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AMD was today named by Corporate Knights to its inaugural list of the S&P 500 Clean Capitalism Ranking, placing among the top twenty companies to be recognized. Corporate Knights, which defines “clean capitalism” as “responsible, resource-productive and socially just”, employs a transparent, quantitative methodology to compile its ranking, evaluating factors such as energy and carbon productivity, leadership diversity and employee turnover.
 
And this is why - even though I can't currently justify using an AMD CPU in my main rig, I am an AMD fan, and resent the fact that I have to have an Intel CPU. :mad:
 
Having just left a company that could be considered for the "dirty" list, I can really appreciate this.

I'm honestly re-considering my next build.
 
If they don't make a profit and supply low end parts doesn't that make them more a "socialist" charity rather than good natured capitalists? :p /runs
 
DeathPrincess said:
If they don't make a profit and supply low end parts doesn't that make them more a "socialist" charity rather than good natured capitalists? :p /runs
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Funny :D, but they did release the 7900 series so are now definitely back on the road to capitalism.
 
Regardless of personal opinion, you can't dispute the fact that AMD stock is up 34% in the last month.
 
if they can make a decent gaming CPU Ill definitely base my next build around them. Intel is just far better for my purposes
 
cj3waker said:
if they can make a decent gaming CPU Ill definitely base my next build around them. Intel is just far better for my purposes
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Depends on what you game on, really. If you're looking for a desktop build, Intel + High-end graphic card = better.

If it's a notebook, though, and you don't want to spend an arm-and-a-leg, then AMD would be the way to go. Their developments are targeting just this sector. (I've got a $500 Llano/Sabine A8, and...for $500...it rocks.)
 
They've been the victim of dirty capitalism pretty often. Between Intel's behavior with OEMs and TWIMTBP, they've had a rough fight with people paying off their partners to screw them.

They are a prime example of nice guys finishing last.
 
Stuff like this makes me proud to support AMD. Even if they aren't the performance leader, I'm supporting a company that does business in a responsible and just way. If that means I lose 10fps over Intel, I'm cool with that.
 
Konig-Wolf said:
Stuff like this makes me proud to support AMD. Even if they aren't the performance leader, I'm supporting a company that does business in a responsible and just way. If that means I lose 10fps over Intel, I'm cool with that.
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They are all evil assholes. That do the same crap when it suits them and lie and cheat, because thats how they all are in the real world. The whole "holier than thou" crap that they push is just fantasy, all companies will do as much crap as possible as long as they know they wont be caught. Buying a worse product because of some belief just makes you have a worse product, and encourages them to push out crap and not try as hard, which in the end will just put them out of business faster. The reason they are the underdog, is because they put themselves there just as much as some evil comic book hero is sitting there launch maniacally in Intel's mountain castle. :p
 
Wow, so it's fairly clear to me from the HEAVY HEAVY AMD advertising and 'news' articles that AMD is basically bankrolling this site now. Basically feels like there's a shill getting front page posts now.

PLEASE ease up, it's getting a little tiring.
 
Zarathustra[H];1038361040 said:
huh?

So the fact that they do business ethically is a negative for you?

You must be really proud to buy from Intel then :rolleyes:
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There's a difference between being ethical and being politically correct. These sound the the freaking PC awards. PC is mindless checklist following.

No wonder AMD is hanging on by a thread (and microsoft).
 
masquap said:
Wow, so it's fairly clear to me from the HEAVY HEAVY AMD advertising and 'news' articles that AMD is basically bankrolling this site now. Basically feels like there's a shill getting front page posts now.

PLEASE ease up, it's getting a little tiring.
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What?

When something has to be said, Kyle and the crew don't hesitate to tell it like it is. Go search the reviews for bad AMD products around here and see if they lie or even try to make it softer.

Hate to tell you, Intel isn't going to get on a list like this one anytime soon.
 
masquap said:
Wow, so it's fairly clear to me from the HEAVY HEAVY AMD advertising and 'news' articles that AMD is basically bankrolling this site now. Basically feels like there's a shill getting front page posts now.

PLEASE ease up, it's getting a little tiring.
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your bias is showing
 
It seems Intel trolls just feed off this. I don't understand the hatred of AMD. I have used Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Cyrix, VIA. My 286 was Intel, my 386 was AMD, My 486 was Intel, my Celeron was Intel. I mean jeez the company isn't competitive in the CPU space right now but you cannot fault them for doing ethical business.

Intel and Nvidia are FAR from ethical, either currently or historically. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't buy their products if they fit my need and the $ was right. You have to choose for yourself. But do not just shit on a company making good choices overall even if their x86 guys have been failing them on the high end. They're kicking ass everywhere else.
 
masquap said:
Wow, so it's fairly clear to me from the HEAVY HEAVY AMD advertising and 'news' articles that AMD is basically bankrolling this site now. Basically feels like there's a shill getting front page posts now.

PLEASE ease up, it's getting a little tiring.
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Must not feed troll. Must feed troll to sharks :D
 
Not to discredit AMD but take rankings like that with a grain of salt. It's certainly not something that makes me stand up and say "oh wow, well done, you have my support!". Come on... Nike is ranked 3rd. They still have their child labor powered sweat shops in 3rd world countries that pump out most of their products.
 
I buy AMD/ATI and have since the Slot A Athlon and Radeon 7000; as long as they have products with good performance that I can work with at a good price, I'll continue to buy from them.

Everything else is just gravy.
 
Can anyone provide a link to this list? I can only find the top 100 global companies for 2011 and they aren't even on that list. I do recognize other ones though.
 
stealthy123 said:
your bias is showing
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Wait, so my bias is showing because I point out someone else's?

I made no indication of my opinion or of what I own, only that there are multiple daily sales pitch posts, AMD events and positive AMD stories every day.
 
masquap said:
Wait, so my bias is showing because I point out someone else's?

I made no indication of my opinion or of what I own, only that there are multiple daily sales pitch posts, AMD events and positive AMD stories every day.
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Perhaps because you are reading a technology blog you see these "press releases" and "opinions" from the creators, who happen to be rather forward and don't take bullshit from any company and/or bribes like you are implying. Why don't you send a PM to Steve and Kyle and tell them they're being bankrolled by AMD, if you have the balls. Back those rather pointed words with actions. I'm sure they'd entertain your petty insults with some fun the rest of us could enjoy.

Back to the discussion folks, sorry for the rant, but these trolls piss me off to no end. :/
 
JosiahBradley said:
Perhaps because you are reading a technology blog you see these "press releases" and "opinions" from the creators, who happen to be rather forward and don't take bullshit from any company and/or bribes like you are implying. Why don't you send a PM to Steve and Kyle and tell them they're being bankrolled by AMD, if you have the balls. Back those rather pointed words with actions. I'm sure they'd entertain your petty insults with some fun the rest of us could enjoy.

Back to the discussion folks, sorry for the rant, but these trolls piss me off to no end. :/
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So what you're saying is that HardOCP has no financial backing from any company, and that the owners should heckle and torment me for your amusement for indicating that I suspect if they do receive money they may be giving preferential treatment like almost any other website?

The last string of comments I read was the AMD vs Intel 'blind' test which seemed very much in favour of AMD despite any logical reason. When the results were questioned the fanboys came straight out with hostile responses (much like I'm copping here) and I saw no response regarding any concerns from HardOCP staff disputing any allegations
 
JosiahBradley said:
Perhaps because you are reading a technology blog you see these "press releases" and "opinions" from the creators, who happen to be rather forward and don't take bullshit from any company and/or bribes like you are implying. Why don't you send a PM to Steve and Kyle and tell them they're being bankrolled by AMD, if you have the balls. Back those rather pointed words with actions. I'm sure they'd entertain your petty insults with some fun the rest of us could enjoy.

Back to the discussion folks, sorry for the rant, but these trolls piss me off to no end. :/
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He's only been here 5 months, he hasn't seen the absolute beatings that [H] has levied against AMD the past few years in the reviews. Mostly good video card reviews, but the CPU and motherboard reviews have been brutal for the most part. [H] doesn't bullshit, they say it how it is. If AMD has a good product, [H] says so. If they have a shitty product, they don't hesitate to review it poorly. If AMD wants to do an event to showcase their products, [H] will help set it up, but it still doesn't influence their opinions on their products....Case in point, the AMD Eyefinity events: Phenom2 was shit, but the video cards were good. Eyefinity events didn't sway [H]'s opinion of Phenom2 or Bulldozer.

All he is basing his opinion on is the press releases that [H] posts that hit their email inbox which they post.
 
masquap said:
So what you're saying is that HardOCP has no financial backing from any company, and that the owners should heckle and torment me for your amusement for indicating that I suspect if they do receive money they may be giving preferential treatment like almost any other website?

The last string of comments I read was the AMD vs Intel 'blind' test which seemed very much in favour of AMD despite any logical reason. When the results were questioned the fanboys came straight out with hostile responses (much like I'm copping here) and I saw no response regarding any concerns from HardOCP staff disputing any allegations
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That is exactly what I am asking you to ask Kyle and Steve. I've been a long term reader and have read practically ever review in the past 6 years. From what I can deduce this site doesn't pick favorites and tells it like it is. If there seems to be a leaning towards one product or another it is generally due to a well educated opinion that said product is better at the time of review. It is their job as reviewers to determine what to recommend to its readers and that requires picking a winner or calling a tie etc.

If these guys are being backed by a company and favouring their products more because of this, it would not only be me shocked, but thousands of other readers. I trust this site and the reviews written here. So if you want the answer to these questions, you but need to ask the horse.
 
I would also be shocked if [H] was taking money from AMD. They're certainly not getting very much for their money after those Bulldozer reviews...
 
I've always liked AMD. I hope they come out with a more competitive CPU soon though because it's getting harder and harder to justify building a gaming PC around one of their CPU's (their GPUs are back to being a perfectly fine alternative to nVidia). They used to have the whole price/performance thing going for them, but when I can drive up to my local Microcenter and grab a 2500k for $179, I see no reason to even consider the AMD anymore.

I don't need them to pass Intel's performance; I just need them to close the gap a bit.
 
So what you're saying is that HardOCP has no financial backing from any company, and that the owners should heckle and torment me for your amusement for indicating that I suspect if they do receive money they may be giving preferential treatment like almost any other website?[/quote]
HardOCP is privately owned and AFAIK, they run off of Ad revenue from the main page and the forums. Their reviews aren't paid for. As for heckling you, Kyle tells it like it is in reviews and and to forum members. He has been known at times to heckle only those people who rightly deserve it. He hasn't replied to your accusations yet, but I'm sure we will all get a laugh if he does.

masquap said:
The last string of comments I read was the AMD vs Intel 'blind' test which seemed very much in favour of AMD despite any logical reason. When the results were questioned the fanboys came straight out with hostile responses (much like I'm copping here) and I saw no response regarding any concerns from HardOCP staff disputing any allegations
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And it was a news post relaying the info for forum members to discuss and debate. That is what a forum is for. It wasn't a statement of their [H]'s opinion. I have no idea how you misconstrued that. Forum member's and idiotic fanboy's do not equal HardOCP's viewpoints.
 
Steve said:
AMD was today named by Corporate Knights to its inaugural list of the S&P 500 Clean Capitalism Ranking, placing among the top twenty companies to be recognized. Corporate Knights, which defines “clean capitalism” as “responsible, resource-productive and socially just”, employs a transparent, quantitative methodology to compile its ranking, evaluating factors such as energy and carbon productivity, leadership diversity and employee turnover.
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So AMD gets bent out of shape over carbon emissions (imho a non-issue) and uses affirmative action in selecting their leadership?

No wonder they are falling behind Intel! I used to think of AMD as the cool tech company that was "clean" with respect to architecture coolness. Now I see they're tops in political correctness.

I now feel a bit better about having abandoned AMD (unwillingly at the time) on my latest build.
 
Oddly enough, I was not able to find this list on the Corporate Knights site.

It may interest you to know, however, that they named Intel in the top 20 most "sustainable" companies. :cool:
 
MavericK96 said:
Oddly enough, I was not able to find this list on the Corporate Knights site.
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I too would like to see this list. You would think that it would be right there on the CK page but I can't seem to find it either, weird :confused:. Lots of articles around the web pointing to their site but no list?
 
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