Men Wearing Jetpacks Fly Next To Jumbo Jet

hmm hope they don't have cameras on or people will be taking shots at them thinking they are drones.

I know this was likely staged and controlled but there is so much that can go wrong at that proximity, my balls aren't big enough to do this lol.
 
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
 
psimitry said:
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
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A part of me just died after reading all of this.. :D
 
psimitry said:
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
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This is the Jetman duo. They've done these flights and are trained professionals and this was done in conjunction with the Emirates aircraft. For many reasons out of their control, this is a "bad idea", but this was a planned formation shoot.

Relax.
 
psimitry said:
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
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Not to mention being sucked into the engines of the jet.... (ICD code V97.33XD :p )

They probably aren't as close as they look in this footage, as areal footage is often deceptive in that regard (thinks can look much closer than they are, especially when working with all three dimensions, rather than just the two we are used to on the ground)

This is commonly used in formation flying at air shows, where plans look like they are right on top of each other, but they actually have more separation in altitude which isn't easy to spot from the ground.

That being said, for airliners you usually have 1000 feet vertical and 3 miles lateral separation at low speeds near airports.

For high speed travel above 10,000 feet, this typically grows to 5 miles. So even with optical illusions, this is a lot closer than typical FAA operation.

This is still a pretty risky stunt. Makes Evel Kneivel look tame. The amount of human life (in air and on ground) and money (Jets are not cheap, nor is flying into city buildings) put at risk seems really not worth it to me...
 
in the behind the scenes video (link in youtube comments), there was a 2 or 3 second clip showing the briefing group and with them was a specialist talking about the air flow and safe distances.

I think they had everything covered. its never guaranteed, but seems they were smart about it.
 
It seems plane is flying at "low" speed as the flaps are deployed.
 
I'm puzzled as to why this hasn't made it into action movies.

It only looks natural for a bond or MI film.
 
They must wear some pretty hevy duty masks or goggle your face would fall off due the turbulence.
 
psimitry said:
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
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Looked to me like the jetpacks never were near the plane except when they pulled in close to the edge of the wings and even then the angle makes it likely they just looked close and weren't.

They have another video about the making of this video, I haven't watched it yet but I think they worked out the safety issues to a reasonable level.
 
The Avalon said:
This is the Jetman duo. They've done these flights and are trained professionals and this was done in conjunction with the Emirates aircraft.
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I didn't know there was an official training program to turn people into "professional" complete idiots. I thought people like that were just naturally gifted with an excess of stupidity. :D

Seriously, we humans write off a lot to made up titles. There's nothing out there that trains a person to be a professional at doing something like that. The only thing that gives them that title is the fact that nothing fatal has gone wrong while they were doing stupid stuff...yet. It's just like how Paul Newman was in a car with his "trained professional" friend that drove them both into a tree so they died in a fire or how there was a "trained professional" police officer talking to a classroom full of kids that shot himself in the foot. For these two, it's only a matter of dumb luck keeping them alive and not killing a whole buncha innocent people on the ground from falling debris.
 
Meh. Cobra has been doing this shit for decades.

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Stoly said:
It seems plane is flying at "low" speed as the flaps are deployed.
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That and how close the city skyline is.....


Also, who is taking the picture?....All the money went into those jet packs...must be a drone! :D

Stupid drones flying close to aircraft.
 
Heh after actuallly watching the video, they were safe distance from the engines and most likely in contact w/ the pilots.
 
psimitry said:
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
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Buzzkill... (Whose mom are you?)
 
about 10 minutes burn available on the jetpack. these versions had 4 jets for each wing suit.
the jetpack guys had 2 way radio with 4 planes, including the emirates pilot.

short interesting video on the behind the scenes.
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
I didn't know there was an official training program to turn people into "professional" complete idiots. I thought people like that were just naturally gifted with an excess of stupidity. :D

Seriously, we humans write off a lot to made up titles. There's nothing out there that trains a person to be a professional at doing something like that. The only thing that gives them that title is the fact that nothing fatal has gone wrong while they were doing stupid stuff...yet. It's just like how Paul Newman was in a car with his "trained professional" friend that drove them both into a tree so they died in a fire or how there was a "trained professional" police officer talking to a classroom full of kids that shot himself in the foot. For these two, it's only a matter of dumb luck keeping them alive and not killing a whole buncha innocent people on the ground from falling debris.
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what happened to paul walker (not newman i assume, was not rehearsed, discussed in a controlled environment. that was a stupid accident. the police officer, same thing, not prepared with the safety on.

these two had parachutes on, trained, rehearsed everything with the rest of the group. you cant compare this to the other incidents.
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
I didn't know there was an official training program to turn people into "professional" complete idiots. I thought people like that were just naturally gifted with an excess of stupidity. :D

Seriously, we humans write off a lot to made up titles. There's nothing out there that trains a person to be a professional at doing something like that. The only thing that gives them that title is the fact that nothing fatal has gone wrong while they were doing stupid stuff...yet. It's just like how Paul Newman was in a car with his "trained professional" friend that drove them both into a tree so they died in a fire or how there was a "trained professional" police officer talking to a classroom full of kids that shot himself in the foot. For these two, it's only a matter of dumb luck keeping them alive and not killing a whole buncha innocent people on the ground from falling debris.
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Please fuck off with your trolling, it's getting old.
Also, that was Paul Walker.
 
aliaskary77 said:
what happened to paul walker (not newman i assume, was not rehearsed, discussed in a controlled environment. that was a stupid accident. the police officer, same thing, not prepared with the safety on.

these two had parachutes on, trained, rehearsed everything with the rest of the group. you cant compare this to the other incidents.
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Paul whatever...it's the guy from those kids' car movies either way. Besides that, there are lots of staged and rehearsed events that go horribad wrong like crashes at air shows and that kinda junk.
 
The Avalon said:
Please fuck off with your trolling, it's getting old.
Also, that was Paul Walker.
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Classic case of, "I don't agree with this person, but can't think of a coherent argument against the comments so I'm going to accuse them of trolling since that's one of the few ways I have to insult someone without risking an infraction."
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
I didn't know there was an official training program to turn people into "professional" complete idiots. I thought people like that were just naturally gifted with an excess of stupidity. :D

Seriously, we humans write off a lot to made up titles. There's nothing out there that trains a person to be a professional at doing something like that. The only thing that gives them that title is the fact that nothing fatal has gone wrong while they were doing stupid stuff...yet. It's just like how Paul Newman was in a car with his "trained professional" friend that drove them both into a tree so they died in a fire or how there was a "trained professional" police officer talking to a classroom full of kids that shot himself in the foot. For these two, it's only a matter of dumb luck keeping them alive and not killing a whole buncha innocent people on the ground from falling debris.
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Time spent doing it and doing it successfully makes them an expert. :p

Even with"expert" things can still go wrong, but that's life, we can't control all the variables.

I'd venture to say that your common airshow is a riskier proposition than this "stunt".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_show_accidents_and_incidents
 
psimitry said:
Although it was a cool video, there's a bunch of reasons that this was a BAD idea. The jet's turbulence could have destabilized those jetpacks, and they could have died. They could have hit an airpocket, destabilized and hit a vital part of the jet, causing it to crash and the jetpack pilots (and whomever is on the jet) could have died. Not to mention that they were flying over a city. So the jetpack pilots could have died, the plane personnel could have died, and whomever would be under the jet or in the path of wreckage could have died.
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People like you are why no one can get the sign off to do wild crazy shit in the US anymore. You have to account for every possibility, no matter how remote, and be insured for all of it or you can't do anything fun or cool. "Someone might get hurt!" Yeah, that's exactly the point. :cool:

Cross the Grand Canyon on a tightrope with no safety harness? Nope! Unless you get that nice Native American tribe that has control of part of the canyon to allow it, that is.

People in the US used to do (or attempt) stuff like that constantly, you know, back when we were awesome.
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
I didn't know there was an official training program to turn people into "professional" complete idiots. I thought people like that were just naturally gifted with an excess of stupidity. :D

Seriously, we humans write off a lot to made up titles. There's nothing out there that trains a person to be a professional at doing something like that. The only thing that gives them that title is the fact that nothing fatal has gone wrong while they were doing stupid stuff...yet. It's just like how Paul Newman was in a car with his "trained professional" friend that drove them both into a tree so they died in a fire or how there was a "trained professional" police officer talking to a classroom full of kids that shot himself in the foot. For these two, it's only a matter of dumb luck keeping them alive and not killing a whole buncha innocent people on the ground from falling debris.
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So.......you're telling me you're not a professional troll? You sure had me fooled.
 
Silentbob343 said:
Time spent doing it and doing it successfully makes them an expert. :p
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Being an expert or professional at something usually means lots of experience and training, yup. However, in this case, they've just not made a mistake that's killed them yet.

Time2Kill said:
So.......you're telling me you're not a professional troll? You sure had me fooled.
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Nope, I'm not a professional troll, just a gifted amateur. :D But SHHHH! Don't tell The Avalon or he's liable to go even deeper into a profanity-laced rampage. ^^
 
That is pretty damned cool, and the source of my new wallpaper:

 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
Being an expert or professional at something usually means lots of experience and training, yup.
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You mean like being a former fighter pilot, A380/B747 Captain, and have hundreds of flights in a jetpack you designed from the ground up over 20 years? How about being one of the most experienced skydivers and wingsuit flyers in the world who was trained by the inventor of the jetpack?

How about being one of the leading A380 Captains in the world and a training Captain for Emirates?

CreepyUncleGoogle said:
However, in this case, they've just not made a mistake that's killed them yet.
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In this case, I think you have just made an uneducated assumption that made you look like an asshat. Take your lumps and do research next time!

CreepyUncleGoogle said:
Nope, I'm not a professional troll, just a gifted amateur. :D But SHHHH!
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See comment above...I agree you are not a troll.
 
The only difference between a good decision and a bad decision is the results, but the results aren't known and only speculated until the decision is made. Everything is a good decision to the person making it until things go wrong, then we on the outside say it was a bad decision. It really is a fun conversation when you try to figure out how choices can be properly sorted into good or bad and what method should be used. Not everything can be risk vs. reward, when some are 'just to see if I can' as that produces no tangible reward any outsider can see. Done rambling, lunchbreak over :/
 
Cr4ckm0nk3y said:
You mean like being a former fighter pilot, A380/B747 Captain, and have hundreds of flights in a jetpack you designed from the ground up over 20 years? How about being one of the most experienced skydivers and wingsuit flyers in the world who was trained by the inventor of the jetpack?

How about being one of the leading A380 Captains in the world and a training Captain for Emirates?

In this case, I think you have just made an uneducated assumption that made you look like an asshat. Take your lumps and do research next time!
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Tut, tut, so bitter and angry. :p So someone flew around a little, jumped out of perfectly good, working planes, and pretended to be a flying squirrel, but hasn't died yet. That makes that person impulsive, risk-accepting, and borderline insane (selfish too if they have a family and decide to do risky things like that). That's not professionalism, just someone missing the risk control portions of their pre-frontal cortex (which is generally under developed in most men to being with, but in this case, probably even less so).
 
Point of order: we're sitting or standing or whatever at our computers/smartphones/tablets posting about those guys and they're flying (or did fly) next to an airliner having the time of their lives.

With respect to being risky, any of us could die at any time - would your friends and family think more of you (whoever you are) if you died sitting/standing at your computer/smartphone/etc doing not much of anything at all, or if you died while flying (or after flying) next to an airliner having the time of your life and dying doing what you loved doing?

I mean really. ;)
 
They were safe about it. Very careful where they were positioned.

It's no different than if military jets, small aircraft, or anything else flew in formation with a passenger jet. You stay out of the jetwash and the disturbed air from certain surfaces and tips.

Aerobatics and formation flying 101.
 
Anything can happen to anyone at any time - you can be minding your own business just sitting on a park bench and a tree fall on your head. This was a professionally planned set of maneuvers carried out by professionals under as controlled conditions as they could get. COULD someone have gotten hurt? Of course. But to insinuate that this was idiotic because of the chance of injury or death is just stupid. You take a chance just getting out of bed every day. You're probably one of those parents who instantly uses a half bottle of sanitizer the moment a speck of dirt gets on your kid's hands because OMG GERMS!
 
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