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FTFY.
Ah yes you're right, I meant "me" moving from California. But it does seem odd that a store couldn't make it in that area.FTFY.
They took our MC away years ago up here in the SF Bay Area
It's like a 5 or 6 hour drive now to the one south.
Yeah it is quite a bit harder to justify with a wife and kid. I mean back in the day when I was single and gas hovered below 2 bucks a gallon I could possibly parlay with a trip to Disney or Universal but yeah... not these daysFTFY.
They took our MC away years ago up here in the SF Bay Area
It's like a 5 or 6 hour drive now to the one south.
Rent on commercial space most likely as I doubt they had that big of a profit margin, plus back when they left only places like Newegg were taking off making MC less relevant
You can reuse your ram. Only you can answer if its a good "stopgap upgrade". What's the temporary need? Motherboard die on the 9700K system? Planning on getting a new AMD or Intel system when then new CPU's drop later this year? Then, sure. This is a good deal. If your 9700K is working fine then, depending on your use case, you may not see much of a real world performance upgrade. You get a slightly better ipc and multithreading from the new cpu plus pcie 4 from the new mb. If you are just gaming then expect 5-10% increase in frames at 1080p and about 0% in 4k.
Let me just say thanks for the well articulated response. Honestly there is really no pressing need, I would like some more performance in games at 1440p. I just upgraded the GPU to a 3080 and thought maybe the 9700k was holding it back. I suppose I was hoping it be a worthwhile upgrade without having to go all out. I think now that I'll hold till the 13600k and just bite the bullet on ddr5.
Isn't the 13 series backwards compatible with the 12 series chipsets? I thought I read that somewhere, if that's the case there's already Z690 and below boards that will support DDR4 and the 13 series regardless if the Z790 and it's lower chipsets include the option.
I believe some z790's will support ddr4. Waiting to see what hits the shelves.
But isn't that only if the CPU itself supports DDR4?
That is definitely not correct at least on the board end, MSI has already pushed out BIOS updates for their DDR4 and DDR5 boards getting them ready for Raptor Lake (13th gen) I found out by checking my board for a new bios then reading what the updated BIOS did.
13th gen cpu supports DDR4 and 5, some Z690 mb's are getting bios support to for the13th gen cpu and 700 series mb's have been announced that support ddr4. So, take your pick. It's going to be interesting.
Cost of living in the Bay Area is too expensive for minimum wage employees to work at a mc and live. I guess they could commute but why, they can find the same pay closer to home.
Ahh didn't think about the employees. But certainly you have service based low paying jobs in the Bay Area?
Seems like single thread performance gets a pretty decent upgrade going from the 9700k to the 11700k:
I think it would still be possible in east bay where things aren't ludicris in terms of cost. Of course then you have to worry about other stuff...
You do, but 'low' these days is like $22/hr for fast food jobs, which pushes everything else up and then there's a point where the numbers just don't work because customers won't absorb all the increases and move to online, which is how amazon became so big with their tax advantage over retail stores for better part of a decade. If they had to collect taxes from day one, places like compusa would probably still be around.
Yeah, it's back to $200 on my side. Must have been something weird with their system
I don't believe MC employees are paid minimal wages. Here in Maryland stores they pay at least $15. Still not enough in the bay area for sure.