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Any word on if the 3090 will break motherboards in half? That thing hanging off sideways does not look too appealing...

Thank you so much for this incredibly informative post. In regards to a mobo choice, do brands essentially stay true as far as user-friendlyness and reliability on both fronts? I guess what I'm trying to ask is would a Asus ROG board provide the same perks (ease of use and low wattage...

Updated the op. Have no budget limit for this build but also am not looking for crazy prices. Looking to future proof for a couple years so definitely going pcie 4.0 or I'd go with the 10900k. Definitely going to be waiting for zen3 and some rumors say it might even be this month so I guess we...

I have not done an amd cpu ever in my life and am incredibly weary on giving this a go as I usually build one rig a decade. Though given intel's recent failures and the new gpus essentially requiring pcie 4.0 to run at full, I'm left with no choice. So I'm giving into the hype and going AMD...

And with Zen3 just about to release what is intel going to do to recover? I'm thinking of scrapping all my plans and just going amd at this point. Personally have never delved into anything amd cpu-wise because back in the day that was essentially a waste of money. Even now with all the good...

Not to revive an aged thread but now with the new gpus announced and all are aiming for pcie 4.0, what exactly should one do if aiming for Intel? Are we just left out?

Pretty much this. I'll wait until September to see what the gpu situation is going to be like and keep an eye on the whole refresh situation but it's definitely looking like I'll be going Asus. Just to clarify though. You think I should go with Asus over Evga in terms of reliability and ease of...

Yeah I feel like I'm nitpicking at this point. Trying to minimize heat output as I ignored that the last time and without air on the computer room turns into a furnace, that's why I've decided to write off Gigabyte, but yeah.. Of the 3, MSI, Asus or Evga which would you personally go with if say...

Thank you so much for that clarification. Yeah I really don't see myself in particular noticing those slowdowns. It's all for leisure and nothing too incredibly demanding. I think my ignorance played a role in my vagueness if I am being 100% honest. This is why I have always resorted to this...

Are these refreshes routine. Any idea on when possibly? Now this I did not know. Had no idea that I'd lose some speed if I were to use more than 1 nvme drive. Initially I was going to start off with one as the boot and storage drive, but soon after add a second. How would that effect the speed...

Never saw page 2. The more I think about it you're right. I have a gigabyte board in my current 10 year old build and their "future proofing" in the way of being ssd ready is god awful. The sata 6 ports don't work as intended at all. Okay so forget gigabyte. How does MSI stand up to Evga and...

Thank you, I believe at this point I'm just going to either have to learn how to decrease the default voltage on the gigabyte board or go with the asus or evga. The evga's warranty and name alone demands respect, and judging by what I see from how it's dealing with voltage heat to the cpu makes...

I apologize for the late response. I suppose just future proofing. That if it's at the cost of insane voltage settings by default, stuff I am not comfortable messing with, then I can't justify one over the other.

All the boards have what I need essentially with only the aorus being possibly futureproof.

So what I've gathered is the Evga Dark is king. The Aorus may be able to utilize next gen intel chips, but lacks the UI usability and baseline volt stuff of Asus. Asus also is top-notch as far as UI goes according to you guys. Meanwhile the Z490 Meg Ace is also a top pick. I know I am...

I'm not tech savvy enough to attempt that. I wish I were because the aorus board, aesthetically looks much more appealing. Much appreciated So this means the aorus master will support the new cpus...? Building a pc was a lot simpler 10 years ago.

Yeah definitely looking like I'll be going with the Hero given the idle temps of the cpu on the aorus. That and the ease of use in the Asus ui make it all the more alluring. Kind of the wrong board to ask but have any suggestions on liquid cpu coolers?

Ah, I see. Thank you for the clarification.

What about nvme drives. Would that work on said mobo?

Thanks you guys. This has completely thrown my planning out of wack. The difference between those boards base thermals is insanity. To the point that I am now almost all in on the asus rog maximus xii hero as the extreme at $1000+ is a bit, well, extreme.. However the only thing that is keeping...

Awesome, just got finished watching that on it. The only thing confusing me atm is the ram "daisy chain" stuff. If I were to go with it I wouldn't know where I'd place the 2 sticks or how 2x 16gb would be affected.

Much appreciated, I'll give them a look over now.

That much I know but beyond the customer service and ease of over clocking, would I be missing out on anything? Tbh the money to build a pc isn't so readily available for me so I doubt I will be overclocking much if at all to maintain longevity of the parts. Though I might dabble a bit in it...

My current setup is 11+ years old. Still using 1st gen i7. Looking to future proof. Perhaps Im a bit oblivious but I cant seem to find the ftw version. Any chance you could link me a source. And I guess again what would make the EVGA specifically better in this case? (I had thought I posted this...

The price is a bit above my budget. Really like the overall look of the maximus though, but that price.. Do they both support 10th generation intel cpus and pcie 4.0? And beyond that am I really missing out on anything in terms of quality or features with the gb aorus master?

I am open to any and all suggestions.

Looking for suggestions on a good mobo. I'm being told that the GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS Master is the way to go but I've had my eye on the Asus Rog lineup for years now. What do you guys think? The build I'm working on getting: ram - 32GB G.Skill DDR4 TridentZ RGB 3200Mhz ssd - Samsung 970 EVO Plus...

Keljian About a decade ago is when I was able to finally put some money away to build my first rig. It's the same computer I still use today. As far as financials go I haven't ever been all that successful so to me it was a huge milestone. Got all the bells and whistles and somehow it still...

Keljian Fair enough, I really wish big retailers like bestbuy carried quality monitors. I understand they can't have every choice out there but it almost feels as if they reach for the bottom of the barrel all the while having TVs that cost 13k up for display in store.. A little strange...

Keljian Ah, my bad. Was having a hard time finding it on google. Thank you. Since I got you here do you have any opinion on these...

Keljian Dan_D Hate to ask anything further of you guys, but could you suggest/link specific monitors? Even with all this information I feel like a fish out of water as I've been using a 59hz samsung monitor that doesn't even fully support hdmi for the last 10 years. The pricing on monitors can...

Keljian I like you, friend. Thank you. I was thinking of spending the money on my first 4k tv but that list and the idea of being able to build a computer again... Brought a huge smile to my face. Any suggestion on a monitor? I've spent countless hours studying them and the prices get insane.

Sorry to necro this thread but I have an update of sorts. The primary if not sole purpose of this build will be to game. 4k and vr gaming. The budget is 4k (CAD). Any updated recommendations or heads up about new releases around the corner would be appreciated. Honestly at this point I'm torn...

Nicklebon I've tried everything, including trying it on different computers with better specs. It's the isp. Cancelled the service.

purple_monster No worries, bud. At least you speak English and offer real-world tests to help determine things rather than fake numbers that mean absolutely nothing to the end-user (like their tech support hangs onto).

purple_monster Launched steam and was instantly bombarded with updates. One game had a 10gb update and the peak speed I was downloading at was 41MB/s with the average being 32-40MB/s. 41MB/s is essentially 320Mbps. This is all through the use of one wired connection with all wifi devices...

Ended up getting their modem. Maxing out at 300Mbps DL and 150Mbps UP on fast.com. Utterly disgusted with bell right now. I only have one desktop connected to the modem. Using a cat6 cable and have a 1Gbit ethernet card. Set it to 1gb full duplex in device manager. Tried every port, still the...

Yeah this became scary fast. I'm just going to accept my fate and be happy that I can download at 1Gbps... If I even reach that speed that is.

ryan_975 I see.. Well I feel like a fool for paying extra now. Just one question though. How are some users posting speeds of 1.5Gbps on speed tests with the same service?

DonTC Thanks for the heads up. I kinda wish I was a bit more knowledgeable on the networking side of things so all of this stuff wouldn't sound like a foreign language to me. I get the general idea of it all, but yeah.