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    AMD Launches EPYC Enterprise CPUs Available Today @ [H]

    It's a nice board, but probably restricted to half length cards for all the PCI-E slots up against DIMM sockets (at least three of the x16 slots). Full length cards would hit the DIMMs.
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    AMD Launches EPYC Enterprise CPUs Available Today @ [H]

    I'll bet that they're privately far more worried than their statement indicates. At least having Intel always looking over their shoulder will make them think twice before doing questionable things and may serve to contain the rapid acceleration of their Xeon prices of late. The rumored price...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    The only benches that Skylake-X loses to Broadwell-E are those that favor large amounts of L3 cache...at least that's how it appeared to me in the reviews. X299 has it merits, but is hamstrung by excessive segmentation. Intel would be better off combining the features of Skylake-W and X and...
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    Why 4 16x slots on new X299 and X399 boards?

    NVMe drives drink PCI-E lanes like water...you can never have too many lanes...;)
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Do you think that increased competition and competitive products manifest themselves in financial results overnight? AMD stock price is up a huge percentage since last year. EPYC just launched TODAY!! Only a moron whose IQ is equal to their shoe size would say that AMD and their new products...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    You'd better lay off the sauce...or at least have the decency to share...whatever you're on is clearly the good stuff...;)
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    And in 2015, the words "competitive AMD" likely elicited a great deal of snickers and laughter from the marketing teams at Intel. Quite a bit less so today, I imagine...;)
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    I think most of what X299 is was finalized long before Threadripper was a known entity. Now that Threadripper is something tangible, Intel has a real task to modify it to compete.
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    A LOL what if... X299 and 7740k

    Given the degree of improvement in how much the i7-7740X overclocks vs the i7-7700K, it makes me wonder how much better the i9-7900X would overclock on the LGA3647 socket if there was an enthusiast version of it. LGA3647+i9-7900X+Solder=probably a very impressive overclock...;)
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    If Intel produces a compelling, feature-rich product that meets my needs better, then I'll go that route, but one system I build in the near future will probably be a Threadripper unless there is a good reason not to. I'll have to consult the obligatory reviews and benchmarks before purchase...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    No, no, no...Shintai says that solder isn't needed....lol.
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Yeah, that 4.8GHz is an easy-peasy overclock that is running at safe 24/7 voltages. So sayeth Shintai...:rolleyes:
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    I've decided to purchase exactly nothing to date...I don't base my purchasing decisions on rumor, conjecture or bullshit fanboy innuendo. I wait until the reviews are ALL out and I read them all to get the best picture on all the products that I can. That's called making an objective decision...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    It has everything to do with that. Of course, it would require that you open your eyes, remove your Intel colored fanboy glasses, and set down the drumsticks that you've nearly worn out beating your Intel drum. Objectivity is impossible for you and your trio of loyal compadres, isn't it?
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Those results must be wrong...Shintai has assured us that there is only a 4% benefit to using solder...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    I'll bet he was running Adaptive voltage, which just may be the case if everything was left to Auto. He sure isn't running default voltage. I've been complaining about temps at lower voltages?? I'm going to have to have to get you to prove that statement...show me when and where I've said that.
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Wow, and only 1.500V too...:rolleyes:
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Some people are incredibly frugal with some things and not at all with others...;)
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    Intel Xeon Gold & Xeon Platinum (Skylake-SP) Lineup Leaked

    I agree. Progress on the mobile front has been much better than that experienced by desktops due to a different set of metrics. Laptops value battery life and simplification, with as strong of an IGP as possible and each of these metrics has seen considerable improvement. The only segment...
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    Intel Xeon Gold & Xeon Platinum (Skylake-SP) Lineup Leaked

    I'm not talking about ECC and it wasn't even on my mind. But since you brought up the topic, answer the following question. How much should an HEDT CPU cost before it's "worthy" of ECC support?? Now since we are now past the unfortunate and unplanned diversion that you for whatever reason...
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    Intel Xeon Gold & Xeon Platinum (Skylake-SP) Lineup Leaked

    Peolle who are saying that CPU progression has stagnated are usually referring to the consumer processors and for good reason. I feel so good for you that Intel is diligently meeting your needs and aggressively innovating to make the products that you use (in the datacenter) better. They...
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    How many PCI-E lanes do you need?

    The unimaginable and unconscionable horror of using Enterprise-grade (gasp) hardware in a....gaming machine! (double gasp). It's an egregious and blatant violation of the Intel computing morality statute which clearly states that "Enterprise hardware shall not be used in a Consumer system."...;)
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    How many PCI-E lanes do you need?

    I need more, more and more PCI-E lanes...can never have enough lanes...;) It's always a compromise in determining what I have to do without in the system at the expense of something else. My PCI-E SSDs are sucking back the lion's share of lanes right now, so I have to live with only one video...
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    Asus X399 Zenith Extreme

    I bet those pins were bent on purpose in order to prevent the board from following someone home...;)
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    Intel Xeon Gold & Xeon Platinum (Skylake-SP) Lineup Leaked

    I really want to know what the M models are and what's different with them. Not some guess or opinion but a provable explanation. Took a look at the Cinebench results from both the 8173M and the 8176 and the 8173M beats it in spite of lower base and turbo clocks.
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    One result doesn't make it gospel and even if consistent with all the chips I'd think that that 4% is a 4% that Intel would rather take and use rather than leave on the table, In any event, it's doubtful that Intel is willing to concede anything to AMD regarding the chips in this upper market...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    From what I heard, the NDA lifts on June 12...;)
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    The comment was made largely in jest, but the 18-core die likely has a big enough size that it could very likely get away without the IHS entirely. At the end of the day, I could give a rat's posterior about the 10-core...I'm waiting for both Threadripper and the HCC Core i9s to...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    They'd be better off shipping the CPUs and the IHS separately in the box and allowing you to choose your desired TIM during installation.
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    And as for sockets, Intel's use of the inferior Socket 2066 (as opposed to the Socket 3647 that they could've used) clearly shows a desire to deny consumers HCC chips for another product cycle and keep things as they were, again demanding top dollar from consumers while providing what very...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Anything that AMD did or any arrogance they may have had pales greatly in comparison to the crap that Intel has pulled over the years. What is the point? Epyc is unlaunched. Threadripper is unlaunched. You are jumping to the conclusion that AMD wants to milk users without knowing a damn...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    I'm not saying any company is evil, but Intel has been firmly in front for 10 years (largely due to missteps by AMD). This has created an Intel that is exceptionally arrogant and much less responsive in dealing with the needs of the market, as they haven't had to for a quite a while. The...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Then kindly enlighten us as to the real reason behind the holes in Intel's IHS, from Sandy Bridge-EP to Broadwell-EP. Decoration?
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    But all soldered CPUs need to have a way to equalize pressure under the IHS during manufacture. Period. Either a hole, or a gap in the epoxy.
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    A gap in the epoxy has been shown to be enough of a relief to equalize the pressure (Socket 1366). Just because a gap exists doesn't mean is was intended to have solder, it just means solder could have been used if desired. If no gap in the epoxy exists and no hole exists, solder cannot be used!!
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    How so? What I've said is that all CPUs that use solder either have holes in the IHS or some other way to relieve pressure from under the IHS during manufacture. Basically, holes or a gap in the epoxy. Shintai has shown that TIM can be used in place of solder under an IHS with holes...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Here is Ryzen delidded. See AGAIN the gap in the epoxy to relieve pressure during manufacturing.
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    See the pic? See the gap in the epoxy and IHS to equalize pressure? This is why the 1366 chips and 2600k chips have no hole. Intel being an evil company? I never said anything of the sort. They're not inherently evil, but being in front for ten years have made them exceptionally and...
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    The production chips may have or may have not been soldered, but the holes in the IHS clearly shows that they were originally intended to be soldered. Intel, as per usual, probably decided to cheap out...which they have a penchant for doing often;)
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    Skylake-X (Core i9) - Lineup, Specifications and Reviews!

    Uh, don't you think that a chip that was intended to have been soldered could have TIM applied using the same IHS? Or would you prefer to scrap 1000s of IHS and reorder without the hole? But for Intel to solder without a hole (or another way to relieve pressure) would potentially be bad.
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