually not perceived as such on an LCD monitor. I have a 144hz monitor and typically only run it at 100hz due to gamma distortions at higher refresh rates. I can do this because the difference between 100hz and 144hz is barely noticeable to me but the difference between 60hz and 100hz is very noticeable.

I would be careful criticizing someone else's question. It is great that you don't care but as someone coming from a 144hz TN panel, I would also love to know if the AOC monitor can run at 70+ hz. I'll still buy it if it can only run 60hz but it wouldn't hurt to know before hand.
 

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Really hoping this comes out in November. I will be buying a 21:9 monitor beginning of December, so I want some time to read some more reviews.

Might be trying to get this from overseas though if it isn't released. Seems like everywhere so far that I have read, is that the backlight bleed is a lot less in these AOC monitors then the LG.
 

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Thanks for the link!

Really hoping this comes out in November. I will be buying a 21:9 monitor beginning of December, so I want some time to read some more reviews.

Might be trying to get this from overseas though if it isn't released. Seems like everywhere so far that I have read, is that the backlight bleed is a lot less in these AOC monitors then the LG.

I am in the same boat. AOC is saying that the first batch had issues which is why the UK and US release has been delayed. I'm curious to see how this second batch turns out.
 

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I understand the revised release date is November, yet I see this monitor being sold in France and Germany. And Australia, Denmark and so on.

http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00171255.html#aff1051

Anyone know what these "issues" that are supposedly delaying release to the UK are and the price is supposed to be? Because if you look at the price on that site, that's 650 EUR which comes out to be £512 GBP including tax which is a good price. If the UK version comes out and, as usual, they add 25% extra because they think people here are used to being ripped off, I'm going to buy it from France anyway. But would like to know what these "issues" are.
 

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Overclockers (and AOC rep) claim that this monitor will not be officialy released in Europe until next year. :(

I am also planning to buy 34'' 21:9 monitor this year, but it seems LG 34UM95 might be the only possible choice.
 

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Overclockers (and AOC rep) claim that this monitor will not be officialy released in Europe until next year. :(

I am also planning to buy 34'' 21:9 monitor this year, but it seems LG 34UM95 might be the only possible choice.

That's bullshit. I'm incredibly tired of waiting, and will spend my money with LG or Dell, if AOC doesn't wanna sell this in the US.
 
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