Leaked DOJ Document Reveals Scary Data Retention Policies

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Did you know AT&T keeps a list of everyone you've sent a text to for seven years? Verizon actually stores the entire contents of your text messages for 5 days? Not freaked out enough yet? You can read the entire article here. :eek:

The single-page Department of Justice document, “Retention Periods of Major Cellular Service Providers,” (.pdf) is a guide for law enforcement agencies looking to get information — like customer IP addresses, call logs, text messages and web surfing habits – out of U.S. telecom companies, including AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon. The document, marked “Law Enforcement Use Only” and dated August 2010, illustrates there are some significant differences in how long carriers retain your data.
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not suprised...the Homeland Security measures allows the un-warranted eavesdropping on cell-phones...they can open the mic on your phone, anytime & listen in on your private life, anytime they want to....=)
 
Further proof that privacy in the US is based on pure hipocracy.
 
The US Government monitors everything communication related, and has done so for decades. Data retention policies and warrants and all that are only relevant if they intend to prosecute you for something.
 
OC-Chronic said:
not suprised...the Homeland Security measures allows the un-warranted eavesdropping on cell-phones...they can open the mic on your phone, anytime & listen in on your private life, anytime they want to....=)
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No, it's a legal requirement in case of lawsuits.

This has been around since the dawn of the internet....frankly, I'm surprised people cruising this forum would not know this.
 
Cool, so lets see...five to seven years with AT&T, guess they have about 10~15 messages at the max on file for me then, tinfoil hat is now officially on. :rolleyes:
 
Hmm. Guess someone has a copy of that "private" picture I sent to my wife eh? Hope they enjoy it.;)
 
Monkey God said:
The US Government monitors everything communication related, and has done so for decades. Data retention policies and warrants and all that are only relevant if they intend to prosecute you for something.
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Huh?

Oh wait, you didn't read the article. Got it. (hint: this report details how long PRIVATE companies keep your and track your data)

How are people going to spin this article into bigbadguberment? If it wasn't for government, we still wouldn't know how long or what was tracked by these corporations.

But somehow government is the problem here? jfc
 
Dreaz said:
Huh?

Oh wait, you didn't read the article. Got it. (hint: this report details how long PRIVATE companies keep your and track your data)

How are people going to spin this article into bigbadguberment? If it wasn't for government, we still wouldn't know how long or what was tracked by these corporations.

But somehow government is the problem here? jfc
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Perhaps it's the decision of private companies, but for what purpose? So their CEO can have something to read on his commute home?

They're retaining data for legal reasons. If Uncle Sam ask AT&T and Verizon for proof that John Doe had been in communication with Jane bin Laden, they'd be able to dig around for it. That's one of a million possible scenarios, but it all comes down to when the judge writes that warrant, the phone companies had better be able to comply or face the wrath of said judge.
 
Dreaz said:
Huh?

Oh wait, you didn't read the article. Got it. (hint: this report details how long PRIVATE companies keep your and track your data)

How are people going to spin this article into bigbadguberment? If it wasn't for government, we still wouldn't know how long or what was tracked by these corporations.

But somehow government is the problem here? jfc
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You think these companies do this shit without say-so from the intelligence agencies? Please. My father worked at ATT his whole life (since retired) and the shit he has told me would make you realize privacy is an illusion, period. AT&T doesn't give a fuck about you texting your boyfriend from 7 years ago...they don't. The government tells them what to give a shit about.
 
what surprises me is that at&t and verizon aren't selling that info.... or are they?
 
All large corporations do this... in fact, our company just went from 7 years to a more strict 10 year retention plan.
IMO, it's a necessary evil.
 
JiveMofo said:
what surprises me is that at&t and verizon aren't selling that info.... or are they?
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This type of data are usually used for Trend Analysis... Verizon and AT&T "might not sell" the info, but I'm pretty they use it to gather more customers.
 
I expect to see a LOT more of these when the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 is signed.


I better, at least, cuz then maybe they'd realize sometime is terribly wrong. But this is unlikely me, being too hopeful.
 
I'm not shocked by the 5-day thing with VZW at all.

There have been a few times where I sent somebody a text message but they happened to have an issue with their phone or just been off the grid, so the receiving phones never received the messages. Verizon will actually send you a message saying something like "It's been five days and the recipient device did not pick up the message. Sorry."
 
i wonder if there are ATT employees that are so bored during work that they read these archived texts out of boredom. All the hot, juicy sexting
 
These companies use it for marketing/research purposes, there's no way they would hold on to this data voluntarily unless they were being paid for the storage.
 
Also, the data may be from a "leaked document" but that info is far from secret. To be able to comply, the retention regs had to have been posted in the Federal Register, which is open to anyone, and I'm sure anyone can track down the info on their regulator's pages as well.

Saying it came from a "leaked DOJ memo" sensationalizes this, like it's some classified data retention policy that they were hiding - while they may not have shouted it from the rooftops, that's far from the case.
 
You really shouldn't care unless you have something to hide.:rolleyes:
 
LeninGHOLA said:
If you don't have anything to hide, then show me your boobs (or wife's).
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Well, seeing as you worded it like that, I choose to show mine ( Hope you like a hairy chest). ;) Not sure if I should ask why I was included. :D


You really shouldn't care unless you have something to hide.:rolleyes:
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^^^^
Sarcasm bro....sarcasm.
 
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