2560x1440 on 13.3 inch

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So it looks like 'Retina' displays will be coming to 'ultrabooks.' I really must thank apple for getting people to understand the advantage of high resolution. Pretty sad that my IBM T221 9503-DGP with a panel designed in the early 2000s is still the highest resolution LCD model that can be bought today.

Some links with the news:

http://www.guru3d.com/news/2560x1440-display-coming-to-ultrabooks/
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ivy-...e-Retina-Like-2560x1600-Displays-225600.shtml
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/21006/rumortt_ultrabooks_to_sport_2560x1400_hd_panels/index.html

I have been waiting for something like this for a *LONG* time. I can't wait to have a 13 inch notebook capable of doing resolution close to what my 30 inch dell can do. If it were not for apple and its retina display I doubt this would have happened this soon.
 
Sounds totally amazing!!

Incredible real estate! Blow all previous laptops out of the water.
 
The question is: will you be able to read anything with such a high resolution on such a small screen? I find that 1920x1080 on 17.3" laptop already makes letters too small for Office use and Web navigation, let alone that.
 
I don't ever see myself wanting a resolution that big for a laptop screen that small. Maybe a 17 inch. But a 13 inch? No way.
 
Well, the Vaio Z has a 13.1" 1920x1080 display, and lots of complaints there, even with the default 125%PPI. Windows 8 will have to get it's A-Game going with PPI scaleing for this to be effective, IMO.

Though for quite a few people, the higher end Z display is fine (1600x900 option avalible, too), especially for content producers...
 
katabatik said:
The question is: will you be able to read anything with such a high resolution on such a small screen? I find that 1920x1080 on 17.3" laptop already makes letters too small for Office use and Web navigation, let alone that.
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In Windows 8 this is not an issue.

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http://liliputing.com/2011/09/windows-8-paves-the-way-for-10-inch-1080p-tablets.html
 
QXGA 15" IPS laptop panels have been available since 2002 (production stopped in 2005, though). That would correspond to 2048x1149 @ 13.7" in 16:9.

So finally a potential for some progression.
But i'm fearing that this "rumor" is invented by some sick "retina moron" which may have read somewhere, the internally maximum supported display resolution and interpreted this as if a display with this resolution really exists (or will exist)...
So like the QXGA ipad2 which i didn't believe in for a second, i'd believe this when i see it.
 
I find it hard to believe such a high resolution is necessary to be qualified as "retina" display. Not that i've really looked into this.
 
tk-don said:
QXGA 15" IPS laptop panels have been available since 2002 (production stopped in 2005, though). That would correspond to 2048x1149 @ 13.7" in 16:9.

So finally a potential for some progression.
But i'm fearing that this "rumor" is invented by some sick "retina moron" which may have read somewhere, the internally maximum supported display resolution and interpreted this as if a display with this resolution really exists (or will exist)...
So like the QXGA ipad2 which i didn't believe in for a second, i'd believe this when i see it.
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I think its real. Intel said they actually tested high res displays on people and a bunch of different sites are reporting the news. I can't wait. I have done 1920x1200 on a 15.4 inch display no problem. I do 3840x2400 on a 22.2 inch. We are only talking about 220 PPI vs 202 PPI I use already. I might have to up the DPI setting on X from 75 dpi to 100 but probably not.

I myself can't wait. I know they expect most people to use higher DPI settings on the OS and get much nicer looking fonts/images (like the iPhone display) but honestly I would just use it for the desktop real estate.
 
this is excellent news since im still waiting for an upgrade for my 14.1" sxga+ screen. i hope they'll be dimmable all the way down to 3cd/m like the new eizo ev2315w and ev2335w like the old T42 screen i'm on right now!!
 
I had a 1920x1080 Vaio Z and even after adjusting the font size - there were some programs that did not scale well at all - and the font ended up being tiny. I loved the HD for videos and multimedia.. but not very practical for anything productive.

I can't imagine how 2560x1440 on a 13" would look.

It can only be manageable if EVERY program scales well - not just the main start screen.
 
If they're IPS screens, I'll definitely replace my current POS laptop with one of these next year. If they're TN, I'll still probably buy a laptop with one of these haha.
 
tk-don said:
QXGA 15" IPS laptop panels have been available since 2002 (production stopped in 2005, though). That would correspond to 2048x1149 @ 13.7" in 16:9.

So finally a potential for some progression.
But i'm fearing that this "rumor" is invented by some sick "retina moron" which may have read somewhere, the internally maximum supported display resolution and interpreted this as if a display with this resolution really exists (or will exist)...
So like the QXGA ipad2 which i didn't believe in for a second, i'd believe this when i see it.
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I am almost sure this news is real and we should be expecting these things in the next 6 months. Especially when I hear the next apple macbook pro will have an option for 2880x1800.
 
My dream has come true. Im a sucker for high pixel density. Its the only reason why i chose the iphone4 over android at the time.
 
It is great news. My 17" 1080p laptop is already 129.58 ppi which isn't that horrible compared to some 27" desktop 1080p ppi's.
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Just don't forget that ppi is relative to your viewin distance. Handhelds are generally the closest to your eyeballs, making the percieved pixel sizes "larger".. and a 1080p 46" + tv is viewed 8' - 16' away, essentially "shrinking" the pixels so you get a smaller percieved ppi at your living room viewing distances. A laptop is generally viewed closer than a regular desktop screen too, so take it into consideration.
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The LG Quad Full HD should be out eventually as well for desktp screens.
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ixel densities

4.3"....................960 x 540.........256.15 ppi.....0.0992 mm <- phone
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(LG Quad full HD)
26.5"................3840 x 2160.......166.26 ppi ....0.1528 mm <-- 166ppi quoted resolves to 26.5"
27"...................3840 x 2160.......163.18 ppi.....0.1557 mm <-- may not be viewable size if ppi quote is accurate

10.1"................1280 x 800.........146.55 ppi....0.1783 mm <- tablet
17"...................1920 x 1080.......129.58 ppi....0.1960 mm <-- laptop

22.5" (24")........2304 x 1440.......118.13 ppi....0.2150 mm <--- FW900 widescreen CRT max rez 22.5" viewable (80hz) ..
27"...................2560 x 1440.......108.8 ppi....0.2335 mm
30"...................2560 x 1600.......100.6 ppi....0.2524 mm

22"...................1920 x 1080........100.132 ppi..0.2530 mm
20.1"................1680 x 1050..........98.4 ppi ..0.258 mm

23"...................1920 x 1080.........95.78 ppi....0.2652 mm <-- 60hz/120hz
24"...................1920 x 1200.........94.3 ppi....0.2692 mm

24"...................1920 x 1080..........91.8 ppi....0.2767 mm
19"...................1440 x 900...........89.37 ppi....0.2842 mm
27.5"(28")........1920 x 1200..........82.33 ppi....0.3085 mm
27"...................1920 x 1080.........81.59 ppi....0.3113 mm <-- 60hz / 120hz panels

---Too Large for a Desk, greater viewing distances suggested ----
36.4"................4096 x 2160.......127.22 ppi...0.1997 mm <--- Eizo FDH3601 4K2K 16:9 release est. $36,000 usd
42"...................3840 x 2160.......104.9 ppi....0.2421 mm <----LG Quad Full HD IPS, 42" tv version
85 "...................7680 x 4320......103.67 ppi...0.245 mm <--- Sharp 85" 8Kx4K VA
30"...................1920 x 1080.........73.43 ppi...0.345 mm
32"...................1920 x 1080.........68.84 ppi...0.368 mm
37"...................1920 x 1080.........59.54 ppi..0.4266 mm
40"...................1920 x 1080.........55.07 ppi...0.4612 mm
42"...................1920 x 1080.........52.45 ppi...0.4843 mm
 
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