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Nice review, but I highly doubt that there is an 8W difference in total power draw between the two fans on the two different 4870s. 8W is more on the order of the total power draw of each fan, so to put down the difference in power down to a difference in fan speed isn't really that good an...

I think it probably comes down to the fact that most people who drive Hummers are complete douchebags. I come to this conclusion through rigorous study of my large sample group of one person.

Grammar fail in the news post. Subject-verb agreement is good for you.

Kyle, post #40; fetch, boy! Also, unless I missed it, and I don't think I did, you never told me why you didn't use 2GB of RAM in the QX9770 system.

I'm disappointed that nobody has addressed my concerns about the scaling issues in FC2, yet. Post #40 if anyone cares to look.

Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing is results from more games that people actually play. You've got FC2 and Crysis in there, but how about L4D, CoD 4/World at War, Fallout 3; you could even hark back to the HL2 days. I guarantee there are more people still playing HL2 than there are people...

FEAR? CoD2? I can see your argument with the RTSs and games with large maps like Battlefield, but the other two?

Saying more RAM would slow down the Phenom-II is an interesting comment, actually. I'm not entirely up on IMCs anymore, but would that be because of the command rate, or what? Perhaps this is comething you could explore in a future article.

Such language from Kyle... sheesh.... Anyhow, doesn't it seem like the performance improvements gained by increasing the clockspeed by 17% on both the Phenom-II and the C2Q are a little small, especially considering the fact that you say that these systems are CPU-bound? If that's the case...

Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

A little behind the times, aren't we? The TDX has been out for what? Five years now? :D

Do you guys have any plans to revisit this now that DX10.1 support has been added?

No Core 216 or 4870 1GB? Boo, hiss.

Come on, this is Microsoft we're talking about here! You don't actually think they care about a little thing like "product failure rates", do you? =P On a serious side, who cares? The current 360 isn't exactly large by any means. Hell, I still use my original PS2, I don't have any need to...

I was off being one of the few people in this thread NOT brown nosing him.

Yikes... some people need to get with about a year and a half ago.

If this review is supposed to compare NVIDIA's new 260 to the Radeon 4870, why did you only compare the 4870 to what is probably going to amount to the most highly overclocked 260 you can buy? It doesn't make any sense, especially considering the fact that you evidently had the means to compare...

Some of the "highest playable settings" have changed from previous reviews. Has the change in drivers really made THAT much of a difference?

Wasn't this reported on [H] the same day the flaw was found, or is this a new story about some other flaw found the day the browser was launched?

The thing is that it's not a problem inherent in the chipset, it's a problem with power management and delivery (which is something handled entirely by the mobo manufacturer).

Actually, you've got that backwards. Other websites' results would have a chance during a defense whereas [H]'s wouldn't based purely on the fact that the results are only applicable to Kyle's experience, and nobody elses. It all depends on the structure of the driver. If one vendor has a...

I have no clue where you're getting the idea that I said anything about comparing a RAM upgrade to a CPU upgrade. Also, sure Lost Planet is a console port, but who cares? That has nothing to do with the fact that it scales well with more CPU cores.

Yes, you are missing something. I wasn't making a reference to relative performance between the two video cards (since that not waht the article is (supposed to be) about), I was comparing the difference between Kyle's roughly 18FPS number to Anandtech's 31FPS number. The comparison is...

Ok, Lost Planet, and that's just off the top of my head. Also, are you going to tell me that you're going to see absolutely NO increase in performance when doubling the amount of RAM in the system? If so, then you're going to need to turn over that forum title, because you have no idea what...

AbsintheCommando makes a good point, but there's something else [H] screwed up in this article. When comparing your results to Anandtech's numbers, you leave out one glaring inconsistency: You're running your benchmarks on an inferior system. Anandtech is running their rig with twice the RAM...

My rig could definitely use an upgrade! :D

Ok, first you state that the review is useful because it gives results using settings that someone with that card might actually use and then you also go on to give it props for giving results at insane resolutions that almost nobody uses. Anyone else see the discrepancy there? You're all...

Yet another ATI review that doesn't match any other results around the web. Don't you guys get tired of basically rewriting the same article over and over again?

They didn't get paid enough... or maybe they did, just by a competitor to OCZ....

Right, because one driver revision after the release of the card is going to be enough to make the assumption that no driver is ever going to help the card....

Yep, I did. I was under the assumption that POVRay was particularly responsive to changes in memory configuration. Guess I was wrong =/

Ok, less than 512MB of RAM available to each core (on average) in the AMD system vs 2GB of RAM available to each core in the V8 system while running a highly memory-intensive benchmark and Intel makes what kind of claim? Man, I wish morals applied in a capitalistic society. Oh well, AMD...

It's much better in action.

Wow, attacking my position instead of arguing facts, you should be a politician! I'm partial to ATI, I won't deny it, but that's because I've never had a bad experience with a piece of hardware from ATI and, conversely, I've never had a good experience with NVIDIA hardware. But seriously...

So, you show all of ONE setting with AA enabled and you come to the conclusion that ATI must be "on average" with AA enabled. I'm not too sure about this, but one test out of four (that's 25% for those math-savvy people) doesn't really constitute a sampling of tests that I would consider an...

This review has one major flaw: You're only using video cards from the manufacturer whose track record in Vista has been absolutely abysmal! Why not throw an ATI card or two into the review and see how they fare? I run an X1900XT and while I see slightly lower framerates in Vista, they're...

Well you can't say that the recent R520 review wasn't at least a little biased given all the ATI bashing that was done (not saying that some of it wasn't warranted considering the facts). I think there needs to be an article on this topic from a more reliable source than the inquirer , though...

I think everyone complaining about the cards not being available on the day they are announced needs to think about this phrase: production issues. They happen, deal with it. If ATi hadn't announced their new hardware when they did then the stock price would probably have fallen a great deal...

Just had a though: has anyone had any issues with using mobile chips in these boards? My previous setup worked with a regular desktop Barton, but this one doesn't seem to.

Ok, I'm sure everyone here is tired of trying to fix everyone's problems with LP board lately, but I'm at the end of my rope. I bought a refurbished board to replace my first one (which worked beautifully before my watercooling incedent) and it has a full warranty from DFI, but I don't really...