AOL Outspends Google On Net Neutrality Issues

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Google seriously needs to step up its game if AOL is outspending them on net neutrality issues. :eek:

Most people know that Google, having the biggest tech lobby in Washington aside from the big internet service providers, is constantly fighting to keep the net neutral, but now it seems that another unlikely champion of net neutrality has arisen. America Online (AOL), the company best known for giving the world dial-up internet in the '90s and being one of the country's largest ISPs - has outspent Google on net neutrality issues.
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They have money... Look at all the dumb ass old people in bum fuck egypt that still subscribe to their dial up. Besides they probbaly are laying off more people as we speak to pay for this shit. Still funny though. Even ATT&T or sbcglobal or what ever the fuck their called still have dial up numbers. Who the fuck uses them? Shit, are BBs'es still around? If so I can fire mine up again. Nothing like a good hacked (err modded) WWiV board... Those were the days.
 
It's sad when we're wishing they spent more bribe money to sway things in our favor, what a mess.
 
Google has its own plan.

Their own CDN
Their own ISP
Soon... Their own WWW.
 
Glad to see my 2-4 month subscription paid off back in the day.:D
Coarse, it's sad that either AT&T or Verizon outspends all those for net neutrality combined.:eek:
 
Ummm, spent more money on NN how? As in, paid more lobbyists or donated more to political campaigns?

Oh, paid more lobbyists. Right.
 
flashoverride said:
Ummm, spent more money on NN how? As in, paid more lobbyists or donated more to political campaigns?

Oh, paid more lobbyists. Right.
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Truthfully, it's one and the same. Most lobby groups are headed or ran by former politicians. Chris Dodd jumped ship. There's a few others. They use their time in office to build a network of buddies. When in the lobby sector, they can call upon that network to get favorable treatment.

It's pay to play at it's finest. As a country, we're too lax on the revolving door (see past FCC chairman), the campaign contributions, and the outright corruption.

I'd also like to see term limits on all seats. Get fresh faces. Not this 40year BS. After 40 years around politicians, anyone is bound to be morally corrupt. Move up or get out. Heck, a special police division mandated to hunt corruption as it's only job would be nice - they'd have to answer to the public and be funded by the federal campaign pools to prevent tampering.


Oh and as for AOL. Why are they spending money on NN. Do they even have a product someone would want to charge them for?
 
Spidey329 said:
I'd also like to see term limits on all seats. Get fresh faces. Not this 40year BS. After 40 years around politicians, anyone is bound to be morally corrupt. Move up or get out. Heck, a special police division mandated to hunt corruption as it's only job would be nice - they'd have to answer to the public and be funded by the federal campaign pools to prevent tampering.
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Eh, California got term limits and it didn't seem to help much. If anything, you have veteran lobbyists rubbing their hands together at all the fresh faced newbies coming on board. Not sure what the solution is, outside of feeding all the lobbyists to Godzilla.
 
This is probably because Google doesn't want Net Neutrality. Once they can lay enough fibre they'll be able to negotiate peering agreements for data. If someone pisses off Google by artificially slowing their data Google can respond by lowering search rankings for all that company's results (as well as manipulating public opinion in their favour).
 
Steve said:
Google seriously needs to step up its game if AOL is outspending them on net neutrality issues. :eek:
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psst... Steve, you should actually read the articles.

The direct link you posted mistakenly (or intentionally-misleadingly...) misinterpreted the data that they sourced from the DailyDot...

If the people who published the link you posted had read their own sources, they would have read the source say:
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/lobbyists-net-neutrality-fcc/ said:
Of the five organizations with vested interests in this issue that spent the most money in 2012 (the last year for which we have complete data), four oppose neutrality. All five, though, spent impressive sums:
  1. NCTA $18.89M
  2. Google $18.22M
  3. ATT $17.46M
  4. Verizon $15.02M
  5. comcast $14.68M

AOL doesnt even make the list in terms of money spent. They only beat google on the number of lobying reports mentioning the term "net neutrality". That is an enormous difference between "amount of money spent on lobbying", and I cant believe no one in this link chain actually put 2+2 together... :confused:
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AOL has been free for ages now, they make their money from ads, blogs and most likely other net income ventures.
 
Wierdo said:
It's sad when we're wishing they spent more bribe money to sway things in our favor, what a mess.
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This is about the only chance to help the battle in the short term. But Google and others won't do much. A start-up friendly internetsetting would be Google's only threat, these days. Not that there will be another Google overnight. But another snapchat or Instagram taking away bits and pieced.

Two things are not startup friendly, the type of fees that a Comcast will want to charge and/or a hyper-regulated environment. Both of which create overhead that will prettymuch end the garage startup and leave Google's competition whatever large companies that exists today. Yahoo, AOL? Right.. Until they go out of business.

Google doesn't care which side wins, because they win regardless.
 
Why should Google spend money when it can just infest your brain with tilted search results and targeted exploitation to bend people into sheepishly following and worshiping the all-seeing Google-y eyeball? It'd be lame, at this point, for them to lobby at all since they know everything about everyone and can just blackmail them with their search history or location data off their phones.
 
ghost6303 said:
psst... Steve, you should actually read the articles.

The direct link you posted mistakenly (or intentionally-misleadingly...) misinterpreted the data that they sourced from the DailyDot...

If the people who published the link you posted had read their own sources, they would have read the source say:
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/lobbyists-net-neutrality-fcc/ said:
Of the five organizations with vested interests in this issue that spent the most money in 2012 (the last year for which we have complete data), four oppose neutrality. All five, though, spent impressive sums:
  1. NCTA $18.89M
  2. Google $18.22M
  3. ATT $17.46M
  4. Verizon $15.02M
  5. comcast $14.68M

AOL doesnt even make the list in terms of money spent. They only beat google on the number of lobying reports mentioning the term "net neutrality". That is an enormous difference between "amount of money spent on lobbying", and I cant believe no one in this link chain actually put 2+2 together... :confused:
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Check out those dollar figures. Now imagine it was not necessary to engage in lobbying -- that money could have been spent on improving services.
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