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"BGA substrate supply issue affecting everyone"? Sounds like something someone would make up. It makes no sense. Subtrate is usually FR4, which is PCB material. You can't run out of PCB material. Like if you do you can just get more within a week. Sounds like BS to me.

However it would be nice for the consumer if AMD had a lead for 3-4 years from now.

So I read the patent paper. https://adwaitjog.github.io/docs/pdf/sharedl1-pact20.pdf (it's a good read) Obviously take all this with a pinch of salt, but this new cache hierarchy yields quite a bit of better VRAM bandwidth efficiency for workloads with high data migration. Basically one of the...

I will be getting the 3900x for $499 if my x370 Gigabyte board is supported. I am on 1800x currently. A 1.3x higher single thread performance and 2x higher multi-threaded perf is a huge upgrade. It's not like I have to upgrade motherboard and RAM. So the price proposition is quite good imo.

Man if that R9 3850 is true.. 16c/32t 5.1Ghz plus 13% IPC uplift compared to Zen+. I am so going to replace my R7 1800x with it. This reminds me of the days when you upgraded the CPU and immediately felt your computer get snappier. We haven't had that since like 2010 or something.

They have actually paid $1 or $1.2B (in damages to AMD).. can't remember the exact figure now. But you can look it up in AMD's 2009 Earning Reports. It's there fair and square. However, it was a drop in a bucket compared to what AMD could have made and could have done reinvesting that money...

There will most likely be a legal action taken as a result of this. But even if they win the case, by the time the case is over the damage will have been done. Look at the example with Intel and AMD. Intel was clearly found in the wrong on multiple continents. But it wasn't until 2009 that they...

gtx780 was my last Nvidia GPU. Currently running a Vega rx64 Liquid Edition. Really happy with the card. I know 1080ti offers more performance for similar money, but I can report that the knowledge of supporting open standards and ethical consumer practices does feel good. Particularly when I...

Oh it poses more of a threat to Nvidia than AMD imo. Without the CPU Nvida could be completely locked out of Intel servers and Intel laptops. We're already seeing this with Kaby Lake G. AMD at least has Ryzen cores to offer competing solutions with. AMD has no marketshare now in datacenter and...

Not sure I think this is good for the consumer. AMD has never generated profit from their discrete GPUs (even when they had a superior product; Evergreen). This might be the last straw to cause them to abandon it entirely and only concentrate on their semi-custom business and APUs with it. Lisa...

Intel and Nvidia never partnered. Nvidia sued Intel so as part of a settlement Intel had to license Nvidia's tech at a tune of $1.5 billion. Payments were being made until last year.

This is a much different class of iGPU from the one in Raven Ridge. Raven Ridge has 10 Vega compute units, while this thing has 24 Polaris CUs. So technically a 140% bigger GPU (Vega is a newer arch but we can ignore that for the most part). Also this product will have HBM2.. while Raven Ridge...

They were hemorrhaging cash like crazy though. Also these consoles are notorious for having razor thin margins. Consoles probably saved them, but only a year and a half ago when their stock hit $1.76 bankruptcy was still on the table. Zen and executing well since then have turned it around. They...

I am an AMD fan because, I like their business ethics better, they embrace open standards and open source and because as a hardware enthusiast they provide a much needed competition to the only one other company in their respective fields they compete in (GPU/Nvidia, CPU/Intel). This is a win...

AMD fans don't care as long as the product sports AMD tech and makes AMD money, while cutting Nvidia out of the market. As for your other points.. Intel approached AMD not the other way around (there is a reason AMD stock is up today).

Kudos Kyle.. you won the internet with this one!

Wrong, Zen core has a wider execution pipeline. It can decode 6 instructions at once while Skylake/KL/CL can only do 4. This is the reason why AMD's SMT has more throughput. AMD's implementation is absolutely more effective.

It mostly seems Windows scheduler related. Perhaps some MS VC++ optimizations can make it in as well down the road. So I don't think those are unrealistic. Ryzen seems to fare very well in Linux, which seems to already have the necessary changes in.

Sorry dude you don't register a market share gain with leftover parts. That's all Polaris.

What are they if not Polaris? It's certainly not Tonga.

Well you don't have to believe me, look at the source lol. The same source you're using. Apparently I can read it properly.

Q3 was up year to year.. lol by 1.5% in the overal GPU market, which is huge:

But Polaris IS the reason why year to year marketshare in Q3 is up lol. Unless you're arguing that in Q3 AMD sold more r9 380s then they sold rx480s. Notebook decrete shipments 23% and 34.7% desktop GPUs is all due to Polaris. Yes AMD did register a sequential markeshare increase prior two...

Nvidia dropped all their Pascal GPUs in Q3 (most when not counting 1080ti and Titan P perhaps, but those don't count when it comes to marketshare) .. of course AMD marketshare might register a dip due to Nvidia loyals upgrade cycles. This is to be expected. The point is Polaris did really well...

I don't follow this argument. Since Polaris wasn't available in Q2 2016 just like it wasn't available in Q3 2015. So the same logic would then apply to your side of the argument as well, no?

Sequentially perhaps, but not year to year.

My initial statement was correct too. Polaris grew AMD GPU marketshare (year to year). Which has more meaning since in case of Q3 and Q4 means they will sell more Polaris than Tonga.

Act silly all you want. But I am just telling you facts. Polaris is going to sell more GPUs than Tonga did in its lifetime as well.

Marketshare went up year to year. Thanks to Polaris. Fact.

Sequentially they were, but GPU market as a whole grew over 20% since Q2.. So it's relative in a grand scheme of things. It's important to look at year-to-year particularly because Q3 and Q4 include back to school and xmas sales. Which is what year to year growth shows. Polaris grew AMD's...

They aren't registering a decrease that's for sure. And the sales have gone up. So it must be growth: From AMD's Q3 2016 report.

If I am comparing Q3 2015 to Q3 2016, year to year growth, the fact that Polaris wasn't available in 2015 only demonstrates my point that Polaris contributed to the market share rise. Since Q3 2016 has AMD having a much larger share than they did in Q3 2015. Unless you're seriously arguing AMD...

Yes you can lol. https://www.thebalance.com/year-over-year-yoy-growth-calculation-definition-3305970 Year to year growth compares the same time period of one year to the next. You can compare Q3 and Q4 of one year to the next, that's called year to year growth. I think Polaris played a part in...

Your train of thought is sequential growth, not mine, lol.

There is sequential growth and year to year growth. I am arguing that Polaris played a role in the year to year growth. Sequential growth can be seasonal and is only one way to look at growth.

Sure the r9 380 and Polaris in Q3 and Q4.

Dude the whole argument is silly beyond belief. AMD grew market share this year. There was no new GPUs in the last 18 months other than Polaris. Of course Polaris is part of it.

As long as AMD has higher numbers than 18% my statement is correct. Polaris did gain market share as opposed to Tonga. Seeing how Polaris is their only product in the last 2 quarters. So yes, let's wait for Q4 results, I am sure they are higher than 18%.

As I said I am comparing this year's market share to last years market share. Feel free if you want to argue quarter to quarter numbers, but that wasn't my point.

I said I am not. I think you just like to argue.