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Considering this is running on an Intel dual-core Atom Z2580 processor, the performance is pretty impressive.
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Considering this is running on an Intel dual-core Atom Z2580 processor, the performance is pretty impressive.
Well, I did run it on my iPhone 4 quite a while back. Is that impressive?
nope.
Hmm, to cross the threshold of impressiveness we need a dual-core Atom?
So it was originally... Epic Fail?In our pants. Yes!
I could have sworn there was another phone capable...I am actually interested in having something like a Galaxy 3 with a decent gaming capable output to a tv for example. So use the phone as a controller on the tv. Instant mini console.
I think for years people have wondered if Intel could get x86 into a power envelop close to ARM what was capable of running x86 most decently. I think the next version of the Atom, Bay Trail, just might be the trick. While Clover Trail certainly isn't a speed demon and can't power much in the way of higher end desktop software, the fact that x86 devices that are as think and light as many ARM tablets that can run full x86 desktop OSes is pretty impressive, while getting the battery life of ARM devices.
Now Intel just needs to get the speed cranked up. It looks like Bay Trail on paper is promising roughly the performance of Sandy Bridge ULVs from 2011. If that's the case and the Bay Trail devices are as thin and light and a power efficient as Clover Trail devices or better and the prices are good, Intel could have a very interesting part on it's hands.
Yes, just yes.
Bay Trail chips are expected to offer twice the performance of the Clover Trail processors powering Windows 8 tablets today, while offering lower power consumption (and heat generation). That means we should see tablets with longer battery life and thinner cases — Intel says you can build a Bay Trail tablet that’s just about 8mm (0.3 inches) thick.
Twice the performance of Clover Trail
I have to say, that is pretty impressive.
Looks like the Atom has come a long ways since the days of the N270.
If doubled the overall performance of this:
not sure why it's unreasonable to think you wouldn't be pretty close to this:
Just as heatlesssun, I'm sure he'll know.Is it being rendered in software mode?
Clover Trail had four years to gain a little over 12% in average performance, and you're telling me that by Q3 2013 that Bay Trail will be twice as fast as Clover Trail, with near Sandy Bridge performance???
wtf are you smoking...
You do realize that the two CPUs you linked are basically identical right? You do realize that Intel has done almost zero work on Atom since its introduction. The only major differences have been more device integration (reduced cost to Intel) and reduced idle power consumption. They have done precisely nothing on performance improvements. The newer result you link is 12% faster... because its clocked 12% faster. They got that for free when moving from 45nm to 32nm.
BayTrail will push Atom to 22nm, finally catching up with IvyBridge. That gives maybe 10-20% headroom in clockspeed (leaks show turbo up to 2.7ghz). As well BayTrail is quad core. So yeah, were already at 2x theoretical. Now add in the most important change in Atom's history... out-of-order execution finally. Feel free to lookup the performance improvements between Cortex A9 and A15 as ARM included out-of-order.
I'll wait for the real benchmarks personally, but your responses seem really uninformed.
Tell that to heatlesssun.You do realize that Intel has done almost zero work on Atom since its introduction.
Just as heatlesssun, I'm sure he'll know.
I asked because i'd credit the performance to the GPU rather than the Atom.
Tell that to heatlesssun.
He's the one that's been going on and on about Clover Trail and its mighty performance compared to other Atom processors, which, as you stated, are all basically the same thing (which they are).
Who's .uninformed?
I asked because i'd credit the performance to the GPU rather than the Atom.
haha, yeah I would too.
When it comes to running Windows 8, from performance to battery life to heat output, the Samsung Clover Trail tablet I've been using everyday for the last four months now is far superior compared to the HP Slate 500 Z540 Atom tablet that I also run Windows 8 on. In almost the same weight with the same capacity battery the Samsung runs all of my common desktop applications much better and gets twice the battery life. Metro doesn't work at 1024x600, the native resolution of the HP Slate 500, though it is possible to emulate 1024x768 and run Metro apps. However it's a bad experience.
Handwriting recognition doesn't eat many CPU cycles, hence why I haven't seen any serious benchmarks for it.All I've done is report my real world experience and I never said that the Samsung performed much better solely because of the Z2760 or how mighty Clover Trail is. I would imagine Ion based Atom devices would do much better. But nothing in those benchmarks tells a person how fast and accurate the handwriting recognition is or how well a web page scrolls or pinch zooms and that's what I was talking about, not theoretical benchmarks.
Your point is...?
Handwriting recognition doesn't eat many CPU cycles, hence why I haven't seen any serious benchmarks for it.
Damn straight.3. If you want to build an AMD-based Linux box, talk to Red Falcon.
I gave examples of real-world benchmarks such as rendering and transcoding, you know, things that actually use more than 1% of the CPU.I'm talking about real world use and you're talking about synthetic benchmarks. That's my point.
Should I even mention that you are comparing two tablets from 2012 to one from 2008?That of course depends on the CPU. Core i5/i7 CPUs obviously show much less of a spike than of course Atoms but inking is quite a bit more responsive on this Samsung 500T than the HP Slate.
"Something simply runs better in the real world", you mean like the controllers, drivers, and touch functionality that have all vastly improved in that time-frame?I'm not saying that that's all due to the Z2760 but again something simply runs better in the real world.
Damn straight.
heatlesssun could have a supercomputer in his sig, and it would not make his posts any more credible.