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Not even close. Sandy bridge has lasted so long mostly because of it's groundbreaking performance and OC headroom. Two things the current ryzen chips don't have.

480 isn't worth it unless you can get it for cheaper than a 1060, 1060 crushes the 480 outside of a few AMD sponsored singleplayer games.

It's been obvious for months that Zen would underperform. AMD has an odd habit of only starting the hype machine when they know they won't put out something good.

The only reason to get a 480 over a 1060 is if the 480 is considerably cheaper. The 480 is 10% slower than the 1060 pretty much across the board.

It's the smart decision to make considering how terrible zen will be performance wise - we've known since the AotS leak that Zen will only be on par with sandy bridge at best.

Crossfire introduces too much stutter to be viable in any use case.

There is a huge issue with not using the same suite of games (and not even with the same settings in the games they kept...) in both reviews and then trying to draw conclusions about performance decrease/increase over time. It's comparing apples to oranges.

They're the same cooler, only difference between them is the paint and the branding.

This guy still makes videos? I thought he 'quit' after the disappointment that was the 480 launched?

All it means is that they stopped producing 900 series cards, not that they won't receive support.

The 480 has terrible yields, and the functional ones AMD does get seem to all be wildly variant from the process' specs. Some cards undervolt really well, some are unstable out of the box, and they're all limited to around 1350mhz core clock speed no matter how good the PCB or cooler seems to...

AMD started the entire gimping trend with TressFX in 2013's Tomb Raider as well. AMD loves to play dirty when it suits them, but will call foul as soon as someone gives them a taste of their own medicine.

Refuting your AMD marketing FUD = 'lacking any real knowledge'? LOL. Not even close to a fanboy, I've actually owned more AMD GPUs than NVIDIA GPUs in the last ~15 years. I usually buy whats best based on value. In fact, my current system even has an AMD GPU. But that doesn't mean I won't call...

It's already been two years and the 970 is still beating AMD's newest GPUs.

A 970 clocked to 1500-1550mhz boost is on the same level as a stock 980 or 390x. What exactly makes you think it's going to fall off outside of the usual AMD FUD?

Beating a reference 970 by 5% is meaningless. A 970 can gain 30-40% more performance from it's reference clocks with an OC. The fact that the 480 is only equivalent perf/watt of GM204 despite the die being 100mm^2 smaller and on a newer process is just proof that AMD has designed a dud...

It's pretty much impossible for AMD to get it out the door by q2 considering arctic islands only taped out last month. It will be q4 at the earliest.

There's simply no place for it. The 970 is superior in every way, even performing on par with a 390x once OCed, and already fills it's price point ($250 and less when you shop around for deals like evga b-stock)

You can stream/record without any performance loss on any intel CPU since sandy bridge, even pentiums and i3's.

I am being objective. The fury x can't be OCed significantly and the 980ti can OC a lot without any change in voltage. It completely smokes the fury x no matter which way you cut it.

second fastest doesn't mean 'just as good'. the fury x is roughly ~30% slower than a 980ti. no point buying it until the price is viable for what it offers.

No. One of HSA's goals is to unify memory between cpu/gpu (so that no copying has to occur to run GPU accelerated operations), a unified address space is a shitty half-baked solution that came to be because the technology for interconnected cpu/gpu/memory only became viable recently with HBM and...

AMD knowingly partnered with a company that was infringing Asetek's patents, they are definitely in the wrong here.

It's neither. HSA is essentially useless (and will be for some time, probably at least 5 years) without large amounts of memory on/near the die(s).

AMD has only released 2 driver updates this year.

devs don't have to do any work for multigpu support in dx11/opengl, it's handled entirely by the driver. there's no api or extension exposed for it.

No, they haven't been releasing driver updates regularly at all.

Anything multigpu from AMD would be a mistake, AMD themselves are only releasing 2-3 driver updates per year now, so the majority of games will not be able to utilize both GPUs.

I doubt it. AMD themselves stated zen itself was only going to be paper launched in q4 and that they don't expect actual revenue from it until q1 2017 at the earliest.

what makes you say that? it's very likely that they will be compatible, kaby lake is going to be a refresh just like devil's canyon was.

actually, hawaii chips die at staggeringly high rates. most likely because of the terrible heat issues even with a decent cooler, i can't imagine what would happen when a fan fails on one.

The 970 is undisputably the superior option performance and price wise. You can find them for less than a 390 and they'll perform on the level of a stock 980 (superior to the 390 and 390x) once OCed.

Not surprised to see AMD lowering the price of the 390, the 970 easily outperforms it and was already priced lower than it.

They very clearly abandoned them after GCN 1.0 and the 7000 series came, those cards never received any optimizations after the fact and were only left with token support because of how bad it would've been for PR to drop support only ~18 months after the cards had been released.

Where are people getting the impression that the 970 and 390 even compete with each other? It's been well documented that the majority of 970s can OC to the point where they perform on par with 390x's and 980's, all while being $100 cheaper than a 390 and $200 cheaper than a 390x.. The 390 is...

was playing earlier and the console was available just fine, like every other bethesda game has since morrowind even worse is that it routinely slips below 60 fps

Having priority access to HBM is meaningless in the context (AMD doesn't have priority access btw, nvidia has complete shut them out of hbm2 supply and will be the only company pushing our hbm2 gpus in 2016). The problem here is that AMD's chip design has finished months after nvidia's has, they...

That's not true, but yeah, the current whining from the AMD crowd seems like sour grapes because they've been stuck with outdated rebrands.

there's no way AMD will beat NVIDIA to market in 2016, arctic islands is only just rumored to tape out now while pascal taped out 6 months ago. AMD is fucked in 2016, they'll be lucky to be out in a year, let alone next summer.

it's not a gameworks game