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They probably read the Oblivion guide like everyone else did. :D

They also had the same Intel and Asus 975X boards the other sites had for review. The same ones that would support a 7950GX2 also. The bigger question is why did they use a very immature P965 board for their testing? ;)

First off, it does not take days to run FRAPs demos and the amount of time it takes to run custom timedemos is just about the same. They are both one in the same during the playback session and only differ by the amount of data captured. You have FRAPs "benchmarks" that take seconds to run...

I am not complaining that they used synthetic benchmarks to test the motherboards. My only issue is the entire logic of their statements. In short, Real World benchmarks do not lie, Synthetic/Canned benchmarks do lie according to what has been stated. They use both so how do I know which one...

I was here on 11-14-2002, got banned (not really banned, deleted without notice) for telling the truth during the P4 3.06 launch issue, was not reinstated until 2004. It was about the money then also, only thing was the article was very Intel biased with certain performance numbers that were...

This is logic I am trying to understand. :D HardOCP uses canned (their words) benchmarks in the motherboard and system reviews. Why not use the "Real World" benchmarks in the motherboard or system reviews? The statements are made that other websites are "lying" to the user by using canned...

Sigh...... Steve, You (the site) uses canned benchmarks in the motherboard and system reviews. Why not use the "Real World" benchmarks in the motherboard or system reviews? The statements are made that other websites are lying to the user by using canned benchmarks and then [H] posts a...

Then why does Kyle rant and rave that everyone is a liar or cronie if they have a different opinion or conclusion about the product? :D Really, if the product is not reviewed then why is your opinion any better than mine? :confused:

The same logic applies about testing motheboards does it not? Why are we told one motherboard is faster than another with synthetic benchmarks but they do something completely opposite with the Core 2 Duo article. Why not run the same "real world" (more like fantasy world for most of us)...

You use synthetic benchmarks in your motherboard reviews. The same logic applies does it not? Why do you tell us one motherboard is faster than another with synthetic benchmarks but do something completely opposite with the Core 2 Duo article. Why not run the same "real world" (more like...

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTExMyw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== Because of actions like this. Where are the real world game benchmarks that were used in the Conroe Gaming article? Why is it that other sites are liars or Intel cronies for using Timedemos when the first AMD...

Besides the lies and cronies comments, here are my main issues - 1. Real World Gameplay by whose standards? How many people actually play a game at 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF with a single video card? If we take last years monitor sales, over 73% sold were 19" or under. Why not show...

The 7950 GX2 works fine on the Gigabyte 965 and Asus 975X boards. Anyway to test those quickly? While understanding the whole test routines at 1600x1200 Max, it was hard to understand the comments about real world performance. Around 73% of the market is on 19" screens or under, if you are...

I think asking a fair question about not having 975X or ATI results is not being disrespectful when other reviews today have them. Intel sent out the press kits at the same time to all sites, just a question because if this article was meant to truly define "real world" gaming experience then...

Interesting. :D

Finally, someone gets it right. :D

Their dates are still wrong by a day..... ;)

I bet we see Core 2 Duo early, like around the middle of July.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103948

Acer AL2416Wd - 24" , great monitor for the price and almost equal to the Samsung 244T.

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