Seagate Reaches 1 Terabit Per Square Inch Milestone

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Seagate has become the first hard drive maker to achieve the milestone storage density of 1 terabit (1 trillion bits) per square inch, producing a demonstration of the technology that promises to double the storage capacity of today’s hard drives upon its introduction later this decade and give rise to 3.5-inch hard drives with an extraordinary capacity of up to 60 terabytes over the 10 years that follow. The bits within a square inch of disk space, at the new milestone, far outnumber stars in the Milky Way, which astronomers put between 200 billion and 400 billion.
 
I hope it helps with the Seagate momentus XT reaching 1tb. If they can reach 1tb at the same or increase cache for $100 I will buy one for my laptop.
 
What would be wrong with 5.25-inch disks like the old Quantum Bigfoots, and then have 100 terabytes, I mean, we still have 5.25 drive bays, why not use them :p
 
How long would it take to completely hash one of these drives for DC++?
 
anthrex said:
I hope it helps with the Seagate momentus XT reaching 1tb. If they can reach 1tb at the same or increase cache for $100 I will buy one for my laptop.
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Multiplatter, should be doable. Probably be 12-18 months after release before prices hit that point, though, since 0.5tb drives are around there now.

MindBuster said:
What would be wrong with 5.25-inch disks like the old Quantum Bigfoots, and then have 100 terabytes, I mean, we still have 5.25 drive bays, why not use them :p
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They would have to retool their equipment and redesign to manufacture them, it would be costly and there wouldn't be that much demand - that's an awful law of porn to watch. ;)
 
Ashbringer said:
New 10 Terabyte Seagate hard drive, with 3 month warranty. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, and that's IF you pay for the extended coverage option.

Nice to see densities getting up there, though. Kudos to Seagate for achieving this.
 
megastorage, and megafailure.
seagate needs to work on quality before quantity.

chance of losing all your porn is too high. Talk about all eggs in one basket.

my 500gb seagate hard drive randomly sprung 160 bad sectors all in the same cluster of the disk and crashed the system.
luckily i was able to reallocate.
 
dr.kevin said:
megastorage, and megafailure.
seagate needs to work on quality before quantity.

chance of losing all your porn is too high. Talk about all eggs in one basket.

my 500gb seagate hard drive randomly sprung 160 bad sectors all in the same cluster of the disk and crashed the system.
luckily i was able to reallocate.
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All drives are a single point failure. Having your data split across X drives and no backups is borderline foolish. You are less likely to lose all your data but you are more likely to lose some data. I would rather have 2 large drives that are duplicated in seperate rigs.
 
Melon said:
I wonder if it'll increase the fail rate as well?
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Unfortunately that was my first thought as well. Partly because just in general reliability seems to have gone downhill each time some new innovation in mechanical disks comes about... and partly just because it's Seagate. Sadly the Seagate nomenclature just doesn't instill the same confidence it did in the 1990's.

Seriously, it seems that in general platter based drive reliability has plummeted since the introduction of perpendicular recording (Get Perpendicular!!!). Anyone else notice this?

It's the new trend in drives - pay three times as much (Flooding, yay!) and get half the reliability.
 
MindBuster said:
What would be wrong with 5.25-inch disks like the old Quantum Bigfoots, and then have 100 terabytes, I mean, we still have 5.25 drive bays, why not use them :p
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The motor dying earlier is likely to occur due to the increased mass/inertia of the platters, assuming they spin at the standard 5400 or 7200 RPM.

Think about how long a virus scan would take... You better plan a weekend trip.
 
Considering that, in my experience, the failure rate for 2TB drives across the board are still too high...100TB would be pretty stupid. Good to know that it is technologically possible, but now I suppose they'll have to work on ensuring quality.

Or maybe they'll just release the drive and laugh all the way to the bank.
 
you guys are extrapolating one variable, the space of the HDD, and not the other, the size of the files. I'm sure someone in the 1980s said "What!?! 500 gigabyte? That's much too large a point of failure. I would never trust my millions of documents and spreadsheets to that" Today, that holds about 10 blurays. Not exactly a tragedy if it were to fail. In 10 years, we might see 50GB+ games, 250GB+ movies/media. 30-40MP common cameras.
 
Problem is the speed has hit a wall 10 years ago. Can you imagine the rebuild time required for a 10TB drive? With density increases should come speed increases. 3TB drives in the enterprise sector are borderline, I cannot imagine a 10TB 7,200rpm drive, or worse, a 20TB.
 
Ryan711 said:
you guys are extrapolating one variable, the space of the HDD, and not the other, the size of the files. I'm sure someone in the 1980s said "What!?! 500 gigabyte? That's much too large a point of failure. I would never trust my millions of documents and spreadsheets to that" Today, that holds about 10 blurays. Not exactly a tragedy if it were to fail. In 10 years, we might see 50GB+ games, 250GB+ movies/media. 30-40MP common cameras.
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That's a good point, but for generic office use I'd be surprised to see it grow that quickly.
 
As storage capacity grows higher, I tend to worry more about the quality of the hard drive and data loss. For example, I have yet to find a good 1 TB hard drive for me. With current hard drive prices, it's preventing me from buying multiples of them to have a backup drive.

Like, I don't put much trust in WD or Seagate given I've gone through multiple drives made by them (and lost quite a bit of data along the way).

Hopefully other manufacturers-- more reliable ones for that matter-- use similar technology to increase drive space. Unless, you guys know reliable hard drive manufacturers you can put your trust in 1 TB-plus hard drives.
 
Make sure your case is well ventilated with a big fan on the hard drives. Number one killer of hard drives is a poorly ventilated case with no hard drive cooling. That cuts a hard drives life by 3/4. Heat Kills
 
Ryan711 said:
you guys are extrapolating one variable, the space of the HDD, and not the other, the size of the files. I'm sure someone in the 1980s said "What!?! 500 gigabyte? That's much too large a point of failure. I would never trust my millions of documents and spreadsheets to that" Today, that holds about 10 blurays. Not exactly a tragedy if it were to fail. In 10 years, we might see 50GB+ games, 250GB+ movies/media. 30-40MP common cameras.
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On the other hand, we do reach practical limits. Tablet and laptop computers have all but replaced desktops because most people don't need, nor even have the interest, in the power of a desktop.

15 years ago, no one had enough hard drive space. Now, everyone who isn't a video packrat has enough hard drive space. 15 years from now, storage capacity, per se, will be a non-issue. And, only twitty snobs will insist that they need more than 4K resolution, even though though won't be able to distinguish between 4K and 16K resolution in blind A-B tests (at viewing distance), meaning no market demand for 250GB movies, just like there's no real market for audio over 48Khz, even though such audio has been trivial for a while.
 
I know everyone knocks seagate's quality but i've had dozens of them that lasted until they were obsolete without a failure. Am i just lucky or are they actually that bad?

Excuse me, need to investigate this strange clicking noise on my case, i wonder what that could be. :D
 
Astronomica said:
I know everyone knocks seagate's quality but i've had dozens of them that lasted until they were obsolete without a failure. Am i just lucky or are they actually that bad?

Excuse me, need to investigate this strange clicking noise on my case, i wonder what that could be. :D
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I've just taken delivery of a new Seagate Barracuda 2TB drive, and this thread isn't exactly filling me with confidence lol, At least the new drive will be sat next to a big fan and sharing its workload with an SSD :D

That said, almost all my drives over the last 12 years have been Seagate and in that i've only had one 250gb drive fail, it was about 5 years old at the time and at least had the decency to give me plenty of warning to get my stuff off it (it didnt completely fail, but it was clicking a lot and the SMART numbers didn't inspire confidence). Meanwhile an identical drive I bought at the same time is still going strong in the machine I gave to my parents.

Not too fond of the shorter warranties these days though, that was the main reason I didn't 'future proof' and grab a 3TB drive.

At least the 'Acronis lite' software Seagate provide runs backups a lot faster than the Windows 7 backup so I actualy do backup my data now.
 
How about this..

raise the base warranty back to 3 years and for the love of god bring back the 5 year warranty especially on your enterprise storage. :rolleyes:

That being said about frigging time we have larger 2.5" drives. My 3x 1tbs in my laptop are nearly full. 2 tb + for the win:D
 
octoberasian said:
As storage capacity grows higher, I tend to worry more about the quality of the hard drive and data loss. For example, I have yet to find a good 1 TB hard drive for me. With current hard drive prices, it's preventing me from buying multiples of them to have a backup drive.

Like, I don't put much trust in WD or Seagate given I've gone through multiple drives made by them (and lost quite a bit of data along the way).

Hopefully other manufacturers-- more reliable ones for that matter-- use similar technology to increase drive space. Unless, you guys know reliable hard drive manufacturers you can put your trust in 1 TB-plus hard drives.
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What other manufacturers? They're all bought out by WD and Seagate.
 
Astronomica said:
I know everyone knocks seagate's quality but i've had dozens of them that lasted until they were obsolete without a failure. Am i just lucky or are they actually that bad?
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Seagate was the go-to drive for reliability and relative silence until the 7200.11 hit the shelves. Something changed... either standards in manufacturing or in quality control. Either way Seagate quality doesn't mean what it used to mean.


But the whole thing about reliability tanking the higher the density seems to be true for pretty much all of the well known manufacturers to varying degrees. Right now the most reliable drives seem to be Samsungs... and it doesn't hurt much that they are pretty speedy and quiet too. :)
 
Drive density goes up, bandwidth goes down. Its all a conspiracy to make you pay overage charges :rolleyes:
 
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