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I've seen some pretty fast speedruns before but Fallout 3 in 24 minutes? Damn.
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These kind of speedruns are lame; using noclip? pff
Exploit run, not speed run.
Exploits are used in many speed runs.
The clipping ruined it and made it pointless. If you're going to exploit bugs, then you may as well just cheat and beat it in 25 seconds.
The clipping ruined it and made it pointless. If you're going to exploit bugs, then you may as well just cheat and beat it in 25 seconds.
Beat it in 24 minutes, beat it in 24 years.
The plot still won't make any sense at all.
There's a pretty big difference from finding and exploiting game glitches and actually using cheats. It takes some of these speed runners a long time to discover game exploits, so it's not without a level of skill and perceptiveness.
Spending a ridiculous amount of time to do something completely unrewarding that could be done instantly by a script does not make you skilled or perceptive.
I'm more impressed he can run Fallout 3 for 24 seconds without it crashing
This forum seems to have a strange tendency to write off something they do not understand as useless and unrewarding.
The aim of speed run is to complete a game in the shortest time possible, doing whatever the game engine allows you to do, whether or not the dev intended for it to be that way. That as well as skillful executions of course, not all games are as broken as Bethesda's. Platformer games for example, requires skillful executions throughout the entire game to set any respectable time, even with bug exploits.
Putting speed running aside, even in normal playing, people do make use of exploit as they see fit, for example item duping in Oblivion. Heck people have use mods to do stuff that some many deem as cheating, for example a mod that allows you to carry extra or unlimited items.
But who's to say it's a wrong way of playing a game? At the end of the day, our aim is just to have fun, and there's no any rules that dictates what we can and cannot do while having fun with video games. Of course in online games, you can't cheat as you are affecting other players now, but in single player games, people are free to enjoy the game however they see fit.
Speed running is just another way of enjoying a game.
Speed Demos Archive used to disallow this type of run that abused OOB glitches, but pressure from the community made them start accepting OOB runs. I can't watch the video yet, but I'm sure I would share your opinion.Given the method that was used to beat this game I would consider this speed run illegitimate. Thats just my opinion though, not really sure if there are standards when it comes to that sort of thing.
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I'm more impressed he can run Fallout 3 for 24 seconds without it crashing
This forum seems to have a strange tendency to write off something they do not understand as useless and unrewarding.
The aim of speed run is to complete a game in the shortest time possible, doing whatever the game engine allows you to do, whether or not the dev intended for it to be that way.
Speedrunning Fallout 3 is like putting the hog to Kate Upton but hurrying to "get it over with" in five seconds.
This forum seems to have a strange tendency to write off something they do not understand as useless and unrewarding.
The aim of speed run is to complete a game in the shortest time possible, doing whatever the game engine allows you to do, whether or not the dev intended for it to be that way. That as well as skillful executions of course, not all games are as broken as Bethesda's. Platformer games for example, requires skillful executions throughout the entire game to set any respectable time, even with bug exploits.
Putting speed running aside, even in normal playing, people do make use of exploit as they see fit, for example item duping in Oblivion. Heck people have use mods to do stuff that some many deem as cheating, for example a mod that allows you to carry extra or unlimited items.
But who's to say it's a wrong way of playing a game? At the end of the day, our aim is just to have fun, and there's no any rules that dictates what we can and cannot do while having fun with video games. Of course in online games, you can't cheat as you are affecting other players now, but in single player games, people are free to enjoy the game however they see fit.
Speed running is just another way of enjoying a game.
Wrong? No ... but of very limited and specialized value, probably ... can I go to the most expensive restaurant in town, order the most expensive dishes and wines on the menu, and then gobble them down like I was competing in the Nathan Hot Dog Eating Competition ... certainly, and although I personally might find some value or vindication to justify it, that doesn't necessarily make it a value added activity
If these speed runners are truly as skilled as some would make them out to be then they should work with the modders and the game companies to help fix bugs or troubleshoot games and patches ... THAT would be a value added skill I could get behind
Simple, you have to go into the .ini file and tell the game to only run on 2 Cores. Not only does the game not crash running on 2 Cores, it runs smooth. I am using about 20 mods as well.
Find and open (backup first!) the fallout.ini file in "My Documents\My Games\Fallout3"
Find
bUseThreadedAI=0
change it to
bUseThreadedAI=1
Add this line after it
iNumHWThreads=2
Fixed that for you...So what I've read about *INSERT HOBBY HERE* is it is basically like Pogs. Stupid unless you really like pogs.
Fixed that for you...
Goddamn, a lot of you bastards in here are way too dismissive about hobbies you don't enjoy. Really disheartening to read the amount of hate on a hobbyist website such a this.