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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Why not just get the NEO G7? It doesnt have the aggressive AR film or scanlines and can still do 4K @ 165hz
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    I can tell you that 2560x1440 16:9 looks excellent upscaled to 4K with the monitor's upscaling. I have a mobile 3070ti and while it can do many games at 4K there are some I need to drop the res a bit. I use photoshop a decent amount too and even there the curve is not a big deal, EXCEPT when...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Is this a NEO G8-only issue? I have the NEO G7 and haven't experienced this, though it wasn't a launch monitor.
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    I use mine for productivity and have no issues. The only productivity scenario I could see being an issue is where geometric lines are very important (i.e. photography, architectural video, CAD, etc). For typical office work the curve becomes second nature in a couple of weeks.
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Decision is pretty simple, but your personal preference will decide - they are basically the same experience aside from the below (I did not include cosmetic differences in the list): NEO G8 + 240hz refresh rate + Best in class glare/reflection elimination performance - Scanlines at 240hz, need...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    You need to use the HDR calibration tool to get the HDR colors and brightness correct on the Neo G7/G8 in Windows. I have my Neo G7 calibrated and am not experiencing those issues: https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9N7F2SM5D1LR Once it is setup properly, the HDR is excellent.
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    UPDATE on my NEO G7 First, the new Windows 11 HDR Calibration tool available in the Microsoft Store massively improved the HDR performance in Windows. Before a lot of stuff was blown out, now it looks great - before it looked great with XBOX Series X but not as great in Windows 11. Now it...
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    Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34″ QD-OLED 175Hz (3440 x 1440)

    The only area that mini LED isn't as good is pure response time, but even there the latest Samsung monitors are definitely pretty great even if not quite as good as OLED. If 3D still was popular that would be a key area OLED works significantly better for the same reason, but it's not. Black...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    I didn't measure them but they seemed in the ballpark of each other with content. Just looking at the desktop the neo G9 & neo G7 I have to use at a low brightness setting because maxed out both are very bright. The difference is the windows HDR algorithm seems like it needs work on the neo...
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    LG 48CX

    I had a 43" 16:9 and felt it was too vertically tall for desk even pushed all the way back to the wall on my fairly large desk. For 16:9 display I think 32" is about as large as I would go, or 38" for 21:9. Really not sure how people use these massive displays on desk without discomfort
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    Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34″ QD-OLED 175Hz (3440 x 1440)

    There is none, you either have to go with 32" 16:9 which is taller but less wide, or 49" 32:9 which is the same height but wider. I personally find 34" 21:9 a bit too vertically short and prefer either 32" 16:9 or 38" 21:9. There is no 38" 21:9 that is great though. So if you are set on 34"...
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    Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34″ QD-OLED 175Hz (3440 x 1440)

    Just means burn in will take a little longer to happen. But it will still happen, especially with something like PC use case. Mini LED is a much better technology for PC use. OLED should remain left to home theater enthusiasts, tho even there the latest Mini LED tech is hanging with it just fine.
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Samsung considers their neo g8/g9 coating a premium feature. My guess is someone at samsung decided the extra anti glare would improve black level perception with light sources (whether natural, RGB, etc) and this is true. But the downside is it looks a bit muted, but I assume Samsung figures...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    I don't have the Neo G9 anymore, I returned it and kept the Neo g7. Both were pretty similar with HDR though there is a windows driver/firmware bug with the neo g7 that seems to be holding back it's HDR performance. I have to mess around more with gamma to see if I can fix. But neo g7 hardware...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    The thing is that it doesn't appear to be the hardware on the neo g7/neo g8. If you plug an Xbox into it the HDR looks outstanding. There is just something going on with the windows implementation that is not right. Should be fixable in firmware or drivers.
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    I have the neo g7 and had the neo g9 (which uses neo G8 coating) and I noticed my keyboard RGB reflection on neo g7 monitor but not on neo g9, especially when it was dim. With how popular RGB is and emphasis on black levels at the monitor top end, it makes sense for this type of segmentation...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    It sounds like your neo g7 is defective. There is very little difference vs neo g8 in real world content, neo g8 maybe 5% brighter. There is a windows driver issue for both currently, but both look spectacular with PS5/Xbox Here is a side by side comparison of the two with console source
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    It's some windows driver issue Neo g7/g8 HDR looks amazing with Xbox/ ps5, one of best HDR monitor experiences available on market
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    Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34″ QD-OLED 175Hz (3440 x 1440)

    That's just marketing. QD is about color gamut. Every new generation of OLED tech , LG is like "OLED is fixed!" and it never is , just improved some. The core weaknesses of OLED remain, just improved. This is one of main reasons I think Mini LED is the overall superior tech. Most of the core...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Yeah but if u think about it the 240hz and aggressive coating kind of make sense together while the 165hz and less aggressive coating also make sense together. 240hz I can see being used by someone who has the absolute fastest video card at all times, computer fully blinged out in RGB. 165hz is...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Bottom line specs matter for many, and scanlines are the current tradeoff for 4k 240hz which no other manuf offers. I went with the neo g7 myself because I prefer fidelity over speed & 165hz is enough. The coating on it is similar to my old Alienware IPS by the way. My guess is they went with...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    I had a 43-in 16:9 for a while and I felt it was simply too big vertically even on a deep desk. Felt 49" 32:9 was too big horizontally. IMO sweet spot is 32" 16:9 or 38" 21:9. Given the monitors out now IMO the Neo G7 is the one to get. My uniformity isn't 100% perfect but good enough given...
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    Odyssey Neo G8 - 4K 240 Hz 32" Quantum Mini LED

    Just got the SAMSUNG NEO G7, figured I'd post here since there isn't a Neo G7 thread active that I see. Few thoughts: 1. Overall looks amazing, extremely satisfied! 2. No major QC issues - no dead pixels, no scanlines, no flickering, etc - 165hz looks great! 3. The anti glare coating is...
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    RTX 3xxx performance speculation

    I think they will justify the $1k price point by adding SLI capability for the below most typical use cases So it would scale like this: $699 = 3080 10gb gaming only $999 = 3080 20gb gaming + productivity $1499 = 3090 24gb gaming + productivity $1999 = 3080 20gb SLI productivity only $2999 =...
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    Best bang for the buck Budget video card?

    Hercules Dynamite 128 😉
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    RTX 3xxx performance speculation

    Unless AMD blows nvidia out of the water (doubtful) I'm going to guess the majority of available 20GB cards will be more like $949-$999 IMO at that price a 3090 under $1600 is a better deal b/c its extra cores will impact speed a lot more than RAM will. Or a 3080 under $800. Looking at the...
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    RTX 3xxx performance speculation

    I think you can also make a good argument for the MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio. Similar performance to the TUF when fans are same speed, stock bios quiet fans, only like $50 more than FE, looks nice (better than TUF imo) with decent RGB built-in, bit faster in speed than FE. Some other nice 3090...
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    Might be as simple as Intel was on top so long they got that invincible feeling and thought they would overcome any challenge, all bumps in experimental process would be worked out with ease - but reality proved otherwise.
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    Sorry my friend but I will have to wager Cybertruck runs on ARM ;)
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    I think it's a little more complex than that. If you're suggesting that amd's technology will translate to them being in better financial shape than Intel, the financial professionals disagree with you...
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    This would be a good observation if Intel hadn't stomped AMD 90% of the time over the past 3 decades. You are in the 10% right now.
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    You are missing the point. IPC increase does not mean that the process will be an overall performance boost. Intel had a 20% IPC increase with Icelake but could not clock it high enough to beat lower IPC Skylake so they stuck with lower IPC 14nm at higher clocks. Hence IPC by itself doesn't...
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    Ok... https://www.techpowerup.com/256596/intel-ice-lake-ipc-best-case-a-massive-40-uplift-over-skylake-18-on-average Doesn't mean overall performance will necessarily be better, as again intel 10nm proves
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    Has AMD passed Intel or just pulled even or still slightly behind

    So it boils down to heat and clocks, and also the fact 3950x is not a full fledged HEDT processor unlike 10980xe which is HEDT (and hence why 3950x is not designated a Threadripper) Intel coffee lake R clocks are not a concern as even all 8 cores at 5ghz heat is manageable But for HEDT its not...
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    Intel Core i9 Cascade Lake-X thread

    I guess what I am wondering is who the market for the 3950x is at $750. You would think a content creator would want the expansion capabilities HEDT brings (multiple NVMe drives, TB pcie card, pcie sound card, storage pcie cards, etc, all with no bottlenecks), and for a gamer the extra cores of...
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    Intel Core i9 Cascade Lake-X thread

    If you need the pcie lanes of a typical HEDT user the mainstream 3950x and it's 24 CPU lanes is not a viable option . That is one of the major reasons amd doesn't classify the 3950x as a Threadripper, it's only got mainstream Ryzen features. 10980xe on the other hand has 48 CPU PCIe lanes...
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    Intel Core i9 Cascade Lake-X thread

    Perhaps you spit out your coffee but this is the best Intel HEDT CPU pricing since 2015. HEDT not designed for strictly gamers, that's the mainstream line. Intel 9900KS and 9900K/KF are the fastest gaming processors available from anyone currently and cost $470-$525+ depending on model. Even...
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    Intel improved performance and lowered power on 14nm. That doesnt mean they did the same on 10nm. Same could happen for AMD 7nm to 5nm, might get improved power but not performance. We will have to see how it shakes out.
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    Yeah intel 10nm proves that smaller process doesn't always translate to better performance - and that could happen for AMD, too.
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    Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

    I have to wonder how HEDT will be affected For those on a budget that want the pcie lanes flexibility of HEDT with a processor that doesn't suck at games/light stuff and is also good at multicore, the new 10940X actually looks like a pretty good value... But will late 2020 HEDT have cove...
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