Facebook Security Chief: It's Time To Kill Flash

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It looks as though Facebook is looking to put an end to Flash.

"It is time for Adobe to announce the end-of-life date for Flash and to ask the browsers to set killbits on the same day," he said in one tweet. He followed up in another tweet, adding: "Even if 18 months from now, one set date is the only way to disentangle the dependencies and upgrade the whole ecosystem at once."
 
We're still looking at some number of years before this is going to happen. Not that it's a bad idea but there's still a lot Flash code and video out there. It'll happen eventually, just not in 8 months.
 
Until porn sites begin the transition, it's not going away any time soon.
 
When both Flash and Java are kicked into the grave I will be heartily celebrating their demise.
 
When using youtube in Firefox it defaults to HTML5 now and has for quite some time.
 
Flash actually gave Steve Jobs pancreatic cancer. Good luck Zuckerberg. You're going to need it.
 
And so, the rest of the Internet catches up to where Apple was 5 years ago.



They did it years ago. How do you think they serve iPhone users?


Just because Apple failed to incorporate Flash doesn't make them ahead of the rest of the internet - infact, for quite some time Apple was behind because they didn't support Flash. All sites that work in HTML5 on Apple will work fine on any other OS with a browser that supports HTML5 (ie: most). The issue is and will remain, the legacy sites that have not moved away from Flash (the same sites that don't work on Apple at all).
 
Just because Apple failed to incorporate Flash doesn't make them ahead of the rest of the internet - infact, for quite some time Apple was behind because they didn't support Flash. All sites that work in HTML5 on Apple will work fine on any other OS with a browser that supports HTML5 (ie: most). The issue is and will remain, the legacy sites that have not moved away from Flash (the same sites that don't work on Apple at all).

Also, any webdesigner worth their weight moved away from Flash years ago. It's only really been used by people who invested in learning it and don't want to learn the modern ways (or shouldn't be web designers).
 
Well then how the hell am i supposed to watch Star Wars Gangsta Rap until my eyes bleed and prank my buddies with Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboards???
 
Flash wont die that easily, simply because the html standards board is a freaking joke. How long did it take them to roll out hltml 5, how long did it take them to implement any change? The reality is as long as the idiots who run that organization don't build people the tools they want and do it quickly a product like flash will always have a place in the market. If the developers want to do something with flash they ask adobe, and adobe implements it, then rolls it out. If you want something to be added to html you beg, then they form 83 committees, wait 2 years, say a chant and announce it, then another 4 years later it finally gets put into internet explorer.

Oh and while you are all sitting their complaining why don't you go on a crusade to get rid of apps on phones, because 95% of them serve no purpose any different than flash does. They are just a proprietary special interface to the web. Apple wasn't ahead of anyone they were simply making sure that their sheeple couldn't get access to the very same flash games those idiots were paying $5 a pop for. No way was apple going to give up that cash cow, and once apple had an app lead they wanted people locked into their ecosystem. Flash was a threat to that by allowing any developer to develop a single mobile experience and deliver it to all mobile platforms. I have always been surprised apple didn't see an antitrust investigation for blocking flash.
 
Also in case I wasn't clear, if adobe flash is taken out all that will happen is many of the services that use it will either find another solution or switch to making apps for every different stupid platform. Or maybe they wont they will just leave out your preferred platform.

Also we can all have a good laugh about the irony of facebook claiming flash is a problem, once again just like apple they have an agenda here they want people making games and shit in their own api. I had to laugh the first time I heard there are facebook apps, WTF needs that is a better question than anything. How about we rid the web of that shit and tell grandma to learn the web consists of more than facebook and AOL.
 
Flash will stay alive as long as the large porn sites use it. When they switch to HTML5, Flash dies.
 
I still need to use Flash with YouTube as I'm still on Windows 7...with W7 if you use HTML5 then you're capped at 720p plus I don't get 5.1 audio...60 fps video also seems limited with W7 and HTML5
 
I still need to use Flash with YouTube as I'm still on Windows 7...with W7 if you use HTML5 then you're capped at 720p plus I don't get 5.1 audio...60 fps video also seems limited with W7 and HTML5

Using Firefox? Update it and preferably clean install. HTML5 has nothing to do with your browser. Its just old Firefox did not support Media Source Extensions and hence the limitations. It may still be disabled in about:config settings page and you have to turn it on manually.

If you have problems try Chrome and you should find everything HTML5 related working fine in that browser.
 
Using Firefox? Update it and preferably clean install. HTML5 has nothing to do with your browser. Its just old Firefox did not support Media Source Extensions and hence the limitations. It may still be disabled in about:config settings page and you have to turn it on manually.

If you have problems try Chrome and you should find everything HTML5 related working fine in that browser.

I meant: ...nothing to do with your OPERATING SYSTEM.

Damn the lack of edit button.
 
I still need to use Flash with YouTube as I'm still on Windows 7...with W7 if you use HTML5 then you're capped at 720p plus I don't get 5.1 audio...60 fps video also seems limited with W7 and HTML5

As far as Firefox goes, they tried to implement Media Source Extensions (MSE) and the media.mediasource.youtubeonly setting (these are the two things you need) in FF36 but ran into trouble and disabled it until they could get it working. They were hoping to get it into FF39 or FF40, and it does not seem to be in the current FF39.

I hear that you can try it out in beta Firefox.
 
Using Firefox? Update it and preferably clean install. HTML5 has nothing to do with your browser. Its just old Firefox did not support Media Source Extensions and hence the limitations. It may still be disabled in about:config settings page and you have to turn it on manually.

If you have problems try Chrome and you should find everything HTML5 related working fine in that browser.

I'm actually using IE11...I heard you need to use Windows 8 or 10 with IE11 (or the new Edge browser) to get HTML5 working the way it should...with Windows 7 and IE11 you are forced to used Flash to get full functionality...even to fully enable IE11 64-bit mode you need anything above Windows 7
 
I'm actually using IE11...I heard you need to use Windows 8 or 10 with IE11 (or the new Edge browser) to get HTML5 working the way it should...with Windows 7 and IE11 you are forced to used Flash to get full functionality...even to fully enable IE11 64-bit mode you need anything above Windows 7


Oh! Well, that has less to do with operating system and more with Microsoft being assholes. Didnt think anyone here would use IE by the way... :p

As far as Firefox goes, they tried to implement Media Source Extensions (MSE) and the media.mediasource.youtubeonly setting (these are the two things you need) in FF36 but ran into trouble and disabled it until they could get it working. They were hoping to get it into FF39 or FF40, and it does not seem to be in the current FF39.

I hear that you can try it out in beta Firefox.

I use ordinary Firefox 39 with MSE enabled and Youtube works perfectly. In earlier versions it had glitches that made videos freeze and some not even start at all but now its working like a charm. Just open about:config in your browser and enable

media.mediasource.enabled
media.mediasource.mp4.enabled

Maybe there is a reason they still keep it disabled but Youtube does work just fine.
 
Just because Apple failed to incorporate Flash doesn't make them ahead of the rest of the internet

Apple did not "fail" to incorporate Flash, they deliberately decided to ditch Flash. It was a prescient move at the time; now, it looks like flat out fortune telling.

Yes, Apple was ahead of the rest of the tech sector. Still is, in fact.
 
Two zero day flash vulnerabilities discovered in a week that will escape the browser sandbox.. I hope those are paid porn sites. :D
 
I stopped at the phrase "Facebook's new chief security officer". Failbook is the biggest security problem on the internet. This is like ISIS criticizing Hezbollah about being terrorists.
 
Flash is still used in a lot of educational sites, by Pearson and blackboard.. And then there's Java...
 
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