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Get now whichever available and closer to MSRP and later/when possible the other. If equaly available on MSRP, I'd go for the GPU.

Since nVidia tried and suceeded in controlling AIB's line of product renaming to make nVidia's GPU sound and look more premium compared to AMD ones, nothing can surprise me anymore. They are pure evil. This is compared to what Intel did with bribing retailers and OEMs when AMD surpassed them...

I would get the 5600X if I had a high-end GPU or planned to buy one in next 1-2 years. If not, 3800X will be great CPU for years.

My 5700 Pulse works well with 20.1.3. Early 2020 edition drivers had some instabilities but now it is rock solid.

2700X if you are to use all of its 16 threads, or else 3600 for the same money. Next best thing is 3700X imho as 3600X is a bit of non-product. Very little to offer for $50 more. 3800X exists to allow AMD to beat 9900K is most apps or else it shouldn't exist either.

Me thinks that all RX5X00 series are dedicated to Navi

Re-playing good games isn't something rare, don't you think? And you can replay a great game any time if you don't have to install it again if it is 60-100GB large eh? After all, new drives with bog cache size don't cause problems in gaming. Just a few secs more to load it at first.

For big games of 60-100GB of size, I will still need at least a 3-4TB to be ready for the next few years. Not willing to uninstall great games for newer ones every few months. So, yes!

Just 2 models of 24C and 32C for TR4 would be enough for this platform and whoever need more should go for an EPYC server imho.

Mine is a Zalman Z550 that is in my PC for more than 7 years now

DDR5 for desktop not until 2021 imho. Zen3 will be either DDR4 only or hybrid. My 5 cents.

At least a model using Zen2 cores-chiplets for TR4 will be offered later this year or early in 2020. Most possibly a 32 cores highly clocked. My 5 cents.

Zen4 might be a stacked arch I guess? 2022 and on 5nm maybe?

By saying this, you think also that any PC, server that has a non-fixable problem related to security should stop running on any network too? Intel CPUs have some of those unfixable problems (a new one is discovered every few months) and are used in most rervers worldwide.

7nm Rome chips cannot arrive soon enough for servers, cloud and data centers. Tables are turning hyper fast now...

The 1700+ was one of my old CPUs ;) Great CPU back then! :happy:

Ryzen power profile is needed for windows 7 or 10 if I remember correctly in order to allow it to idle in the lower state possible when not pushed.

Historical/mythical odyssey kept 10 years without the 10 more of the Trojan war. Not willing to wait or endure that for a gpu. Bad marketing move imho. Only fanboys can fall for this.

My guess is that AMD Zen2 will offer minimum 6C desktop CPUs as the 8C chiplets will have great yields and will be a waste of silicon to get them down to just 4 active cores. And thus, AMD will force the CPU market to lower price per core again after the 1st gen Zen. So, the 6C Zen2 will suceed...

The Trilogy of this universe was great indeed. Even the ending of the last of the 3 was pretty nice to me. Let's see what they can do in the future to make up for the Andromeda flop. They will try much harder for sure now that they know that critics are harsh when the fail to connect the player...

For anyone who wants to see if Radeon 7 is an overclocker under better than stock cooling:

So, Microsoft is the one that holds up the progress in CPU tech and Linux helps the advance. Who would believe it?

Probalby an APU for some console outside of Sony, MS ones. They need 4K and a lit Navi cannot offer that. Nintendo maybe?

Nice Q&A there! Thanks Kyle! So, he indirectly confirms that Vega7 is an one-off Halo product to allow big Navi to be made properly to battle for the performance crown vs nVidia and small Navi is on track to take the place of Polaris in price and Vega56/64 in performance. A very sensible...

We know for sure from the demo AMD showed in CES that the non-X Ryzen with a 70W cpu is equal for multithreading apps with the best Intel has with a 130W cpu. And by that we can safely assume that there will come an X model of this CPU with at least 10-15% higher frequency that will win the i9...

Just by shrinking a Vega 56 to 7nm and changing the memory to DDR6, you can have a winner over 1070 with 150-160W. So, if Navi arch is designed mostly for gaming instead of the Vega's all-round arch, we could easily see a 1080 lvl of performance from a 160W Navi GPU. And Vega2 could reach 2080...

For the sake of us OC hardware customers and the market competition that helps progress (Ryzen made it possible again), we should hope that 7nm will help AMD get at least equal to Intel's IPC and clocks on the cpu front and small Navi will be ready in 1H/2019 with great pricing.

Merry Christmas to all!

All good here after a clean install. Quick install above the previous driver wasn't succesful (black screen) though.

As most of the previous post imply, IPC+clock difference between AMD and Intel is ~20% for single core usage. For games that utilise more than 3-4 threads the difference is mainly due to clockspeed differences, as the AMD's SMT is more efficient to Intel's HT and thus, it neutralises the IPC...

A nice info from this video about Navi GPUs. Those new info are on line with what we already knew from rumours months ago. Small Navi is coming in Q2/2019 and it is taking the Polari's place in price and the Vega's place in performance. Big Navi will batle with nVidia high-end in late 2019.

An 8-core cpu made at 7nm at Ryzen 7 2700 clocks without HT will have a TDP of just 30-40W. A GPU made for PS5 (Navi arch) will have a 100-120TDP and have at least Vega 56 performance (40-50% over the one existing in PS4pro). And this combo will be easily capable of 60FPS at 4K with a few tweaks...

When having proper RAM timings with 2 sticks installed, Ryzen will be closer than 10% to 9900K. Not worth to get the latter for almost double the money. Especially when Ryzen platform is future proof with Zen 2 cpus incoming in 2019 that will get very close or even above Intel offerings in all...

And here is why Intel has problems supplying cheap cpus. They turned their production into making as many mega-cpus as possible to bettle threadripper-epyc infinity fabric brilliance.

An expected 25% increase in performance for higher TDP and much higher prices. No progress for the GPU market and lower vfm for us customers. Bad gen in general. Let's see what the 7nm will bring us in 2019.

So, as many predicted, for custom to custom GPUs the new Turing gen will be 25% faster than the previous Pascal gen GPUs. As all know, the Turing GPUs being tested are pre-oced while the old Pascal ones are reference ones that due to thermal limiting they lose frequency after 3mins of gaming and...

Mantle maybe? The base of DX12 and Vulkan in other words...

Mass Effect 3 finished yesterday for me. To sum up, a great game to close the trilogy. The end without being action heavy, it was great in letting you choose between 2 big changes for the galaxy and you as Shepard. Personally, I enjoyed it as much as the previous ones. Graphics well made for...

AMD will need many cpus to be produced in GF at 12nm until 7nm is expanded for all of their products (late 2019 at the earliest). So, it isn't too difficult to make that new agreement work imho.

https://wccftech.com/vulkan-radeon-mgpu-performance-in-strange-brigade-tested/