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  1. ng4ever

    ng4ever Flaccid 4Evar

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  2. SticKx911

    SticKx911 [H]ard|Gawd

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    awesome. added a 200gb block backup server! Thanks!
     
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  3. FishHead

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    I take it from the promo code they're trying to ride the GoT hype train here.
     
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  4. Tiberian

    Tiberian Finger Me

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    "Game of Thrones Usenet Special!" <<<--- This is hilarious considering they KNOW they're doing illegal shit but get away with it anyway, geez. I grabbed a 100GB block just to have it around, $5.10 ain't that bad. I have been using UsenetServer's $3/3 day unlimited for years but they just got rid of that plan entirely and I'm still pissed about it so, fuck 'em, NewsDemon gets my business from now on until they piss me off then I'll choose somebody else. :D

    Now I have to wonder if they count header downloads against the block data amount, hrmmm...
     
  5. ziddey

    ziddey [H]ardness Supreme

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    "Free Headers" is listed as an included feature

    Looks like newsdemon is a highwinds reseller.


    Does anyone know if they allow multiple simultaneous IPs? I have a multi-wan setup and am currently using frugalusenet without issues (at $5/mo).
     
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  6. Tiberian

    Tiberian Finger Me

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    Yeah, I didn't read the fine print this time, but I did grab about 9 million headers off one group as a test then waited a while and checked, no hit to the bandwidth count (it was like 2.6GB of headers). Apparently they're not using header compression which is stupid, that makes the download smaller and it speeds it up rather dramatically. I remember when I used to use Astraweb years ago the headers would literally max out my connection at the time (50 Mbps) but nowadays the header shit is long and slower, the 9 million I just got took like 17 minutes and I'm on a 150 Mbps connection. With Astraweb 9 million headers would take like 3 mins tops.

    But it works, so that's what counts I suppose.
     
  7. BlueFireIce

    BlueFireIce [H]ardness Supreme

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    Wile it has been a while, back when I used Newdemon it maxed mine out, kinda odd. Might pick some of this up for block use, thats pretty damn cheap, I can set myself up for a long time at those prices.
     
  8. ///AMG

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    just paid for the unlimited. anyone have any suggestions for indexers? Never used usenet before.
     
  9. westrock2000

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    So I'm assuming this is specifically for "Linux Distro", you guys aren't talking about yoga classes and homemade chili recipes on Usenet anymore are you? No a/s/l. What is the purpose/benefit for this compared to something like a torrent tracker? Do people have direct links for the "Linux Distro" to Mega.nz or something posted? I understand movies for how to set up "Linux Distro" would be very popular, but what about the soundtracks to "Linux Distro"? Can I find audio formats of "Linux Distro" as well? Are people able to credit you specifically for posting a "Linux Distro" or is it anonymous?
     
  10. doox00

    doox00 2[H]4U

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    I just signed up for unlimited monthly, this going to be recurring at this price?
     
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    |-Goku-| [H]ard|Gawd

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    I have some invites to nzb.su if you are interested. Just PM me.
     
  12. blade12

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    How is slickvpn? Anyone check it out?
     
  13. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    Is usenet still a thing? (not asking in a snarky way).

    last I used it, with a "decent" server where "decent" retention, and a nifty program that automates getting all the topic headers and puts it all together it still was fairly hit or miss with gaps in files, but at least they still had the PAR files (although by then it was PAR2, I'm guessing that's still a thing).

    $3/month for unlimited might be a good deal, if they have decent servers. Bragging about server retention that is almost 9 years makes me question it though. Server retention as long as some "lawyer" group doesn't send a DMCA notice?
     
  14. ziddey

    ziddey [H]ardness Supreme

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    Retention doesn't really mean anything if you're after illegal content. Takedowns are automated nowadays, and you definitely need an automated approach (sonarr for tv shows, couchpotato for movies, etc).

    Otherwise, newsdemon is a highwinds reseller and should be decent. If it doesn't meet your needs, frugalusenet's standard price is $5/mo (also highwinds)


    edit: Activated slickvpn but the credentials aren't working
    edit2: looks like the username/password given on activation isn't the same as the one subsequently shown in the account. Latter works.
     
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  15. SticKx911

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    ^that. Takedowns are important to consider. Some servers hold out longer. Some are out first for everything. Beyond that, everything is a lot simpler. Usenet is ideal for those willing to spend the time setting up automation. If you want browsability, usenet will disappoint.
     
  16. WildMonkey

    WildMonkey Gawd

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    I have a UsenetServer subscription, how does this fair against newsdemon? This unlimited plan is sweet at $36/year.
     
  17. ziddey

    ziddey [H]ardness Supreme

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    newsdemon is a highwinds reseller (usenetserver is highwinds). They might employ some sort of qos when under high load, but otherwise should be comparable (notice they both advertise 3258+ days retention)
     
  18. BlueFireIce

    BlueFireIce [H]ardness Supreme

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    As said before, lots of people use a combo of apps, such as SABnzbd and Sonarr, SickRage, CouchPotato and headphones to automate the downloading and sorting of files, if you are looking for the newest Linux distros they get taken down fast so if you don't have something running that automates it to snatch it before that, it might take a while for you to come across one manually to download. If you are after odd or obscure stuff, or old stuff, a good bit can be found that way. Keep in mind without an indexer and apps to automate most groups are 90% spam.

    People do still post on them, as for actual talking, most tend to be on the weird side.

    As for links to stuff, no, its downloaded straight from the usenet server and is why take downs can be fast. As for being better than a torrent tracker, it depends, a private tracker is quite good at posting up new stuff fast, and you don't have to worry about it being taken down and speeds are good in most cases, most usenet however should have some pretty high speeds right from the start. Over all, not much for usenet, I use mine as filler and is why I buy blocks (never expires) as sometimes I will go a while before needing it, however sometimes some odd foreign film or old I can't find on a tracker I find there. Some people don't like or use torrents at all, and in that case I would think usenet with some of the apps above would fill 90% of everything, but if you are already on a good private tracker, there is not much need for it.
     
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  19. Tiberian

    Tiberian Finger Me

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    Save for the fact that nobody has ever been sued or lost their Internet service for getting content from a Usenet provider, can't say the same is true for torrents. ;)

    Yes I realize people use VPNs and other technological trickery and wizardry to get around being monitored in a variety of manners but even so, if you're using torrents (private or public trackers, doesn't matter there) the ISPs will focus a lot more on discovering what you're up to than an SSL connection to a Usenet provider (even if they know the default addresses to look for because most Usenet providers will be news.<name of provider>.com or whatever, not that hard to figure it out).

    Been using Usenet for not only discussions but also those other aspects that many people use it for (I mean really) for decades now, gone through most every name Usenet provider that's ever existed from whatever service my actual ISP provided (oh those were the days when it was all free and part of the price) to of course using third-party providers like Easynews (since they started but then had an issue and they fucked me so fuck 'em), Astraweb (fastest one I've ever used, really), Giganews (the overpriced bastards), TweakNews (freebies now and again) XSUsenet (free but capped and limited), and many many others too that have come and long since gone.

    As I'm a person that has traditionally grabbed headers (and yes, NewsDemon does offer free header downloads as confirmed by their support staff so I'm good) and gone over them locally on my end long before the days of Usenet indexing services that now exist and are somewhat useful depending on their search capabilities and not all of them are that great at all, really. Usenet is like a fallback mechanism, the last bastion of "the old glory days of the Internet" one might say, slowly being overridden by spam and takedowns but there's still gobs and gobs of stuff out there if you're willing to take the time to sift through the headers as no modern indexing service covers it all.

    Always been a Usenet user, always will be... at least till it dries up and explodes from all the spam I suppose. :D
     
  20. BlueFireIce

    BlueFireIce [H]ardness Supreme

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    You should be using a VPN, if not, you are at risk, that is quite simple. And no, ISPs don't "focus" on that, they have automatic filters that detect torrent traffic and send out letters or throttle traffic, almost all of this process is automated. Once you use a VPN, they have zero idea of what is going on. Most people will also still want to use a VPN with Usenet due to possible logging even if you are using a SSL connection. Add into the fact that for Usenet you are setting up an account with real personal information and financial information that if something did happen or court order for logs, they would know who you are and what you downloaded. Granted that has not happened yet, but Usenet is under constant pressure from lawsuits for this and is why takedowns are so bad now. Both are "safe" if you use it right, however Usenet has been on the way down and only takes one case to ruin it for everyone.

    Almost all letters set out by ISPs can just be ignored, they have no legal standing and the people that have been sued have been VERY stupid on public trackers or were uploaders/site hosts. There are so many low hanging fruit, they are not going to spend time to try and find someone on a private tracker no less someone on a private tracker using a VPN etc, which I doubt they would ever be able to, out side of CIA level resources.
     
  21. Tiberian

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    The basic gist I was trying to convey is that nothing is private or secure anymore, and VPNs don't offer any serious level of protection either. Yes the takedown/reporting/etc processes are almost fully automated nowadays with very limited actual human intervention when it does happen but, honestly, if people think they can totally absolutely get away with anything without anything ever being traced back to them, well, no, that's not true and it hasn't been for a long long time now.

    As for whether or not someone gets targeted for action, that's up in the air and the "low hanging fruit" thing is a valid point, but even so people shouldn't just stride into shit thinking they're protected by some magical mystical VPN armor 'cause they're not, not even close, and not even with the "7 proxies" shit either.

    But by all means, keep right on keeping on... ;)
     
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  22. BlueFireIce

    BlueFireIce [H]ardness Supreme

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    VPN absolutely does.

    The "7 proxies" meme is for people who don't understand a proxy vs a VPN. A proxy just hides your IP to the end client, not to the ISP or any third party, VPN traffic is encrypted, not even your ISP can tell what is going on, and if you use a good VPN they don't log etc and most can be bought with bitcoin and no personal information.
     
  23. Tiberian

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    Like I said, you keep right on keeping on under such impressions. ;)
     
  24. BlueFireIce

    BlueFireIce [H]ardness Supreme

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    And I guess you can keep on making vague implications without anything to back it up?

    If there is any truth to your statement, why would you not want to share it for others to know and learn? As a matter of fact if you are not going to share this information on how that is not the case, why bring it up at all?
     
  25. Tiberian

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    I could tell you, but then... well, you figure it out. Such things are never going to public because the public simply wouldn't believe it. Need proof that claim I just made, that people won't believe it? So, the Snowden situation, biggest so-called leak of national security related information in history anywhere in the world, supposedly should have compromised the NSA, the CIA, and other agencies as well, going on what, 4 years now since that happened. Has anything really changed? Nope. Has the actual situation gotten worse and the surveillance increased over even what it was at that time? Yep.

    The reason to bring it up is to hopefully prevent people from getting so god damned lackadaisical in their Internet usage - since that's where the real problems lie now, not on the local machines as it did in years past now that our world is so heavily networked - that they automagically go around assuming that they can just sign up for a VPN service at any given point and then continue doing the things they've always done under some blanket of security which actually doesn't exist.

    I made this point in another thread recently and it gets shuffled off into the ether like so many others, it's not a major concern for me but at least I made the effort to get people to stop and think about shit to some level before assuming they're safe. After that, they're on their own to just do whatever they damned well please while none of it ends up being private or secure.

    And now that I've thoroughly derailed this from the original topic at hand, I'll move along...
     
  26. arnemetis

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    $27.60 a year, yes please! Was a little sketchy checking out without seeing the code take the discount off, but it worked fine on 12 month recurring. I pay $95/yr for UNS, so this is significant savings.
     
  27. Spaceninja

    Spaceninja Gawd

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    What's the difference with block plans and monthly? I've been wanting to use newsgroups but I haven't messed with them in nearly 20 years. At that time my ISP was offering them free with service.
     
  28. Tiberian

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    Monthly plans = after 30 days it's done, period, if you didn't use it that's that.

    Block plan = you're paying for a given amount of bandwidth that never expires (realistically) meaning if you bought the 100GB block like I did yesterday, you could download a few gigs in July, a few gigs in September, next January, etc until the 100GB cap is reached and that's that.
     
  29. BlueFireIce

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    So your whole point on why torrents and VPN are not secure also applies to Usenet, and would actually be easier to abuse in the Usenet situation.

    As I already stated, outside of CIA level resources, no one will know what you are doing. So unless you are some political leader or powerful (read money) individual, the CIA could really care less the movies or weird porn you are into.
     
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    $3 a month for unlimited is cheap enough. Don't think I'll starve paying that much. Now to get all the other stuff configured.
     
  31. Anh N.

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    Anyone know if you get the unlimited monthly, would the recurring payment be $3/month also or would that be just the first month?
     
  32. blade12

    blade12 Limp Gawd

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    What newsreader client do you guys use? Newsdemon recommends Newsbin Pro or Newsleecher.

    Is nzb invite only?
     
  33. arnemetis

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    Sabnzbd, but nzbget is also popular.
     
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  34. SixFootDuo

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    Deal is dead. Coupon doesn't work.
     
  35. thesmokingman

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    $3 a month for unlimited with 50 connections and ssl... nothing beats that. I pay 5$ a month for similar stuff from thundernews. And I thought $5 was as low as it got hehe.
     
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  36. blade12

    blade12 Limp Gawd

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    Both are only usuable through web interface? There is no gui?

    I remember newshosting had nice program with gui back when I used it a while back. Is there any similar program out there?
     
  37. arnemetis

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    I used to use the program altbinz, https://www.altbinz.net but I like the automation of sabnzbd and sonarr too much.
     
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    People think they are anonymous and untraceable, wrong.
    "But I was behind a vpn with 7 proxies" said every child pron felon.
     
  39. Verge

    Verge [H]ardness Supreme

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    been using now for a week, no problems. VPN doesn't work though.
     
  40. uss enterprise

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    Sure the use SSL?
    I couldn't find a mention of it on their site.

    I'm still old school, have been using giganews at 29.99 for years, recently downgraded to 19.99. And I barely even use it anymore.
    Heck, I still use grabit. lol :)

    3 bucks a month, I'm in if it's SSL.

    What a savings.