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Hmmm, what's a good way to get attention? I know, I'll compare Apple to Hitler! That should do the trick. :rolleyes:

Jia Yueting, the billionaire founder and CEO of Chinese internet video site Leshi TV (LeTV), has compared Apple to the Nazis in a poster teasing the launch of LeTV's new smartphone. The image was posted to Yueting's verified Weibo page (with more than 5 million followers) and shows a cartoon Adolf Hitler wearing a red armband with the Apple logo in place of the Nazi swastika.
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Proof positive that more than just forum residents compare things they don't like to Nazis instead of thinking about how to present their own perspective effectively. :D
 
Says the guy whose company probably stole all their ideas from Apple and other companies. I swear when was the last time the Chinese came up with something on their own without stealing it??
 
AthlonXP said:
Says the guy whose company probably stole all their ideas from Apple and other companies. I swear when was the last time the Chinese came up with something on their own without stealing it??
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so true!!
 
Says the guy whose company probably stole all their ideas from Xerox and other companies. I swear when was the last time Apple came up with something on their own without stealing it??
 
Armenius said:
Says the guy whose company probably stole all their ideas from Xerox and other companies. I swear when was the last time Apple came up with something on their own without stealing it??
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Touche! :D
 
I'm always confounded when comparisons are made between inhuman megalomaniacal military dictators and just about anything else that in no way shape of form holds anywhere close to the same kind of power and coercive force.
 
Armenius said:
Says the guy whose company probably stole all their ideas from Xerox and other companies. I swear when was the last time Apple came up with something on their own without stealing it??
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Apple isn't about inventing the wheel but refining it. They do seem to do a great job of creating polished products before others. But in doing so they often strip away features and complexity that many techies think "locks out" and "dumb downs" thing.

Whatever the case, it works VERY well for them.
 
heatlesssun said:
Apple isn't about inventing the wheel but refining it. They do seem to do a great job of creating polished products before others. But in doing so they often strip away features and complexity that many techies think "locks out" and "dumb downs" thing.

Whatever the case, it works VERY well for them.
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That's actually how technology progresses. I'm not one to bash Apple as a company, but I am one to bash people who are blind fans of them, especially because of the dumbing down as you point out. But my biggest gripe is that whenever Apple releases something people forget about the pioneer that made the Apple product possible. The iPod was the greatest portable music player ever, but what about the Diamond Rio? Now news media is gushing all over the Apple Watch, but what about the LG GD910?
 
heatlesssun said:
Apple isn't about inventing the wheel but refining it. They do seem to do a great job of creating polished products before others. But in doing so they often strip away features and complexity that many techies think "locks out" and "dumb downs" thing.

Whatever the case, it works VERY well for them.
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Blackberry was a great smart phone. People called it the "Crackberry". When Apple released it's iPhone, the Blackberry became nearly obsolete overnight, at least for consumers. Eventually, Apple got into the enterprise segment, and Blackberry is on it's deathbed now.

Dumb down and locks out? Sure. But, it works and it does what it is supposed to very well. Stable, secure, fast. That's what Apple is good at. Lock down the hardware and the OS so much that it's hard to get something in there that takes the whole system down (unlike Windows, which is much more open to other hardware/software... getting very stable, but not as good as iOS).

Apple is Hitler? Maybe some of the business practices and/or labor practices are questionable, but there are a lot of US companies that do the same or worse.

Hitler was a pretty evil guy. I don't think I'd compare too many to that guy. Not too many people are that evil and that destructive... Maybe Obama.... ;)
 
Armenius said:
But my biggest gripe is that whenever Apple releases something people forget about the pioneer that made the Apple product possible. The iPod was the greatest portable music player ever, but what about the Diamond Rio? Now news media is gushing all over the Apple Watch, but what about the LG GD910?
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I still have my Diamond Rio. Haven't used it in over 15 years though. I agree with your point. It is part of the Apple magic and marketing machine. They get lots of credit for heavy lifting they didn't do but I can't blame them because who doesn't want to get more credit than they deserve?
 
heatlesssun said:
I'm always confounded when comparisons are made between inhuman megalomaniacal military dictators and just about anything else that in no way shape of form holds anywhere close to the same kind of power and coercive force.
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For people who want to repeat history's mistakes so badly, history is an annoying nuissance.

As for the relevance to the poster, they just want to make a ton of Apple iPhone knock off and ship them here. Apple's trademark and patents prevent this. So they are irritated and want to redefine the ethical business norm in this situation to their liking.
 
One similarity and you'd have to be in their 16-20 hour workday shoes to understand are the motivational signs over the foxcon campus we have seen in the past. Often in "steel" arch banners "work will make you happy" similar to Auschwitz camps:
a. barbwire
b. dorms
c. grueling hours
d. mantras of working make you happy signs
e. strict rules (although strict is dramatically different. )

however not similar:
a. everything else (no death camps)

What Apple factories are similar to are the Lowell textile factories in early america (women sent from their homes to education dorm work facilities to work 16 hour days for minimal pay, with curfews etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell_Mill_Girls
 
my point is china in 2015 is how the west was from 1700-1940s with early stages of industrial revolution. if you want to live a steam punk life go live in china and work 16 hours a day in a heavy polluted town in a small cramped house with a limited education and low quality of life. China is still in their industrial revolution, it may be on the cusp of changing for the better (internet, technology, education and less brutality)
 
jroe52 said:
my point is china in 2015 is how the west was from 1700-1940s with early stages of industrial revolution. if you want to live a steam punk life go live in china and work 16 hours a day in a heavy polluted town in a small cramped house with a limited education and low quality of life. China is still in their industrial revolution, it may be on the cusp of changing for the better (internet, technology, education and less brutality)
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They are undercutting the competition. Nothing else. The worker's situations could be improved but acquiring ever larger shares of exports to foreign markets is A#1 priority.
 
China... You can do as much having peasants for your citizens. He should have compared Apple to Mao who murdered 65 million Chinese. I reckon he would get sent to a labor camp then.

Mainlanders are terrible people and pretty much nobody likes them.
 
I don't think that people can call the Chinese technology thieves. If you send your technology to a foreign country, then it's a free exchange of ideas. This is what happens when you send it to China and other countries to be manufactured. You just blessed their population with the technology that you were willing to share. That is the cost associated with paying foreign workers $0.05 / hr.

Now if you send the finished product to a foreign country to be sold and they copy it, then it is stolen technology. That's a completely different thing from the free exchange of ideas from my first example.
 
I would state that Apple is Chairmen mao would be a better correlation then hitler, but then that would be an actual death sentence lol.
 
cageymaru said:
I don't think that people can call the Chinese technology thieves. If you send your technology to a foreign country, then it's a free exchange of ideas. This is what happens when you send it to China and other countries to be manufactured. You just blessed their population with the technology that you were willing to share. That is the cost associated with paying foreign workers $0.05 / hr.
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Of course you can.

The chinese factories often complete a production run of a product, and then barely modify the molds and run a second production for themselves as counterfit knockoff goods.

They also reverse-engineer products like you have pointed out would be "real" theft.

But that's not all, they also have spies all over the world that steal blueprints and tech and anything they can get their hands off and sell it in China.

They are notorious thieves, and the government endorses it as a quick way to bridge the technology gap.

But its such a huge market, that companies really can't afford not to do business there, and the Chinese government knows it. The Chinese culture by and large is completely dominated by dishonesty and a "me first" attitude.
 
And for the record, Japan did the exact same thing, and again it was specifically part of the Japanese government's planned and executed global espionage strategy.

They would take a Mercedes apart, completely and blatantly copy everything with no shame, even down to the STYLING, and then sell it as a cheap Mercedes knockoff known as a Lexus. And well before that they were sending huge portions of their younger government members off to study abroad in Universities and collect as much information as possible. They not only studied various forms of government and what not, but even down to the clothing and styles they did their best to blatantly copy everything and anything they liked from the West. That is how Japan quickly went from a complete joke of a bassackwards society to a virtual clone of the West, rapidly industrializing and ramping up for what would eventually become a WW2 superpower (thanks also again to technology and military practices brought by Europeans such as Germans, British, and Americans that taught them everything even how to make aircraft carriers).

But eventually Japan got to the point that they were 100% caught up and then now are innovators in their own right, but China is at present in the same kind of absolute unquestionable espionage and theft mode.
 
well, the Chinese government is nationalist and their ideology is socialism...hmmm national socialism where have I heard that before?
 
jroe52 said:
One similarity and you'd have to be in their 16-20 hour workday shoes to understand are the motivational signs over the foxcon campus we have seen in the past. Often in "steel" arch banners "work will make you happy" similar to Auschwitz camps:
a. barbwire
b. dorms
c. grueling hours
d. mantras of working make you happy signs
e. strict rules (although strict is dramatically different. )

however not similar:
a. everything else (no death camps)

What Apple factories are similar to are the Lowell textile factories in early america (women sent from their homes to education dorm work facilities to work 16 hour days for minimal pay, with curfews etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell_Mill_Girls
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Foxconn != Apple. Apple is just one of their customers.

Almost everything in whatever hardware you are viewing this forum with was made in a Chinese factory.
 
My point is that most of the disgruntleness should be aimed at China and has nothing to do with hitler. Chairmen meow's regime is still in an industrial revolution it will be a few years until think improve. Also hitler wasnt competing in mobile phones, and is not stopping from a better product emerging in the market. The reason it will not be a success globally is due to:
a. poor reputation of poor quality chinese products/knockoffs
b. bypassing international patents
c. fear of spying from chinese government (their approved search engine etc)
d. fear of hacking type software/hardware built into the devices for backdoor access
 
It's actually a perfect analogy. Hitler was an incredible advertiser who had many blind followers, and so does Apple.
 
Megalith said:
It's actually a perfect analogy. Hitler was an incredible advertiser who had many blind followers, and so does Apple.
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Get back to me when Apple invades Samsungoland, LGrance and Googlussia, and starts gassing Android and WP users by the millions.
 
evilsofa said:
Get back to me when Apple invades Samsungoland, LGrance and Googlussia, and starts gassing Android and WP users by the millions.
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I know of one person at my office who has an iPhone and is the kinda person who farts a lot and is proud of it. There are people that are near him who have Androids (not WP...I seriously don't personally know anyone who as one of those) so does that count as gassing?
 
It's kind of true. Hitler or Mao. What's the difference. Both killed millions. Both evil. Just like world most prominent patent troll.
 
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