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Until I see them for $800 or less, I can't really justify it, mostly on principle, I still think that's the price they should have been to begin with. The reason I've waited this long to upgrade (and the reason I bought a second 1080ti, even after the 30 series release) is because of the pricing...

Haha, still 4070 super or ti super looks better for me, but it's an interesting release, makes me wonder if we're not going to see another iteration of the XTX as well, either way, I think I'll wait a few weeks to see what shakes up with pricing.

RX 7900 GRE just threw a wrench at this discussion, thoughts?

I'm sure you're right about DLSS, and I probably should have been a little more specific, it's mostly RT that I don't give a shit about, I know it's going to continue to become more prevalent in the future, and I know it gives some people a grand "tingle in their dingle" :dead: but while I find...

In thinking more about it, lets assume I don't have the 320w peak power limitation, still want best performance per watt, and still have a roughly $800 budget, but am fine with buying second hand, would you guys still choose the 4070 super? I've decided there's no reason for me to even bother...

Yeah I definitely am looking at matx/itx down the road, at the moment I've got a little money coming so I'm trying to knock the big expense, i.e. gpu upgrade out first, use it with the current older, but still reasonably capable MB/cpu, I expect to be cpu bound with the newer card for a bit...

I have a laptop, have 5 or 6, and it's what I use for non-gaming junk like replying here atm, but afaik with the exception of the few "laptops" that put full power GPUs in them, they don't offer the gaming performance I want. I have looked at SFF's with eGPUs but that's a whole bag of worms...

I have a good traditional PSU, 1000W platinum rated, *but* the issue is that I'd have to run it off the inverter, and I'm determined not too; the traditional switchmode PSUs we use, btw, have a maximum efficiency at a very specific wattage that isn't their peak wattage, nor is it consistent...

No the spike issue is a very valid concern, that I hadn't (but should have) considered, just hadn't seen any mention of it or numbers out there, thank you for mentioning it!

BTW, I don't have any delusions about 4k Ultra, I'm just using it as a loose metric (4k ultra at 60fps fwiw), to shoot for, since most of the gpu heirarchy charts out there use aggregate averages to differentiate models anyway. That said, I've been rocking a 1080ti since release (well, on my...

Appreciate all the replies guys, lots of food for thought. Funnily enough I had just about convinced myself to spend money on the 4070ti super, after looking at the average wattage consumption vs FPS on the current Tom's GPU recommendation article. Although, since I'm not that concerned with...

So we've had some abstract convos about this in the past, but I'm ready for a GPU upgrade (1080ti) finallly, and I'm hoping for either affirmation of my conclussion, or some input on an alternative if I'm missing something. Before I mention the conclussion I've come to; some backstory for...

Sorry for the semi thread hijack/derail OP. I will however happily buy this machine, if you, or anyone else can find me a thunderbolt flex io module that works in it, for a reasonable ($50ish) price somewhere legit. I haven't tried HP directly yet, but a cursory search of their site returned...

Yes, this is the part for sure, I just can't actually find one in stock. Is that showing in stock for you? Site shows status "unknown" when I hit the "check stock" button, which I assume means no stock.

wait so you're saying I can swap in a thunderbolt port module? edit: ok, I'm a bit mind-blown by this revelation, as it appears you *can* swap those optional modules, though the datasheet I read didn't remotely make that clear to me, big thanks bigddybn for chiming in, I'd have *never* guessed...

If I'm reading the (atrocious) HP spec webpage for this machine, having VGA precludes it from having a thunderbolt port? Seems like it could have one optional port of a few options, either: Optional port 1 (any one) (1) Thunderbolt port (1) Serial (RS-232) (1) USB 3.2 Gen 210 Gbps...

Word, I just thought maybe you had some specific insight about a testing methodology I wasn't aware of. Personally I'm giving EVGA a little more "gut feeling" credit than that, but it's not wrong to be skeptical. Watching their pricing day after day out of curiosity mostly, it's been extremely...

I mean they were offering 3090 skus at even higher discount percentages relative to MSRP a few days ago. What method of determining "damage"/wear do you believe they have to assign a metric to such? They are offering a year warranty, and it is EVGA, if the card doesn't remotely meet spec, I...

Any applicable codes to newly regged accounts there? Really wanting to get that 3090 but the like $60 in tax is pushing me from "you'd be crazy to buy this right now" into "you'd be totally fucking insane to buy this right now", I know it doesn't sound like a lot in the scheme of things, it's...

You and me both bro. Good memories though. People that aren't from the south don't realize how much of a rich history there is, and how much all the rest of the country's success has been predicated on. If you're curious about the ol codger, checkout his bio from one of his books on Amazon...

Haha well, pro tip, whiskey helps. Yeah Ghost Town is forever in a state of being for sale, and promises of being reopened. It was an incredible experience as a child though. For those that haven't read the wikipedia entry, it was basically a Wild West themed amusement park on the top of a...

P.S. definitely not my keyboard in the background of that last photo (from customer), I'm a zelotously religious believer and user of split keyboards. Just wish you could get a craptop with one, although I think I recall a vintage model that actually had a built in split kbd that sort of lifted...

Honestly it's not ringing any bells personally, however, it does remind me of a crowd some other makers in the area interact with, Shelby or Charlie maybe, we are a pretty close crowd, especially those of us involved in the ABS (American Bladesmith Society), which I am. The friend I mentioned...

If for any reason einz didn't take this, let me know, I will. Getting ready to ditch cell phone entirely, except for something to keep in the truck's glovebox in case of emergency or needing gps, this seems perfect for that.

Yeah, what other company would even offer this? Any one else would either a) swear they'll cover them for a year or two until they then put out a press release saying they no longer can, but offer you a 10% discount as an apology on a direct purchase of something they currently sell, or b) just...

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression, that even PSU efficiency certifications only stand at certain loads? Off the top of my head I want to say I remember reading something like 50% of total power? So a 90+ Gold/Platinum PSU will be X efficient at that specific...

I'm pretty sure that's the point. When you're filthy rich and smug as fuck, you do shit just because you can, especially when you're a class A prick who think he has everyone fooled, to boot. I mean just look at that grin. All speculation on my part, but I'd bet a nickel I'm pretty close to...

Me for one. GPU power cables are notoriously in the way of everything no matter what you do, due to their location in a system. Any change in hardware almost guarantees unplugging them just for sanity but also to not risk physically jostling the heavy ass modern GPUs the PCIE slots can barely...

It definitely is for me. I'm still rocking a 1080ti, the 20 series didn't have enough performance uptick to justify an upgrade for me, considering demand/prices, with the tiny exception of pre-30 series announcement sell-off which I missed. 30 series prices were outrageous so I held off. I'm...

Wow 12-57V DC input, I presume that's to meet wide ranging PoE specs but that's hella nice to see it on a barrel jack input, for those of us who live off-grid and power everything direct DC as much as possible. Nice suggestion, thanks!

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I'm glad you've had a good experience with them. I did for years until I got an Armor OC 1080ti from them. Of course these got released during one of the first mining crazes, I thought I got lucky scoring one when I just happened to have money for it. There were zero reviews, but MSI had a good...

MSI is and will forever remain, exclusively, a *BAD* "choice". Never have I regretted anything more than MSI gpus. I honestly don't know how they remain in business when they keep releasing cards with major problems every generation and then gaslighting or even wholesale deleteing any threads...

Ok so this got me curious, apparently these guys are still manufacturing MBs with ISA slots for use with legacy hardware. It's not as uncommon as you may think. https://nixsys.com/blog/isa-slot-computers/motherboards-with-isa-slot Makes sense frankly, imagine how many scientific and industrial...

I believe you are correct. I remember we were still repairing machines that had them quite commonly, my first job at a local PC repair shop when I was 15 in the mid-90s. I wanna say most 486, 586, and some x686, but yeah, I'm gonna blame the brain fog of that era on a healthy enthusiasm for...

Good ol EMC.. I fondly remember the days I worked in tech designing server clusters for ecoms and similar, and having EMC court me for multi-million dollar storage arrays.. They'd basically give me anything I asked for, unfortunately I was young and didn't have the foresight to inquire about...

I'm interested in the 24p GbE switches, as in I want at least the two I see, probably all, only see two in the photo though? Any of these PoE? Shipping will be the only caveat with these, so let me know what that looks like. Gonna PM you, but if you want to make me a deal on all the network...

Anybody that's ever used a stereo binocular/microscope I'm sure will be more than in enthusiastic agreement. The difference between having a great crisp image with decent DoF or having a permanent migraine with vertigo is a tiny fraction of a focus turn away. I *highly* suspect, independently...

Look very interesting to me, although I've been interested in this type of thing since I saw some el-shitmode versions of these like 20 years ago, flickery, low res, truely craptastic, but just something that can give you a high quality large format private screen for media is always something I...

Yanno, you'd probably be surprised how nice my lifestyle can be. I don't have much shortage of electricity for the most part. Even have an AC that'll run me out of here in the summer (mini-split for the win), and no matter where I live, I always want to heat with wood in the winter. That said I...