Video Games and Porn Creating the ‘Demise of Guys’?

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Yet another in a series of concepts blaming the Internet for all of the troubles of the world. This time Dr. Phillip Zimbardo combines two of the most maligned areas of the Internet, video games and porn, cobbles them together to create what he considers to be the major source of the ‘Demise of Guys’, unless of course, there is adequate female interest in either topic. ;) Thanks to The Weazmeister for the heads up.

Increasingly, researchers say yes, as young men become hooked on arousal, sacrificing their schoolwork and relationships in the pursuit of getting a tech-based buzz.
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So we traded this.....
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for this....
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Not seeing a huge difference :p
 
fair trade i say,
a better deal than say... an XBX360 for your soul


oh wait....
 
I can see a slight bit of truth to this...i love my games and as well porn but too much of anything is bad for us. Gaming and porn online is pretty much an endless, its an exercise in self regulation that we have to try and reenforce. Now if youll excuse me, I have to get back to my Brazilian fart porn
 
Increasingly, researchers say yes, as young men become hooked on arousal, sacrificing their schoolwork and relationships in the pursuit of getting a tech-based buzz.
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Also know as priorities.
 
Sounds to me like someone isn't dealing well with the fact that guys have other distractions and don't "need" to put up with some insane chicks bullshit anymore.
 
Surely it has nothing to do with society constantly belittle males and portraying them as bumbling idiots next to the smart, educated, informed female. See advertising and television lately? If men are "less manly" than 60 years ago it's not because of video games and porn. It's more a matter of political correctness and men not being allowed to be what they are.
 
psyclist said:
I can see a slight bit of truth to this...i love my games and as well porn but too much of anything is bad for us. Gaming and porn online is pretty much an endless, its an exercise in self regulation that we have to try and reenforce. Now if youll excuse me, I have to get back to my Brazilian fart porn
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lmao
 
I loved the comments on the site. They went from video games to heroin addiction in .5 seconds.
 
Phoenix333 said:
Surely it has nothing to do with society constantly belittle males and portraying them as bumbling idiots next to the smart, educated, informed female. See advertising and television lately? If men are "less manly" than 60 years ago it's not because of video games and porn. It's more a matter of political correctness and men not being allowed to be what they are.
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The "dad" stereotype is downright appalling. It's pretty much pervasive in every damn form of media end entertainment. From commercials, to cartoons.

Granted, it's about damn time we had some sort of inequality towards men... But, in a world striving FOR equality, it needs to be realized in every damn facet.
 
I think there may be some sense of truth to this but the article completely ignores the effects of a changing society on women. I'm sure men are different today in some ways then they were 50 years ago, but look at women today versus then. Just as big of a difference.

And the bit about relationships and risk aversion is completely wrong, imo:
The consequences could be dramatic: The excessive use of video games and online porn in pursuit of the next thing is creating a generation of risk-averse guys who are unable (and unwilling) to navigate the complexities and risks inherent to real-life relationships, school and employment.
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So I'm a male right in the target age-range they are talking about (upper 20s) and I've been playing video games since I was eight, and exposed to the internet since 13. I don't personally have any interest in marriage but it has nothing to do with my "unwillingness" or inability to handle the "complexities and risks inherent to real life relationships". Marriage has become an increasing liability for men. I live in Florida and almost every man I know who has been divorced has lost huge sums of money, or property, or custody of their children, or some combination of all of these. Even in cases where the woman had her own job, her own money and didn't contribute to any part of the household. Not to mention that all of my friends, sans one, who have been married in the last 2-3 years have spent $10,000-$20,000 on a wedding and that's actually on the low end of how much traditional weddings cost these days. And that doesn't even include the cost of an engagement ring.

I don't feel that there are any benefits to my getting married that I can't just get while in an un-married relationship, and certainly not benefits worth my financial future.
 
Phoenix333 said:
Surely it has nothing to do with society constantly belittle males and portraying them as bumbling idiots next to the smart, educated, informed female. See advertising and television lately? If men are "less manly" than 60 years ago it's not because of video games and porn. It's more a matter of political correctness and men not being allowed to be what they are.
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Well you see, the reason for that is because the people that are running things (and I don't mean the government) want the women in control because they are unstable because of the menstrual cycle (not unlike being bipolar). Unstable people generally aren't very successful and successful people are competition. They don't want competition, they want mindless consumers that will work for peanuts. The more chaotic, the better (for 'them'). It's a conspiracy I tell you...

Or it could just be that most people are being raised by single mothers these days and never get taught how to be a man in the first place.

But then again, the second one is probably because of the first one. :p
 
"Increasingly, researchers say yes, as young women become hooked on shopping, sacrificing their schoolwork and relationships in the pursuit of getting a shopping-based buzz."

I can make wide sweeping discriminatory generalizations too. :p

We have always had distractions to keep us entertained. Is watching a baseball game and "reading" playboy really that much better than playing Gran Turismo and looking at internet porn?

At least on the internet there's the potential to learn things, unlike television. I learned HTML/Javascript/BASIC/C/C++, networking, and PC building on the internet all before I graduated high school. Maybe we should stop blaming the internet and video games, and start taking personal responsibility?
 
eh, I hope porn "addiction" becomes the norm worldwide. Having great inspirational material to rub one off will help prevent many conflicts, and many babies... two things we need way less of on this planet... especially in the 3rd world, where, surprise surprise, attitudes toward pornography are the most backwards...
 
So women what a guy who doesn't play video games and basically act like a geek? I found the perfect guy.

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But those guys usually result in this.
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Usually breed this.
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Phoenix333 said:
Surely it has nothing to do with society constantly belittle males and portraying them as bumbling idiots next to the smart, educated, informed female. See advertising and television lately? If men are "less manly" than 60 years ago it's not because of video games and porn. It's more a matter of political correctness and men not being allowed to be what they are.
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Just like what Bill Maher said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4iHCfuRWIQ
 
It's that whole sweet but bumbling dad trope that I see on a lot of tv shows now that makes me cringe. Yeah, I see tons of those young hot women running around with a guy that has a beer gut and a 9to5 in real life. Really, I do.

You know it's funny, my ex used to complain about how I would get sucked into my computer for hours (most of it reading journal articles for my work and not video games) and not pay attention to her. Huh, wonder where she went... ;)
 
"Men are in danger of having poor priorities! They should be focusing on us, and not their silly toys!"

Oh look, another femnazi saying that men are only good for working themselves to death for woman, and nothing else

When a woman for a man:

1) Pays for a date
2) Opens the car door for
3) Lavishes them with flowers, gifts and chocolate

Then I'll say society has come full circle, till then, I'll tell them to STFU if they complain about anything minor.

The more I read about it, the more this woman talks about how men should "Grow up" and "Be responsible" for woman. Great! now, flip that expectation, I want woman to "Grow up" and "Be responsible for men. Which means:

1) No more buying over 9000 useless pieces of crap for the home, like toaster cozys
2) Buying yet another set of curtains for the home
3) Owning hundreds of sets of outfits and shoes, but never wear them

The worst part? The woman buying all that useless shit for the house? They try to pass that off as "Improving the home" or some shit. Shit that drives men absolutely fucking insane.

I get why they do it, men's brains work on spacial recognition and function, woman's brains work on item observation, meaning men's brains work more on having functional space and living quarters, so men all they need is a couch and a TV in a room to feel complete, but that's not enough visual stimulation for woman, so they buy tons of things to fill the room that gives it "Character" and makes it to them visually and emotionally stimulating

Either drives either sex nuts. Woman get mad that a Lazy-Boy and TV costs $6000, men get mad that fake flowers, wall hanging mirrors reflecting nothing, crystal ponies in oak cabinets that cost $6000 is useless.

This woman, saying "Men should stop enjoying themselves" and focus on woman needs a life lesson, and is in no way suitable to be teaching how "Men should think" cause she's not a man, she's a woman on the outside looking in.

If this article was co-written by a man and a woman, it would be in an entirely different tone that both men -AND- woman shouldn't be so short term goal oriented, like men should plan more for the future then a new videogame, woman should plan more for the future then some expensive perfume, which is what I think the woman was trying to get at, but got buried in a mountain of femnazism on her part
 
A couple things are happening. One, men have other diversions from women. Since all women have snakes in their head this is something men find attractive. Second, besides being nuts, a lot of women nowadays are into relationships its seems solely to belittle their male partner. Third, society constantly belittles men, especially dads, and medicates boys in school. So, Fourth, men are basically dropping out of the above BS.

That said, I don't want us to be like Japanese men that actually go on "vacations" with digital avatars.
 
Anyone else absolutely f'ing sick of just how shallow, selfish and materialistic most women are. They drone on and on about themselves and their needs and if we don't listen attentively 100% of the time WE are somehow the selfish ones. Amazing! Her money is her money and YOUR money is also her money. Then there's sex, which she uses as yet one more weapon of control. Of course, she is also mad at you for not being "a leader" even as she does everything to subdue you to being her servant. Hey ladies! We are human beings, not human vending machines!
 
While we're on it, can we just quit with the little female waif bad ass warrior character in just about every movie nowadays? Also, is there not ANY clubs left in the world that can be all-male so we have ONE place in the world to not be nagged?
 
This is hilarious. I am sorry but video games and porn make weak men? ROFL. This nerd happens to have a hot wife who plays video games with him. Oh I am an active duty Marine Ofifcer, a combat vet with multiple tours and I was raised by my father because my mother was a POS. I stay active, build rifles as a hobby and work hard in the dirt when I need to. I participate in power lifting compitions on occasion. Not saying any or all of this is a requirment to call yourself a "man" but seeing the tone of the article this women may be the one who needs to get out more. Being a man is more than being a beef eating ass kicker. Its articles like this that confuse me and I always do a chimp scratch as to what exactly scociety is trying to tell me.
 
Guys embracing porn & video games are simply men rejecting traditional gender roles the same way women rejected being house wives and burned their bras in the 60s & 70s. Guys are expected to get a job, have a family, blah blah blah. Well guess what, they've seen their dads, friends, and coworkers get royally screwed over by the system in divorce and whatnot, and how women reward cads with gobs of sex while stand-up guys go without any female affection in many cases. It's no wonder video games and porn are the outlet of choice for so many guys these days, no pun intended. See also the Herbivore movement of Japan and the increasing number of guys going their own way (aka MGTOW) in Westernized nations.
 
Some of the commentors need to click the link and do some reading, because Dr. Helen is pointing out that the study is just as ridiculous as we see it to be.
 
BobSutan said:
Guys embracing porn & video games are simply men rejecting traditional gender roles the same way women rejected being house wives and burned their bras in the 60s & 70s. Guys are expected to get a job, have a family, blah blah blah. Well guess what, they've seen their dads, friends, and coworkers get royally screwed over by the system in divorce and whatnot, and how women reward cads with gobs of sex while stand-up guys go without any female affection in many cases. It's no wonder video games and porn are the outlet of choice for so many guys these days, no pun intended. See also the Herbivore movement of Japan and the increasing number of guys going their own way (aka MGTOW) in Westernized nations.
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this is really it. I watched my dad and his dad and the ruin that my mother put him through, I watched my friends who "became" adults in their early 20s lose all enjoyment of life and/or watch their life fall apart as they started a family and did all the bullshit expected of the male... Many of us saw how the "male role" crushes the soul and turned away from it. it's not about being girly or weak, it is about going your own way.

there are some good women who get it too, but they are few and far between. I lucked out in that most of the ones i hang around don't want traditional men either, and are actually just as into video games and porn as men
 
jfreund said:
Some of the commentors need to click the link and do some reading, because Dr. Helen is pointing out that the study is just as ridiculous as we see it to be.
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QFT. Dr Helen is on our side assuming we have one that is. She doesn't blame guys for pulling out and refusing the play they game. for background check out Roissy
 
reimann3 said:
QFT. Dr Helen is on our side assuming we have one that is. She doesn't blame guys for pulling out and refusing the play they game. for background check out Roissy
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Yup. Roissy, Dr T, Dr Helen, Roosh, /r/mensrights, /r/seduction, The Rational Male, National Coalition For Men (NCFM), Fathers & Families, A Voice For Men, and even The Spearhead are the crux of the manosphere as far as I'm concerned.
 
Uh, why is everything the man's fault?

Women, if you are less interesting than 'Generic Video Game X", it's your fault, not ours.
 
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