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From laziness to narcissistic, quoting myself, but am surprised that I still haven't been able to find this. Almost exclusively reviews on Z370 boards with i7 8700Ks... one 8086K and the odd X299 platform. No AM4 love? Guessing its going to be a case of waiting on gaming benchmarks for the i7...

Hopefully more about searching having been frustrating on a mobile phone rather than laziness, but... Has anyone come across any apples-to-apples benchmarks in these reviews that have 2080 Ti numbers using both Coffee Lake and Ryzen CPUs?

Would 3200 14-14-14-34 be worth it over 3200 16-16-16-36? I've seen kits with both specs that are listed as running at the stated speeds in the QVL for the B450 boards I am looking at, but the CL14 has a A$70 price premium.

"Proper" memory being the kicker locally, and taking 16gb of DDR4 from $250 for an Intel system to $340 for an AMD system here. Definitely appreciate their review, but taking away that frequency advantage, with the extra core and thread count its still pulling up on par with the supposedly...

To again be too gaming-centric, are there any indications or logic to the idea that Zen 2 would see latency improvements to the Mesh interconnect, assuming Ring Bus latency is where Intel is getting an advantage in gaming? While admittedly on much older hardware than the OP, I had all but...

Given the speculation that the 9700K will see an increase to 8 physical cores and the loss of hyper threading, and the comparisons that were originally drawn between the 7700K and the 8600K, I was curious if there are actually use cases where sacrificing a few physical cores for more than a few...

So based on your attachment, if Skylake-X is selling really well at 1%, then Threadripper is also selling really well in your opinion? I don't understand what you mean by pro-AMD store, or pro-AMD country. What are you basing this on? A store that sells both brands, yet... markets AMD more...

Any chance that the 9000 series CPUs will just be the 8000 series with the hardware fixes for Spectre and Meltdown Intel promised by year's end? Cannot help but feel a 9700K is going to open a wound for anyone that splashed out for a 8086K, and then pour salt in it given in theory its going to...

I'm not sure I understand the argument there, so more Devil's Advocacy. How is paying extra for a better binned 8700K marked as a 8086K, that much different from paying extra for a better binned 2700 marked as a 2700X? Or any more or less a for profit company, acting and reacting as a for...

Appreciate what you're saying here, but am curious if said 8 core desktop CPUs featured on the charts linked one post earlier? To play Devil's Advocate (for Intel today... AMD tomorrow), I hope its not too contentious to say that while the i7s may not the best bang-for-buck, they take the...

A little bit of thread-necromancy, but quote for truth. Hardware Unboxed: Does Ryzen Require X470 for DDR4 Overclocking/Tuning? X470 vs. B350 vs. A320 Tweaked memory results didn't seem quite as impressive as last time around, but maybe that's due to the 2600 getting some additional uplift...

Or could this be part of the reason they have flagged it as a "limited edition"? This is one of the things that has me wary about upgrading to Intel right now - what their product lineup is going to look like in the next 12-18 months, and not wanting to end up feeling like how I imagine someone...

Thanks for that, will have to go back over the B350 options. Even taking into account the lack of overclocking on a 8700 non-K, the difference in price between a B360 and Z370 here doesn't seem to be equivalent to the savings between a B350 and X470. I suppose my concerns there were around how...

I was really looking forward to the Hardware Unboxed Ryzen 5 2600 vs. Core i5-8400, 36 Game Benchmark Battle video given my P55 motherboard is showing signs its about to take the choice of whether to continue the perpetual wait for the next generation or not out of my hands, and wanting to...

Not sure if anyone has posted this or the Hardware Unboxed video, but I found this interesting. TECHSPOT 4GHz CPU Battle: AMD 2nd-Gen Ryzen vs. Intel 8th-Gen Core - Instructions Per Cycle Shootout

Alas, gaming wise still a little wary. The charts and benchmarks being posted for gaming do look promising at face value, and it genuinely does look like AMD has addressed things that were covered during and may have hindered the original Ryzen launch. Credit to AMD there (and thanks to those...

While unlikely to have the airflow of a complete mesh fronted case, this is the one that caught my eye when looking for a budget case... and gets high praise in reviews: Phanteks Eclipse P300 I didn't have a lot of luck finding in depth reviews of this one (at least not the X variant) but the...

I'd assumed that attachment was the latency others had been referring to, and I'd assumed that it was improvements due to the new process or AMD addressing hardware issues early adopters identified first go around. With the percentages seemingly not aligning with the clock increases (or each...

As in benchmarks from a reputable source (i.e. the [H] review) as opposed to AMD marketing material or press conferences. Where I can see the caveats... what the 12 games are and at what settings, what the numbers on those charts are, what the other components in the test system are and set to...

If this turns out to be true for the games I play (and have been waiting on an upgrade to play), I'll probably be on board. Though forgive me if I wait for that to be "according to [something other than AMD marketing material or random Youtuber], Ryzen 7 2700X has gaming performance that is...

Thanks DoubleTap, will do some reading on the U7's for comparison, the AE being cheaper than both here. Admittedly ashmelev75, it was many years ago that I bought the DX, as it has been for the bulk of the components in the computer its currently installed in. I want to say 7 years? And while...

Not having a lot of luck finding a decent review of this one... https://www.asus.com/au/Sound-Cards/Xonar-AE Currently have a Xonar DX that is either slowly dying out on me, or whose drivers really aren't playing nice with Windows 10 and its latest patches and this seems like the logical...

I really like the design of this case. Tempted to pick it up when its available. Had been thinking of picking up a Fractal Design Meshify C for when I bite the bullet and build a new system, but I'm not sure I'm quite ready to part with my optical drive. The R6 seems to be well liked going by...

Here's the issue there as I see it. If AMD has a core and thread count advantage at the consumer level with Ryzen, and Intel has the IPC and frequency advantage at the consumer level with Kaby Lake.. What advantage AMD may be able claim in games that benefit from the higher core/thread count...

Curious about this as well trentchau. Have a Xonar DX slowly giving up on me, and was looking at my options for replacing it. AE-5 doesn't appear to have availability here in Australia yet, but was wonder if it was worth waiting on, or just going out and getting a Sound Blaster Z or another...

I think there are examples of AMD cards performing worse on Ryzen than nVidia cards in DX11 titles compared to Intel, but picking out a couple of benchmarks from many isn't my point... otherwise I may as well cite Rocket League as AMD killing it on DX9!!11!!1 (To stress for me) I just don't see...

I'm sure there are still further optimizations coming for a number of games, and am curious despite being cynical about the number of developers that will either spend the time and money doing so on titles already released or well into development. However, I don't think nVidia's drivers are...

Thanks for the review and sorry for the blindly game-and-upgreade-centered rant to follow.* Being short on time when they were released, glancing at the conclusions from the various reviews felt I was finally going to pull the trigger on an upgrade using a 1600X... but going back over the...

Definitely more than worth a roll of the dice, for someone I know Stateside. Thanks for the chance.

Interesting video, both in context of the OP video and as the benchmarks have a Ryzen 7 1700X and an Intel Sandy Bridge i5 2500K in the one chart.

Can't help escape the feeling that some of the more irrational debate stems from people on both "sides" unconsciously justifying their purchase, where their money has ended up... or at least more impassioned because of it... especially when I think there are concessions to be made on both rather...

For me personally, Ryzen is a great CPU... for the price if you need the extra cores... but... for gaming, I still cannot help but a little feel disappointed. Not in AMD, rather where it leaves me. I was really looking forward to NDA lifting, thinking that once the results where out I would...

To continue being cynical / contrarian / a bastard... Positive leaks, "MOAR! GIMME!" Negative leaks, "OMG! EMBARGO!" NDA can't lift soon enough. Can't remember the last hardware release that had me this eager to read the reviews.

Mentioned cost being a very big factor, and core count, and again if the performance being claimed is actually there when being independently benchmarked and at those price points I'll be thrilled, it will likely be my upgrade path. I am very curious to gleam some of the reasoning behind those...

To play a sarcastic, Devil's advocate... Intel : "What's this?! The independent benchmarks for these Kabylate processors only show marginal performance improvements from where we were CPU wise last year! To hell with that, no sale!" AMD : "What's this?! I haven't seen independent benchmarks...

Eager to read the reviews when they're out, but I am curious as to what went into the decision to have effectively simultaneous NDA and launch dates. Not so much paranoia as would have liked to have been a fly on the wall for that meeting. For video game analogies, I think there is a negative...

If this is the case, given anecdotally Intel hasn't had a lot of luck convincing people with overclocked 2600K's to upgrade to their latest and greatest, what's going to be the draw here to get those people to move away from their 5-6 year old processors, let alone those released since then? I...

For the sake of full disclosure, am currently using an nVidia graphics card in the PC I game on and while I typically alternate between nVidia and AMD based on who has the best bang for buck at the time / which company most recently gave me a less than ideal experience, can't help but feel its a...

Arranging these by year of release (2011-2017?) rather than brand I found to be a bit telling of both each company and the market. Not being very familiar with a lot of benchmarks how wrong would it be try to scale this one on clock speed? i.e. where ever that Zen figure has been taken from...