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    Dell U2410

    Install the driver (Windows Vista/Seven can do it automatically from Windows Update), set your display to Standard mode when you use a softwares which supports color management and set your display to sRGB when the software doesn't have a CMS modul (or that is worse than "no correction", like...
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    LG and Dell team up using IPS to 'conquer global LCD market.'

    Dell should start it with releasing a software which re-calibrates the internal LUTs in their UltraSharp displays, like the U2410 and U2711. :D
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    Dell U2410

    Yes, I have panel contamination too. This unit was the third replacement in a line and it was almost perfect otherwise (homogeneous, nicely calibrated without any banding while has a high contrast ratio, etc), so I accepted it. And I was able to "knock it down" by hitting the panel directly...
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    ASUS PA246Q: 24-inch, 1920x1200, IPS

    Wow, I just "read" the PA246Q review on prad.de but my german is as week as the google tranlate (no english version is avalable on prad.de yet), so I am not really sure if I got it right: Is it possible to run the panel at 24Hz? (I mean real 24Hz, not like the U2410 which receives 24Hz but...
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    120hz IPS Panels on the way from LG

    True 120Hz IPS with better uniformity and contrast ratio? Is my next display on it's way to my desk? :) I would gladly pay ~1000$ for a display with 1920x1200@120Hz@10-bit IPS panel which is more homogeneous and has a better contrast ratio than current p/H/e-IPS panels. (If it has at least as...
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    New models replacing Dell U2410 / 2311H & HP ZR24w?

    Just as I thought, it was too nice to be true.... Today I visited a guy with my ColorMunki (+ArgyllCMS and various test patterns on a USB stick) because we agreed that I will calibrate his PC display for free if he let me play with his TX-P50G20E (which will be also calibrated as a "side...
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    New models replacing Dell U2410 / 2311H & HP ZR24w?

    @Whoisthisreally The IPS23xV series seem to use White, Edge LEDs. I want perfect Rec709/sRGB gamut (~100% coverage) or wider (but with hardware emulation sRGB mode then - for games because I can't do software CMS with games...) but not narrower. @tangoseal Yah, on paper... sure... But I...
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    New models replacing Dell U2410 / 2311H & HP ZR24w?

    Good question. I am seriously considering to replace my U2410 with a TX-P42G20E because I can't stand any TN, I hate the response time of c-PVA (and it should be combined with dithering, but it's really annoying how dark tones look during motion when you combine dithering with slow response)...
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    Dell U2410

    Thanks. My A02 reports M1f193, so it looks it's different. Why Dell denies the existence of a new firmware? Or why did they change both the hardware Rev and the firmware version if nothing changed? Uhumm... or NOT. Except if you use it with ArgyllCMS and a custom correction matrix. The...
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    Dell U2410

    @ lancelot48 It means that somebody with an A04/05 labeled hardware should check the firmware version. Could somebody do it, please?
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    Difference between using hdmi vs. display port?

    Some quick questions: - Is HDMI 1.3 capable to carry 1920x1200@60Hz@36bit (I mean 12 bit/color)? I am just wondering because the HDMI port's EDID on my display says it supports 12 bit/color. But I don't know if it really used or not (it's always "unknown"), so I use the DP connection which...
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    Dell U2711

    One of my friends told me that the U2711 is not fixed to 60Hz. (My current U2410 is unfortunately locked to 60Hz internally.) It would open a way to set either 48 or even 72Hz and watch Blu-Ray videos without judder (and 72Hz would be also good for PC games) as this is possible with the U2311H...
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    A new NEC professional IPS? PA series

    Interesting in both ways: - My previous display was a l220x, my current display is an U2410, and I planned to upgrade to a PA241W as a Christmas present for myself. :) So, I would ask: How does it feel? Was this upgrade nearly as big as the l220x-->U2410? Is it better or at least equal in...
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    A new NEC professional IPS? PA series

    Did anybody try to use a PA241w in 1920x1200@72Hz or 1920x1080@72Hz displays modes? There is a strange paragraph on the official product page: //// Rapid Response Provides for uninterrupted display of full motion video with response times as quick as 4ms. It delivers streaming video...
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    Going to IPS from TN, is the difference that great ?

    How much could be the difference between [the worst which they "dare to"sell] and [the best you can find] these days? What do you think? (Let's forget about the high-end plasma HDTVs and high-end HD projectors. They cost much more than a high-end PC monitor.) Of course, there are bad IPS panels...
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    Anyone have a list of common "color managed" (IE., wide gamut-OK) apps?

    A little update suggestion: MPC-HC (latest SVN builds) implemented lcms2, so it can use any ICC profile to correct the colors (v2 or v4, matrix or cLUT - but I didn't really tested if it uses the cLUT or the matrix only ; as any cLUT profile should contain the legacy matrix as well, it's not...
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    Dell U2410

    Since I couldn't find any usable informations in this topic, I want to inform you that: Yes, the U2410 can actually work in 10 bit/color display mode! I tested it with a FirePro V5700 and PhotoShop CS5. I could enable the "10-bit pixel format support" in the Workstation section of the CCC...
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    Dell U2410

    I think: - The only difference is the firmware. - You will get a refurbished hardware (like an upgraded A00 which was sent back for whatever reason earlier.) - I think they changed something after the first release but this is not revision related. (New ones may have slightly lower contrast...
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    Dell U2410

    I would suggest you to use the sRGB mode for softwares which don't support proper CMS (and you are not absolutely sure about that you need wider gamut, like the AdobeRGB). The only properly CMS supported browser is firefox 3.0.x, ~ video renderer is MadVR (with external yCMS 3DLUTs), and may be...
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    Dell U2410

    No, there is no sensor. Some preset modes will activate the digital contrast ratio (content based back-light control), and it can be activated anywhere from the factory OSD, and you can (always?) disable it from the user OSD. Which display mode do you use? Of course, it is your choice, but...
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    Dell U2410 display going black briefly?

    I saw this sometimes (may be three time in a month) since I use a U2410 A02 with a HDMI cable. I didn't notice it with A01 and A02 + DP cable. (The HDMI cable itself is an expensive HAMA HQ stuff.) But I also updated my drivers, so I am waiting with the judge. And it is very rare, so I can...
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    What's happening with DVI/DP/HDMI displays and HD5 VGAs?

    My calibration skills and tools improved a lot while I tried to set my up my new display. So, I decided to re-calibrate my old display (it waits for his new owner) with my new knowledge to make a real comparison between them (and to improve it in case somebody would test and buy...). The old...
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    Dell U2410

    So, you have a refurbished shrinkage. The A02 firmware is much younger than your hardware, so it is a refurbished hardware. And every preset works on my U2410, so this is not a common problem. Don't worry, I came through three of them and I am still not perfectly satisfied yet. By the way...
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    Dell U2410

    Thanks. It is very interesting. (And a little weird as well. It may mess with some of my theories, but may be not...) May be they used the VESA standard (or other common DDC methods, like the one used by NEC) to access the LUT. If it works with DDC, I think it may communicates directly with...
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    Dell U2410

    Well, there are some explanations: - DVI is also capable to transfer 10 bit/color. It is a nonstandard but existing behavior and it works with some 10 bit devices. - You can load the usual 8 bit RGB materials into the 8 bit RGB framebuffer but you are unable to do any changes without harm...
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    Dell U2410

    Well. The higher bit depth output from the VGA LUT will help with the calibration. In most cases, you won't need 10 bit framebuffering to reproduce 8 bit source materials. But those frames will go through the VGA LUT where the higher bitdepth output works well (I am sure about the 10+ bit, it is...
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    Dell U2410

    Well, I bought another HDMI cable (it is an expensive HAMA High Speed certified cable, the other was an OEM gold plated one). There is picture on the screen now. But the xvMode is a joke! There is no banding (the only video mode without out-of-box banding problems) but it produces heavy color...
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    Dell U3011 coming soon.

    Don't be too naive. This can be good and bad as well. Most of my current problems with my U2410 (A02) caused by the weird factory settings and the lack of the "native" mode. It would be much better if they let us to overwrite those factory LUTs. The game mode is the worst preset. It has...
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    Dell U3011 coming soon.

    Delete. The browser sent it twice. Sorry
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    Dell U2410

    The sh#tstorm over my U2410 is swirling again... I bought a HDMI cable. (It is an "OEM" part but the pins and the "chassis" are gold plated and it is theoretically a High Quality cable.) The display cannot show any image with it! I tried to use it with my desktop PC first (HD5850 with native...
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    Dell U2410

    Take a look at this post: #2562 I am sorry if my english knowledge would retain your interpretation. But this was my conclusion before Sailor_Moon let me know that xvMode can be used with RGB signal as well. So, I will get a HDMI cable on monday, test the xvMode and report my results...
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    Dell U2410

    Yes. I think they made the sRGB emulation 3DLUT with 255-255-255 values. (And they lowered them later, for whatever reason...) The calibration curves are not too bad either. There is some contrast degradation after it is calibrated to pure power gamma 2.2 tonal response but it is still good...
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    Dell U2410

    This is interesting: - The HDMI 1.3 standard says that DeepColor requires at least 12 bit/color support (16 bit is optional). - U2410's specification says that it supports DeepColor. - The STDP60xx documentation mentions 12 bit/color (but in context with YCC, so it is unclear for RGB) So, I...
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    Dell U2410

    The used internal LUT in the display hardware will be chosen by the selected preset mode. The VGA LUT won't follow the OSD changes. Your calibration software will create a VGA LUT for the given preset which you used during the calibration. It won't be usable for any other preset. You should...
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    Dell U2410

    Hardware settings: RGB values at 255-255-255 (in the service menu), contrast 50, brightness 10 Standard mode measures: Black = XYZ 0.14 0.14 0.24 Red = XYZ 72.67 32.74 1.07 Green = XYZ 26.33 90.19 12.84 Blue = XYZ 24.49 9.02 128.79 White = XYZ 122.84 131.22 141.99...
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    Dell U2410

    Here is my last calibration result for the sRGB preset. I achieved it with RGB Gains at 255-255-255 in the service menu, 10 bit DP connection, and "absolute" gamma scaling in Dispcal. The calibration itself took ~23 minutes and the profiling took another ~15 minutes (but you can choose much...
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    Dell U2410

    As I know (and I played a lot with OSD settings and calibration softwares): sRGB and AdobeRGB presets has the corresponding gamut (emulated by hardware) and they have a reasonable native tonal response (around the ~2.1 pure-power curve). I guess they use 3DLUTs but I am not sure about that...
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    Dell U2410

    Wazooty, I want to suggest you to change one of these options: - Pay the tip (<35$) for a suitable seller but check it by yourself and test it very carefully (I suggest you to take some measures with a WCG capable instrument too, if it is possible). - When the first option is not possible...
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    Dell U2410

    I found an interesting line in the document which I linked above. Deep color and wide gamut support: 12-bit HDMI input at YCC 4:4:4 Does it mean that U2410 is able to receive 12 bit/color signal through HDMI connection? It mentions YCC here and I am interested in the RGB format. DP...
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    Dell U2410

    I think I found the controller chipset which is used by this display: PDF Data Brief These features looks familiar, isn't they? Does somebody know about a display which uses the same controller and the manufacturer let it to be hardware-calibrated?
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