DNS Provision Pulled From SOPA

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Now this is a surprising bit of good news. Now, if we can just get them to pull everything else out (including their heads) we'd be doing great! :D

Rep. Chairman Lamar Smith, one of the biggest backers of the Stop Online Piracy Act, today said he plans to remove the Domain Name System or DNS-blocking provision. "After consultation with industry groups across the country," Smith said in a statement released by his office, "I feel we should remove DNS-blocking from the Stop Online Piracy Act so that the [U.S. House Judiciary] Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision.
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they took something out, but what did they put back in?

thats the real question...
pass sopa now, and add on later

its going to pass, brace yourselves.
 
TorxT3D said:
they took something out, but what did they put back in?

thats the real question...
pass sopa now, and add on later

its going to pass, brace yourselves.
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Sadly, that's what it looks like. It really doesn't matter how much they take out now, the important thing is whether or not it passes. Once it does, the loss for net neutrality will be irreversible. I don't really see anyway it could not pass since congress is pretty much ignoring everyone.
 
I doubt their offices are flooded with calls and emails supporting SOPA.

With all the negative attention and activism that SOPA has received, the fact that it's still on the table at all is highly indicative of a serious problem--calls and letters do nothing to sway your representative.

You know what they'd rather have than calls and emails? Cold, hard cash. Why bother making your constituents happy when you can just buy more constituents?
 
for got this part
As I prepare a managers' amendment to be considered during the floor debate, I will therefore propose that the positive and negative effects of this provision be studied before implemented...
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DNS blocking is easy to bypass anyway and they probably know that. Removing that little part isn't going to make the bill any better.
 
People just need to stop buying music from people who are members of the RIAA and stop watching movies which are made by people that back the MPAA. Watch independants or something, and unsigned artists. Then those orginizations will lose support from directors and artists who don't want the negative publicity, then those organizations shall dissapear. They only have power because people give it to them.
 
thewooster said:
Sadly, that's what it looks like. It really doesn't matter how much they take out now, the important thing is whether or not it passes. Once it does, the loss for net neutrality will be irreversible. I don't really see anyway it could not pass since congress is pretty much ignoring everyone.
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Everyone with fax machine should write up a fine letter and pull the old endless looped fax on them. :p
 
DeathPrincess said:
People just need to stop buying music from people who are members of the RIAA and stop watching movies which are made by people that back the MPAA. Watch independants or something, and unsigned artists. Then those orginizations will lose support from directors and artists who don't want the negative publicity, then those organizations shall dissapear. They only have power because people give it to them.
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Sad, but true. The problem now is getting people to do that.
 
The DNS part was actually a good thing because it can be worked around by having separate underground DNS servers. So when everyone uses those DNS typing www.site.com is not using the "official" servers but the "unofficial" ones, thus the site still loads.

They'll probably do IPs or physical servers instead. When they see a website they don't like, they'll just order the whole server to be shut down... heck, they'll just come and get it. I can easily see them show up at the data center in whatever country the server happens to be in to confiscate servers. In fact I could see them going to the extent of shutting down an entire data center and forcing the data center to locate and give the server away before it goes back online.

Sadly, no amount of letters or petitions are going to stop this. The government does not care about what the people want or don't want, it never has and never will. It's all about what can put more money in their pockets.
 
DeathPrincess said:
People just need to stop buying music from people who are members of the RIAA and stop watching movies which are made by people that back the MPAA. Watch independants or something, and unsigned artists. Then those orginizations will lose support from directors and artists who don't want the negative publicity, then those organizations shall dissapear. They only have power because people give it to them.
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Sadly this would be a tough one but think this should be the next step. We need to educate people on why they should not buy from these and have a list to make it easy to identify, then provide alternatives. Maybe a website could be dedicated to this. Basically a website dedicated to independent artists/movie makers. Though the government will probably just censor any efforts to do so.
 
fattypants said:
I doubt their offices are flooded with calls and emails supporting SOPA.

With all the negative attention and activism that SOPA has received, the fact that it's still on the table at all is highly indicative of a serious problem--calls and letters do nothing to sway your representative.

You know what they'd rather have than calls and emails? Cold, hard cash. Why bother making your constituents happy when you can just buy more constituents?
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If a person running for Congress spends more money than the person (s)he is running against, the person who spent more money wins the election 94% of the time.
 
XacTactX said:
If a person running for Congress spends more money than the person (s)he is running against, the person who spent more money wins the election 94% of the time.
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The person that is most popular should be able to raise more money than thier opponet. Therefore they should have more money to spend.
 
SOPA backers: "Look, we're reasonable people. We polished this turd in the spirit of compromise. Now the critics should fuck off since we threw them a bone".
 
Gungiddy said:
The person that is most popular should be able to raise more money than thier opponet. Therefore they should have more money to spend.
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Very naive view of the American election system. Typically the person with the most money can plaster his/her face everywhere more effectively, and basically "buy" an election with nothing more than name recognition (which is how most people tend to vote anyways). How do they get that kind of money? Typically from corporate and special interest contributors. Now they owe those people favors. The average Joe does not factor into the equation anymore.
 
LOCO LAPTOP said:
Sad, but true. The problem now is getting people to do that.
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Red Squirrel said:
Sadly this would be a tough one but think this should be the next step. We need to educate people on why they should not buy from these and have a list to make it easy to identify, then provide alternatives. Maybe a website could be dedicated to this. Basically a website dedicated to independent artists/movie makers. Though the government will probably just censor any efforts to do so.
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It needs to be as public as possible, but also as mainstream as possible. Bodies like the EFF are good and everything, but they are very...specialist. It wouldn't just have to focus on indie music/film but just people who don't support these people. The best part about it would be providing alternatives as people can't just be told not to do something!

Once it gets some kind of momentum and some people in the public eye join on, companies will view it as something popular to do, and will distance themselves from this corrupt organization. It would also be good to dump them, as they do nothing positive, but are constantly taking from content producers.
 
TorxT3D said:
they took something out, but what did they put back in?

thats the real question...
pass sopa now, and add on later

its going to pass, brace yourselves.
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Google and yahoo finally coughed up enough dough for them to take out this one provision. Now the game is on. They will be asking google to pay up more, while asking the media companies to pay up to keep the bill strong. It's a huge racket.
 
SOPA needs to be burned, not fixed. There's nothing wrong with the internet now, and it definitely doesn't need a bill that's supported through lobbying, which is only serving the interest of corporations.

Kill it with fire!
 
DeathPrincess said:
Then those orginizations will lose support from directors and artists who don't want the negative publicity, then those organizations shall dissapear. They only have power because people give it to them.
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It won't happen because of how distribution, promotion, financing and awards work. There is already a parallel distribution network in music and movies (indies), and it's comparably a ghetto vs the **AA system. Successes are few and far between, usually by someone well-known with a large fan base who decides from drop out from a RIAA label, often after benefitting from that system itself.

And more importantly, most people are not the hardcore geeks who care about this stuff. They merrily buy music from itunes, buy/rent movies, go to theaters, and pay for games and software.

Which brings to the last point: there's a big difference between consumers and pirates. Some people will never pay for anything and their opinion matters very little in these matters. There will always be justifications for stealing, as seen from the evolving reasons to not pay for something, while happily consuming media, games and services.

SOPA is a bad law for many reasons, but it's almost inevitable that pirates will face more "problems" in some (other?) future legislation.
 
Elios said:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...locking-provisions-merely-delaying-them.shtml

dont be fooled its still in the bill
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Yeah, his PR people are trying to make the press think it has been removed, but in reality what he actually said was he was going to 'have it studied before being implemented.' To me that phrase of wording CLEARLY says that no matter what the study says he still plans on it being implemented. If that wasn't the case his sentence would have been - 'have it studied to see if we should implement it.'
 
Ualdayan said:
Yeah, his PR people are trying to make the press think it has been removed, but in reality what he actually said was he was going to 'have it studied before being implemented.' To me that phrase of wording CLEARLY says that no matter what the study says he still plans on it being implemented. If that wasn't the case his sentence would have been - 'have it studied to see if we should implement it.'
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yup i read it as "will pretend to think about it for a year then turn it when every one has forgotten about it and no one is looking":rolleyes:

STEVE CHECK YOUR PMS!
 
Hornet said:
DNS blocking is easy to bypass anyway and they probably know that. Removing that little part isn't going to make the bill any better.
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Exactly. Look at the Piratebay , Dutch ISP has been ordered to block there DNS domain entirely yet there are very easy ways to still get to it if you happen to live in that country.

But the scary parts of the SOPA bill are still quite alive , passing it and fixing it later worked so well for the DMCA which is still a MASSIVE mess :rolleyes:

SOPA should die and hopefully it does , with all the out cry against it even from major corporations I don't think its odds of passing are so good anymore. If it passes then welcome to America , the third world censorship nanny state AKA Australia 2.0.
 
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