27" Monitor with 2560 x 1440 native resolution

Which 27" (2560 x 1440) Monitor

  • DoubleSight DS-277W Black 27" (2560 x 1440) $989

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  • DoubleSight DS-275W Black 27" (2560 x 1440) $849

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Finny76

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My main requirement is that i need a 27" monitor that has a native resolution of 2560x1140 or higher. I currently have a HANNSpree HF-289HJB that is 1920x1200.

I will be doing the following:

1) Graphics
2) Proof reading documents (so i have to stare at the screen for long times which causes headaches due of eyestrain, so i need something that's soft on the eyes)
3) Occasionally watching DVDS (Blu Rays)

Its a BIG investment, so i want to make sure i get the right 27" for my needs. :(

  1. DoubleSight DS-277W 27" 6ms HDMI Widescreen Wide Screeen LCD Monitor with IPS Panel Techology 350 cd/m2 1000:1 Built-in Speakers

  2. Dell UltraSharp U2711 27" 6ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with PremierColor 350 cd/m2 80000:1

  3. SAMSUNG S27A850D 27" 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1

  4. HP ZR2740w 27" LED Backlit IPS Monitor
 
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stewartjm

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AFAIK every monitor on your list except for the Samsung uses an LG panel, and they'll all likely be very similar picture quality wise. The Samsung has a "better" AG(anti-glare) coating, but it will likely have poorer backlight uniformity.


I just received a ZR2740W today, to replace a dead LP2475w. I have it next to a LP3065, and so far it's great. I have a 2nd on the way, which I won't be cancelling, it's replacing a dead Samsung 2343BWX. November has not been a good month for my LCD displays... And I might just order a 3rd to replace the LP3065.

pros of the HP:
It's the cheapest of the lot, you can find them in the $650-$690 range.
It has almost no input lag.
It has an LED backlight, which runs cooler and uses less power.

small complaints:
160 less vertical lines than a 30" (not relevant if you're only looking at 27" displays)
The bottom edge of the bezel is thicker than the other 3 sides, which could be an issue with portrait eyefinity setups.
The LG AG coating is slightly more noticeable than the similar coating on the 30".

IMHO, the LG AG issue is blown way out of proportion. The only way I can make it "bad" is by looking at it from 12 to 14 inches, or closer. And that's too close for such a large monitor. I usually use these displays at a distance of between 24 and 36 inches. And at that distance, the difference between the LG and Samsung AG is pretty small.


Though that being said, I would guess that I would prefer a Samsung with good backlight uniformity to the HP. But I don't think I'd prefer it $200 more. The other monitors should probably all drop to the HP's price to be worth considering.
 
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Finny76

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AFAIK every monitor on your list except for the Samsung uses an LG panel, and they'll all likely be very similar picture quality wise. The Samsung has a "better" AG(anti-glare) coating, but it will likely have poorer backlight uniformity.


I just received a ZR2740W today, to replace a dead LP2475w. I have it next to a LP3065, and so far it's great. I have a 2nd on the way, which I won't be cancelling, it's replacing a dead Samsung 2343BWX. November has not been a good month for my LCD displays... And I might just order a 3rd to replace the LP3065.

pros of the HP:
It's the cheapest of the lot, you can find them in the $650-$690 range.
It has almost no input lag.
It has an LED backlight, which runs cooler and uses less power.

small complaints:
160 less vertical lines than a 30" (not relevant if you're only looking at 27" displays)
The bottom edge of the bezel is thicker than the other 3 sides, which could be an issue with portrait eyefinity setups.
The LG AG coating is slightly more noticeable than the similar coating on the 30".

IMHO, the LG AG issue is blown way out of proportion. The only way I can make it "bad" is by looking at it from 12 to 14 inches, or closer. And that's too close for such a large monitor. I usually use these displays at a distance of between 24 and 36 inches. And at that distance, the difference between the LG and Samsung AG is pretty small.


Though that being said, I would guess that I would prefer a Samsung with good backlight uniformity to the HP. But I don't think I'd prefer it $200 more. The other monitors should probably all drop to the HP's price to be worth considering.

Thanks for the input. From the 4 I've listed my first choice is the SAMSUNG S27A850D and second choice is the HP ZR2740w.

The SAMSUNG S27A850D has all the bells and whisltes (USB 3.0 ports etc..) BUT the biggest issue is that it uses a newer PLS technology and almost evereyone has complained of the blacklight bleeding. It cant be that all the reviewers received bad first batches?

The HP r2740w is a good second choice (price is super reasonable) BUT have from the reviews the BIGGEST issue with it is the lack of an OSD menu which limits thre control over the hardware for calibration. Would this be a too big an an issue and can it be cotrolled via the GPU?
 

stewartjm

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My LP3065 has been my main/best display for the past 2-3 years, it has no OSD. All my other displays had/have OSDs, but I never missed the OSD when using the LP3065.

I would guess it was as good or better with default settings than any of my other displays, even when they were adjusted. And the same is likely true of the ZR2740w.

I just played with some test patterns on the ZR2740w, mostly at lagom.nl, and solid patterns from tft.vanity.tk. While leaving all the graphics card settings at default.
Contrast is great, all bands are discernable. Black levels are great, can easily discern all but level 1 and 2, 2 is doable, 1 seems doable, but I could be fooling myself. In the gamma test, red and blue are dead on, green is a tad high(bright). I could adjust it with the CCC, but it's close enough as-is, that I didn't bother saving it.

I didn't see any dead pixels with these tests.

One thing I did notice, when you have the dead pixel test up, you can see an alternating pattern of dark and light areas around the edge of the display. I'm guessing I'm seeing light where the edge lighting LEDs are, and dark in between them. Outside of the test patterns it is not noticable. Turning up the brightness lessens the effect. But I turned it back down, I prefer my screens to not be the default blinding brightness they all seem to be capable of these days. Also, I can sort of see a grid pattern (of light and dark) throughout the screen, but again it's unnoticeable outside of the test pattern. One exception being an all white, or solid bright color, screen where I can see the dark and light areas, but not nearly as well as with the dead pixel test patterns.

With an all black screen, I see the typical IPS white glow, especially in the corners. It mostly moves with me. The lower left corner may have a touch more bleed-through than the rest of the screen, but nothing major.

Even after staring at the calibration and test images, I still think it's great screen. And it's definitely in better shape than my 2-3 year old LP3065(The odds of ordering a 3rd ZR2740w just went up a bit). The LP3065's black levels were pretty bad, compared to how they used to be. Earlier I said the new screen was cooler(more blue), it's actually probably the case that the LP3065 used to be cooler, but as the back-light has aged it's gotten warmer(more red). It has roughly the equivalent of 6-9 years of backlight wear on it, since it's in use 12-16 hours a day 365 days a year. In theory, the LEDs in this new monitor, will age slower.
 
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the biggest con to the zr2740w is the lack of a scaler. You might think that this is ok, but when it comes to modify things in your uefi/bios you'll wish you had one.

Other than that, I'm enjoying the reasonable price, good image quality, and low input lag.
 

Finny76

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the biggest con to the zr2740w is the lack of a scaler. You might think that this is ok, but when it comes to modify things in your uefi/bios you'll wish you had one.

Other than that, I'm enjoying the reasonable price, good image quality, and low input lag.

How is the text display while reading/editing documents?
also does this monitor suffer from excessive back light bleed?
 

Ashok0

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How is the text display while reading/editing documents?
also does this monitor suffer from excessive back light bleed?

Seems like a dupe thread, finny76? Anyhow, if you are concerned about reading text/editing documents I would absolutely not buy the DoubleSight, DELL, or HP. Those have very aggressive AG, text has a very crystalline look. The glossy ACD27" and mild-AG Samsung S27A850D will both exhibit much cleaner looking text and imho are much easier on the eyes.
 

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I agree with Ashock. I returned both Dell and HP 27" monitors because the AG coating made black text on a white background look a bit "dirty." I do lots of editing, so I could see this becoming annoying after awhile. I also returned the Samsung due to bad backlight bleed.

Maybe the Apple is the best choice?
 

stewartjm

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Almost all day, almost every day, I use LG IPS displays, mostly to read and write text. The AG has never been an issue for me, and LG would've changed their AG coating long ago if it was a significant issue for the general population.

You could compare the LG AG to the Trinitron lines, if you kept looking for them, they could drive you mad. But if you don't go looking for it, it's a small defect that is trivial to ignore, and outweighed by other advantages of the display.

Also you can always change your tools to primarily work with light text on a dark background, such configurations are better on ANY display, excepting e-ink.

Compared to the LG AG, I also have a Dell XPS 15 with a glossy display, and it can be annoying to work with depending on room/environment lighting. Though it's worth dealing with the gloss to have a decent 1080p display in an ~$800 laptop. But I can't see myself spending extra for a glossy display, EVER.

All that being said, an LG IPS display with Samsung-like AG, would be ever so slightly nicer, but only slightly. And only if it was the same price.
 

Finny76

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I agree with Ashock. I returned both Dell and HP 27" monitors because the AG coating made black text on a white background look a bit "dirty." I do lots of editing, so I could see this becoming annoying after awhile. I also returned the Samsung due to bad backlight bleed.

Maybe the Apple is the best choice?

Apple is close to a grand or more... so not so sure about that...

How bad is the SAMSUNG bleed issue? Also could it be that it was a bad batch or all of them have the same bleeding issue.:confused:

I want to pull the trigger on the SAMSUNG S27A850D but the backlight bleed is what is stopping me. :mad:
 

NM156

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Not all 27" Samsungs have bleed (mine doesn't); however, it seems to be not uncommon.

Bottom line, if you buy the Samsung it may or may not have unacceptable bleed. If it does, no doubt you can exchange it until you get a good one. How may times? Who knows.

If that is not an issue for you, then I say go ahead - it's a great monitor and text is definitely one of its strong points.
 

Finny76

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Not all 27" Samsungs have bleed (mine doesn't); however, it seems to be not uncommon.

Bottom line, if you buy the Samsung it may or may not have unacceptable bleed. If it does, no doubt you can exchange it until you get a good one. How may times? Who knows.

If that is not an issue for you, then I say go ahead - it's a great monitor and text is definitely one of its strong points.

OK i think im going to take a bite at the SAMSUNG . I have a few questions:

1) which retailer is the best to buy from? (No hassle returns in case i might have to exchange it a few times)

2) What is the best way to test for backlight bleed?

Thanks!
 

NM156

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OK i think im going to take a bite at the SAMSUNG . I have a few questions:

1) which retailer is the best to buy from? (No hassle returns in case i might have to exchange it a few times)

2) What is the best way to test for backlight bleed?

Thanks!

I purchased mine from Buy.com.

45 day "No questions asked" return policy with no re-stocking fee, even if the box has been opened.

To test for BLB, view a black screen in total darkness. Keep in mind that all IPS/PLS monitors exhibit "IPS glow" (unless you are lucky enough to have the extra polarizer), which is something entirely different but can be sometimes mistaken for backlight bleed.
 
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