Axehandler
Gawd
- Joined
- Dec 19, 2007
- Messages
- 635
Random image I found on the internet saying this
posted before I saw the other thread
posted before I saw the other thread
Last edited:
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I'm expecting around 2 GHz from NVIDIA. The big compute chip in the Titan V was 1.5.2.5ghz on 12nm?
I'm expecting around 2 GHz from NVIDIA. The big compute chip in the Titan V was 1.5.
I haven’t found anything yet that would make me need to upgrade from a single 1080ti at 3440x1440. But, new hardware gets me excited anyway! I expect your percentage gain estimates are about right.Not sure how well they will sell after the big release day, reason being is that most current generation cards are playing today games rather well. This will be a very interesting release when it occurs and what will happen. Due to the time length between Pascal and upcoming generation I would hope to see something close to what Pascal had over Maxwell. 1070 ~ Titan X (Maxwell), 1080 ~ 20%+ over 980Ti. Then the question becomes how much real game play will this make a difference for? For 4K gaming I would think that would be a huge win, everything below 4K probably not that much.
Right, which is the result of a limit on the amount of power NVIDIA allows to go through the chip. Smaller node and different power profile will change that. The denser chip may prove problematic when it comes to cooling, so either way I believe 2.5 GHz is way out there being too optimistic.All the Pascal+ gen chips can hit 2GHz, including the Titan V, on air. I have never seen an Nvidia card hit 2.5 on air. That's what I am referring to.
Does it [1170] retail for $499?
It's just more FUD being spread. Ever since Kepler people spread doom & gloom about how NVIDIA is going to increase prices to an unreasonable level.That pricing doesn't make a lot of sense as you can buy a 1070 TI right now for just $500. What's the incentive to buy the new card at those price points?
Well the 1080 was released with that ridiculously fucking priced Founders Edition. And then the Titan went up to $1,300. And now the latest Titan is $3,000. Nvidia can certainly do some outrageous shit when it comes to prices.It's just more FUD being spread. Ever since Kepler people spread doom & gloom about how NVIDIA is going to increase prices to an unreasonable level.
1180 = $800 (or maybe the + will be since that's a thing now) - dropping to $700 after just a couple months. Will be 20-30% faster than 1080TI, so no way they'll sell it at the same MSRP as the 1080TI, which is still selling fairly well.
1170 = $650 - dropping to $550 after just a couple months. Will be on par with 1080TI, but will have Ray Tracing, lower power use, and be faster and more efficient at crypto mining.
That's my guess. Nvidia said pricing would go up this generation, and the market has already let it be known that it will support higher priced premium cards.
It's just more FUD being spread. Ever since Kepler people spread doom & gloom about how NVIDIA is going to increase prices to an unreasonable level.
lol, with Kyle setting straight GPP program, he may have many friends and informats in high places eagerly willing to share some future knowledge with him. Maybe a card or two as well . Virtually alone saved a number of AIBs from having to buy knee pads to suck up to Nvidia. Now it would be great seeing a review before NDA on secret card from someone that would never be named or implicated . Better yet, Nvidia just gives [H]ardOCP a card without the stupid current NDA with a handshake and call it a day, a handshake agreement would mean much more to me on Nvidia trustworthiness and respect [H]ardOCP deserves.Kyle knows something.
#Netherlands
Right, which is the result of a limit on the amount of power NVIDIA allows to go through the chip. Smaller node and different power profile will change that. The denser chip may prove problematic when it comes to cooling, so either way I believe 2.5 GHz is way out there being too optimistic.
"NVIDIA allows."Even the fastest, binned 1080 Tis like the HOF could only hit 2.2GHz with triple 8 pins on air or water. You had to put them on LN2 to go any faster. Power delivery is not the limiting factor with Pascal.
"NVIDIA allows."
Rumor Has It"
The email mentions at least four Turing models, and claims the following release dates:
The release of this new line of graphics cards was delayed due to a glut in Series 10 cards, according to the email. Nvidia supposedly planned to first lower supplies of older cards before announcing and releasing its new product line.
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180 (August 30th)
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180+ (September 30th)
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1170 (September 30th)
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1160 (October 30th)
So the 1180, how much faster will it be than the 1080 Ti? Is the 1170 worth waiting for, will it compete with the 1080 Ti in speed but how much will it sell for?
True. But I'm really considering just getting a GTX 1080 now rather than waiting for the 1170/1180. A lot of people are selling their 1080's now because they are gonna upgrade. Not sure if this is a good idea or not!
I agree, there are a couple areas AMD needs to improve in its graphics cards before it can seriously compete with nvidia. Like making better freesync, or a card to compete with the 1080ti (and soon the Series 11)Only rumor I believe is that price is going up. I am not expecting an epic performance jump Pascal had with full node shrink. its going to 12nm not 7nm. I think true performance jump we will see is at 7nm. Looks like Nvidia will just price these higher until they run out of pascal stock which might be plenty to go around and price these higher to keep selling pascal. Rumor has it they actually won't be replacing pascal. I think Nvidia will just charge more and leave the older gen as cheaper parts to make more money. Thanks to no competition I guess. I don't think AMD will be competing until 2020 in the GPU arena.
So the 1180, how much faster will it be than the 1080 Ti? Is the 1170 worth waiting for, will it compete with the 1080 Ti in speed but how much will it sell for?
Wait till next month and I think 1080s will be even cheaper.
From what i know.
the 2080 will be 6% faster than the 1080ti at 170watts
the 2080ti will be around 30-40% faster than the 1080ti at 250watts, but also around $1200
any sort of mining though titan V is still faster.
But don't take my word for, lets wait for the real numbers. Though this is a good source.
I couldn't help it. I pulled the trigger on an EVGA 1080 Hybrid for $380 from ebay. I think it will be a really good upgrade in performance for my 1440p monitor.
I really like the fact that it has an AIO built in water cooling solution so it will cool my card much better than air based cards with very little fuss.
If the 1180/1170 is as expensive as expected and gets sold out early, I might be out of luck.
I'm also guessing the 1170 is only a slight step up from 1080 or maybe just matches the 1080 Ti but will probably cost $600+ if it does manage to match the 1080 Ti.
I can't even guess what the 1180 will cost. I'm going to guess $750 if it blows away the 1080 Ti, ie beats it by 30% or more. Maybe it is $699 if it only beats it by 20% but that would definitely be out of my price range. Again this is all guess work on my part.
That seems reasonable given it's not a full node shrink. Likely more cuda cores giving performance bump as I don't think they will get crazy core speed going to 12nm.
I think the source of that information is between your two rear pockets...From what i know.
the 2080 will be 6% faster than the 1080ti at 170watts
the 2080ti will be around 30-40% faster than the 1080ti at 250watts, but also around $1200
any sort of mining though titan V is still faster.
But don't take my word for, lets wait for the real numbers. Though this is a good source.
I think the source of that information is between your two rear pockets...
How about Nvidia supporting FreeSync (VESA Adaptive Sync)? That would be a big surprise and take away a good reason to go AMD. Nvidia probably can make more money selling more cards, supporting an open standard then they make on GSync. That is if they can make enough cards while the next big mining boom wave happens.I agree, there are a couple areas AMD needs to improve in its graphics cards before it can seriously compete with nvidia. Like making better freesync, or a card to compete with the 1080ti (and soon the Series 11)