Amendment to CISPA Proposed

CommanderFrank

CommanderFrank

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Back on the Merry-Go-Round for another run at passing CISPA in its entirety, just like last year and the controversy hasn’t waned. This time around, there are actually some calmer and rational voices emerging to offer alternatives in the form of an amendment that would protect the individual’s personally identifiable information from government agencies.

His amendment would require the extirpation of personally identifiable information. Companies would be required to “make reasonable efforts” to meet that benchmark.
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I shudder to think what the definition of "reasonable efforts" would get watered down to .
 
USSR
United
States
Socialist
Republic.

Sadly most people still don't realize what they are continuing to vote for. The two party system has got to go.
 
mynamehere said:
I shudder to think what the definition of "reasonable efforts" would get watered down to .
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Its already watered down. Its wiggle wording that sounds effective but ultimately means nothing.

Even microsoft and facebook have pulled support. I wishnthes guys would give this a rest. But that's the point, iguess. Wear the piblic down.
 
Because attempts to make another party or vote for independents has had a history of working well? I think humans really like binomial systems because they can't really fathom anything deeper than friend or enemy, love or hate, exuberent or depressed. Humans are all bipolar and if you're not thing X you MUST be thing Y instead since there's no possible way you might be somewhere between each extreme or just off doing you own thing.
 
Historically? No, but that doesn't change the fact that the current system is undeniably broken.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
USSR
United
States
Socialist
Republic.

Sadly most people still don't realize what they are continuing to vote for. The two party system has got to go.
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I dare say that if we were a true socialist republic (in the sense that say... Iceland, the only nation in the world that, when faced with banking/financial economic collapse, bailed out THE PEOPLE and put the banksters who orchestrated that fraud in jail, or the nations that have public single-payer healthcare systems and social welfare programs designed to actually benefit the people as opposed to today's quagmires meant to enrich banking and other moneyed private interests), we'd be much better off.

Denigrating "socialism" is how those very private interests with the money, power and control, get people to be afraid of all government, especially exactly what we need right now: a government that serves the interests of We The People; it is the biggest threat to the continued private/corporate interests' control.

We need more "socialism", but I agree we also need to obliterate the two party system. The best things you can do for this is to support say.. Free And Fair Elections, Move To Amend , and parties like the Green Party (Jill Stein), along with movements like Occupy.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Historically? No, but that doesn't change the fact that the current system is undeniably broken.
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It could use some help, I guess. Then again, people have been complaining about governments for as long as there have been people. At this point, I would think we'd just accept the fact that everyone's a Grumpy Gus (Cat) about who they put in charge of themselves and leave it at that.

DeathPrincess said:
I'm Z. Dragon, Dragonball Z.
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NO! Go be X or Y or else!
 
Dekoth-E- said:
USSR
United
States
Socialist
Republic.

Sadly most people still don't realize what they are continuing to vote for. The two party system has got to go.
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Sad but true. Why people still think more government control (i.e socialism) is a good idea, is beyond me.
 
While maybe inteligence agency's need this law, apparently other parts of the goverment can already track you at will, ie the IRS.


The IRS has brought in private industry experts to employ similar digital tracking--but with the added advantage of access to Social Security numbers, health records, credit card transactions and many other privileged forms of information that marketers don't see.

"Private industry would be envious if they knew what our models are," boasted Dean Silverman
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In presentations, officials have said they may use the big data for:

-- Charting and analyzing social media such as Facebook

-- Targeting audits by matching tax filings to social media or electronic payments

-- Tracking individual Internet addresses and emailing patterns

-- Sorting data in 32,000 categories of metadata and 1 million unique "attributes"

-- Machine learning across "neural" networks

-- Statistical and agent-based modeling

-- Relationship analysis based on Social Security numbers and other personal identifiers
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/irs-high-tech-tools-track-202006116.html
 
Dekoth-E- said:
USSR
United
States
Socialist
Republic.

Sadly most people still don't realize what they are continuing to vote for. The two party system has got to go.
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thewooster said:
Sad but true. Why people still think more government control (i.e socialism) is a good idea, is beyond me.
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It truly is amazing the number of people who keep getting fascism and socialism mixed up!! Especially in this age of google and wikipedia...
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
Because attempts to make another party or vote for independents has had a history of working well? I think humans really like binomial systems because they can't really fathom anything deeper than friend or enemy, love or hate, exuberent or depressed. Humans are all bipolar and if you're not thing X you MUST be thing Y instead since there's no possible way you might be somewhere between each extreme or just off doing you own thing.
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The ancient symbol we all know as the yin-yang

I never believed in this symbol simply due to the need for zero. The yin-yang doesn't allow for zero and without it...advancement is not possible.

in this particular context....zero equates to "other" (which includes 3rd party and all those that either don't care or can't legally vote). Interesting enough, this is usually the deciding factor in elections. While everyone gets into heated debates over what amounts to mindless minutia, it's "other" that ends up making the choice. lol....it's kinda like a hotly contested divorce battle.
 
Xaeos said:
I dare say that if we were a true socialist republic (in the sense that say... Iceland, the only nation in the world that, when faced with banking/financial economic collapse, bailed out THE PEOPLE and put the banksters who orchestrated that fraud in jail, or the nations that have public single-payer healthcare systems and social welfare programs designed to actually benefit the people as opposed to today's quagmires meant to enrich banking and other moneyed private interests), we'd be much better off.

Denigrating "socialism" is how those very private interests with the money, power and control, get people to be afraid of all government, especially exactly what we need right now: a government that serves the interests of We The People; it is the biggest threat to the continued private/corporate interests' control.

We need more "socialism", but I agree we also need to obliterate the two party system. The best things you can do for this is to support say.. Free And Fair Elections, Move To Amend , and parties like the Green Party (Jill Stein), along with movements like Occupy.
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10's of millions of dead bodies in Russia would say you're wrong.
 
100 has it right. O,the current Dictator-In-Chief,n' DHS seem to be headed in the same direction.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=VlN2t0oERHk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVlN2t0oERHk
 
Dekoth-E- said:
USSR
United
States
Socialist
Republic.

Sadly most people still don't realize what they are continuing to vote for. The two party system has got to go.
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1984 is coming a lot more quickly than I think most ever thought it would.... :(.
 
mesyn191 said:
It truly is amazing the number of people who keep getting fascism and socialism mixed up!! Especially in this age of google and wikipedia...
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I find it truly amazing that with all of that info out there, people like you can't figure out what said info actually means....
 
thewooster said:
They tend to go hand in hand if you want to go there.
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Nope. They're 2 very different forms of government that litterally cannot go hand in hand.

GoldenTiger said:
I find it truly amazing that with all of that info out there, people like you can't figure out what said info actually means....
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If he (and you) are trying to equate socialism with fascism, using the USSR acronym of all things (which was nominally a communist country but really was a totalitarian single party state), then neither of you know what you're talking about.
 
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