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30% increase in what?

Looks about right for a Radeon on that map. Going from 6870 to 470 is night and day. Maybe someday they'll make something worth a shit. *flame suit engaged* Edit: did u run that with optimiztions on or off in driver panel?

Sounds like someone's missing out. Do you have any idea how many magazines iv replaced simply by posting from the crapper?

@ $150 this case becomes a much better option.

Understandable, my Stacker doubles as a foot stool.

Bah! I would, but 6870's gone. Could it really make up that much difference though? Care to post a graph?

If you're looking for a smaller case, you've got the new 650D as well as a Lian Li PC-9F and Fractal ARC MIDI to choose from. If all you need is cooling, grab a dremel...the 800D's a cavern.

I think that sample has to be one of the worst as I've seen others hitting 950/975 on stock volts and up to 1100 w/ more. That said, every 460 I've come across has had no problems moving from 675 past 850 and into 900's w/ voltage increases. 470's are the same, easily hitting 800 or more from...

It will be @ Newegg in April. The Corsair cases look very nice and have some great features. But when you have another option that's delivering similar product @ 100% less cost, it's tough to recommend one. The Lian Li PC-9F looks to be a solid offering as well, but it's $150.

I got mine up to 925 from 900 on stock volts. Juicing it didn't really help either.

Why not? Fractal ARC MIDI's $100 less and offers FAR better cooling and a smaller, lighter case.

Wooo, it's glad to be back on team green! New drivers kick up performance even more...

Oh my goodness... What a nice case in the ARC MIDI!! Look @ this comparison... Dimensions and Weight Stacker 810: 9"W x 23"D x 23"H - 34lbs Fractal ARC: 9"W x 20"D x 18"H - 22lbs Cooling Stacker 810: Intake: 3x 120mm Middle: 2x 120mm Exhaust 2x 120mm Fractal ARC: Intake: 2x 140mm Front...

That would be perfect. They only things I'd like to see would be an option for nice rubber wheels (like rollerblade things), a window that covers the entire side (not just a small portion), and maybe some very discreet handles. Also, $200 seems a bit steep.

This thing needs to be dropped in a hole, buried, and forgotten. Those of you who like this case also need to be dropped...j/k. :D

The best thing to come out of Antec has been the P180 series. The P183 is so close to perfect right now, but it's still lacking a few features. I'd like to see an option for wheels or hideaway handles. Maybe even an accessory LAN carrying strap pack-in. Edit: Also room for 3rd 140's in front...

You guys are hilarious.

I find the breakup in telephone lines, ladders, trees, and shadows extremely distracting. Does BC2 even support TSAA? I haven't tried MLAA yet...

BC2's the only thing I've really played on the 6870. I had been playing Alien Swarm on the 470, but its a disaster with 6870. I'm pleased with the heat output and its pretty snappy. But the inconsistencies of image quality between games and feature breaking have always driven me nuts. Yes...

The stutter is a feature of the card. Also known as the "Alert!"setting in CCC. It keeps you on your toes. Nvidias implementation is broken as it smooths out some of the choppy lines thereby causing one to feel calm and aesthetically pleased. This of course leads to napping while keyboarding, a...

Try it. For me it's just a massive performance hit. Which makes me wonder if the 470 just wasn't doing it? Looked really sharp, but there's not a whole lot of foilage in Swarm, lol. Cool, thanks. Which is why the GTX 560 can't come soon enough. Just that little bit more performance wo/ the...

Have you used both? I've only had the 6870 for a few days. Seems ok, but there's some noticeable flicker and AA breakup that I'm not used to seeing on the 470. I'd like 470 OC performance from a 560 OC. That would be golden.

470 clocked up to 800Mhz allowed for a higher framerate than 6870 @ 1000Mhz. In addition to that, 470 ran w/ HBAO on and 2x Supersampling Transparency AA, whereas 6870 could not do this and keep 60 minimum framerate. 470 almost blowed up my power supply. :(

What cards? The IQ difference between NV and AMD's huge in this game. If 6870, would you mind disabling xfire and running @ 8x MSAA w/ Supersampling set in CCC? That's unplayable for me on 6870, but 80~100 FPS constant with 460 OC or 470 stock. Although, I seem to have fixed the resume from...

Not just Nvidia w/ failing usage, lol. Alien swarm plays awful on this card. I can barely get by w/ 4x AA on 6870. 460 OC could do 32x SSAA. This card will choke down to 15 FPS if I enable supersampling. Textures look fuzzy in certain places too. I moved from ATI/AMD awhile ago due to...

Video of flickering. Good news! It's only that one section of the wall and a few sandbags. Be great if someone using an Nvidia card could confirm. I'm still getting much lower frames in that map compared to 460 OC and 470 stock though, routinely dipping in the 40's. Although, I don't see any...

I'm sure they could make it a classy foldover affair. Or maybe make it a few inches taller and have a little sliding door underneath w/ a handle and space for a mouse and cables.

Just give us a P184 w/ handles damnit!

$73 shipped for arrow makes me cry. :( I paid same for VX + 1 fan.

That's the On Screen Display from MSI Afterburner. Last night, I played Cold War awhile only to get those comparison numbers. However, every map in Vietnam plays faster than GTX 460 OC or GTX 470 Stock. It is slower than GTX 470 OC, but it's dumping FAR FAR FAR less heat into my room...

Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on. Played a couple Vietnam maps and it's looking more like 71 min, 93 avg. I haven't seen any weird texture problems either. Maybe I'll just avoid that map, lol. It seems to be running fairly cool and the fan's barely spinning. I remember reading that this card...

3DMark 11 says the 6870 should be neck and neck w/ the 470 stock and 460 OC. But the last couple hours w/ BC2 says otherwise. That's the best of five 5 minute fraps runs on Cold War. I tried playing, I tried staying away, I mixed it up. They were all the same. 70ish avg, 35ish min. To make...

Ok, so 13% of gamers on this forum use multi monitors.

Well, this i5 760/p55 setup puts out a lot less heat than the i7 930/x58 it replaced. I can only imagine how much less an i5 2500K/P67 will pump out. Especially if its paired up with a 6870. Nice little LAN setup that'd be!!

920, 930, 950...same thing. Sorry about ur eBay experiences.

Its a lame deal because u can find a 930 for less on eBay if u have to have a Bloomfield. Its a terrible deal because of SB. 2500k from those of us that have no use for HT, 2600k for those of us that do. Also, I've been clocking on cheap ass boards for years. SB needs even less board.

Yes, a major mistake for the 1% of gamers using 3 monitors.

Burrrrr...its freezing in here.